If your pet needed a $20,000 surgery in order to survive...

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Why would you care how I'd feel. What would it have to do with any of us? Are you playing some kind of sick game and you get off on it? Why anyone would shoot a dog over 150 bucks is beyond me. But yeah, I wouldn't fly to your house to execute you right then, but I certainly would kill you eventually. Who would expect some guy from Alabama to car-bomb some guy from KC? 😛

I'm just seeing if the ole ATOT mindset is still the same. Bitch about everything that doesnt agree with your (Your being whoever the poster may be) mindset and beliefs, but do not a damned thing to change it.
Point being, this poor sick dog. No one wants him shot, they wont pay for him to have the surgery and wont come give him a good home. Well gee, you dont want him put down but by the same token wont do ANYTHING to prevent it other then say the guy whos pulling the trigger is an old dirty bastard. Makes sense to me.

I thought you were from Canada?? 😕

Canada? Eh, no. Anyway, I'm not really that sure of the point you are getting at. Are you making an attempt at saying that people talk a lot of sh!t online, but then never want to follow through and help someone? Personally, I've taken animals to the vet before when they were hurt and paid the bill. I can't say any animal dying(minus any type of spider, or something that is trying to kill me) makes me feel like a million bucks. I eat meat, hate PETA, and all that jazz, but I can see why people want to own domesticated pets, feed them, etc, and then have them put down over a vet bill. I could afford a 20k vet bill so possibly that tempers my perspective, but still I can't see shooting a dog in the head over 150 bucks. I don't like to see any innocent suffer.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Why would you care how I'd feel. What would it have to do with any of us? Are you playing some kind of sick game and you get off on it? Why anyone would shoot a dog over 150 bucks is beyond me. But yeah, I wouldn't fly to your house to execute you right then, but I certainly would kill you eventually. Who would expect some guy from Alabama to car-bomb some guy from KC? 😛

I'm just seeing if the ole ATOT mindset is still the same. Bitch about everything that doesnt agree with your (Your being whoever the poster may be) mindset and beliefs, but do not a damned thing to change it.
Point being, this poor sick dog. No one wants him shot, they wont pay for him to have the surgery and wont come give him a good home. Well gee, you dont want him put down but by the same token wont do ANYTHING to prevent it other then say the guy whos pulling the trigger is an old dirty bastard. Makes sense to me.

I thought you were from Canada?? 😕

They won't pay for his surgery because they don't know him. How many people give a bum money on the street? Not that many. Probably 1 out of 100 people. They don't know his plight. Likewise, strangers have no memories with an old dog, he's just a dog. On the other hand, he's YOUR dog, and you should care about him, you heartless bastard.

This is very true, but like a previous poster pointed out -- people on AT and other boards have taken up money for a sick pet before.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Mill

Canada? Eh, no. Anyway, I'm not really that sure of the point you are getting at. Are you making an attempt at saying that people talk a lot of sh!t online, but then never want to follow through and help someone? Personally, I've taken animals to the vet before when they were hurt and paid the bill. I can't say any animal dying(minus any type of spider, or something that is trying to kill me) makes me feel like a million bucks. I eat meat, hate PETA, and all that jazz, but I can see why people want to own domesticated pets, feed them, etc, and then have them put down over a vet bill. I could afford a 20k vet bill so possibly that tempers my perspective, but still I can't see shooting a dog in the head over 150 bucks. I don't like to see any innocent suffer.

Something along those lines. People just come on here and spout off there moral beliefs and critizie others, but in a real life situation they wouldnt do anything more then bang away at the keyboard. If someone stepped up and actually said "Hey, if someone wants a sick dog which could recover but I dont want to pay so I'm going to shoot him" you'd have 500 posts about how cruel the guy is, 30 saying they want pics and 3 saying EAT THE DOG!
But NO ONE, not ONE DAMNED PERSON would say Hey, lemme Paypal you the money, dont kill the poor innocent creature. Not ONE would say Hey, I'll come take him off your hands this weekend.
Kinda makes ones beliefs a bit hollow when the farthest they go in supporting them is typing eh?

Aside from that, a bullet in the head really shouldnt be considered "suffering". If I did shoot a dog I sure would gut shot it, a quick back of the head shot puts them down for all practical purposes instantly

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Why would you care how I'd feel. What would it have to do with any of us? Are you playing some kind of sick game and you get off on it? Why anyone would shoot a dog over 150 bucks is beyond me. But yeah, I wouldn't fly to your house to execute you right then, but I certainly would kill you eventually. Who would expect some guy from Alabama to car-bomb some guy from KC? 😛

I'm just seeing if the ole ATOT mindset is still the same. Bitch about everything that doesnt agree with your (Your being whoever the poster may be) mindset and beliefs, but do not a damned thing to change it.
Point being, this poor sick dog. No one wants him shot, they wont pay for him to have the surgery and wont come give him a good home. Well gee, you dont want him put down but by the same token wont do ANYTHING to prevent it other then say the guy whos pulling the trigger is an old dirty bastard. Makes sense to me.

I thought you were from Canada?? 😕

They won't pay for his surgery because they don't know him. How many people give a bum money on the street? Not that many. Probably 1 out of 100 people. They don't know his plight. Likewise, strangers have no memories with an old dog, he's just a dog. On the other hand, he's YOUR dog, and you should care about him, you heartless bastard.

This is very true, but like a previous poster pointed out -- people on AT and other boards have taken up money for a sick pet before.

I'd bet that the ratio of people donating compared to ATOT members was roughly about the same as the begging bum ratio though. Maybe a little higher, since I do feel caring for some of the other ATOTers, and would help them if I could. That would be because I knew them, and had memories of them, not their pet.

About the 20k vetbill, I definitely wouldn't WANT to afford that. After his $2000 weiner problem, my kitty has health insurance. 😀 It's cheap as dirt really, and if you ever get stuck with a $2000 vetbill, it pays for itself many times over.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Why would you care how I'd feel. What would it have to do with any of us? Are you playing some kind of sick game and you get off on it? Why anyone would shoot a dog over 150 bucks is beyond me. But yeah, I wouldn't fly to your house to execute you right then, but I certainly would kill you eventually. Who would expect some guy from Alabama to car-bomb some guy from KC? 😛

I'm just seeing if the ole ATOT mindset is still the same. Bitch about everything that doesnt agree with your (Your being whoever the poster may be) mindset and beliefs, but do not a damned thing to change it.
Point being, this poor sick dog. No one wants him shot, they wont pay for him to have the surgery and wont come give him a good home. Well gee, you dont want him put down but by the same token wont do ANYTHING to prevent it other then say the guy whos pulling the trigger is an old dirty bastard. Makes sense to me.

I thought you were from Canada?? 😕

They won't pay for his surgery because they don't know him. How many people give a bum money on the street? Not that many. Probably 1 out of 100 people. They don't know his plight. Likewise, strangers have no memories with an old dog, he's just a dog. On the other hand, he's YOUR dog, and you should care about him, you heartless bastard.

And putting him down is somehow considered evil?? 😕

People misconstrue shooting the animal as trying him up and giving him a gut shot and watching him suffer. A bullet to the head is about the fastest way to die, period. Also, to some people a animal is NOT a baby. Its just that, an animal. For lack of a batter word, a toy. Why pay more to fix the broke when when you can just get a new one?
Of course, I also dont dress my animals in sweaters and have foo foo haircuts done to them either.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Canada? Eh, no. Anyway, I'm not really that sure of the point you are getting at. Are you making an attempt at saying that people talk a lot of sh!t online, but then never want to follow through and help someone? Personally, I've taken animals to the vet before when they were hurt and paid the bill. I can't say any animal dying(minus any type of spider, or something that is trying to kill me) makes me feel like a million bucks. I eat meat, hate PETA, and all that jazz, but I can see why people want to own domesticated pets, feed them, etc, and then have them put down over a vet bill. I could afford a 20k vet bill so possibly that tempers my perspective, but still I can't see shooting a dog in the head over 150 bucks. I don't like to see any innocent suffer.

Something along those lines. People just come on here and spout off there moral beliefs and critizie others, but in a real life situation they wouldnt do anything more then bang away at the keyboard. If someone stepped up and actually said "Hey, if someone wants a sick dog which could recover but I dont want to pay so I'm going to shoot him" you'd have 500 posts about how cruel the guy is, 30 saying they want pics and 3 saying EAT THE DOG!
But NO ONE, not ONE DAMNED PERSON would say Hey, lemme Paypal you the money, dont kill the poor innocent creature. Not ONE would say Hey, I'll come take him off your hands this weekend.
Kinda makes ones beliefs a bit hollow when the farthest they go in supporting them is typing eh?

Aside from that, a bullet in the head really shouldnt be considered "suffering". If I did shoot a dog I sure would gut shot it, a quick back of the head shot puts them down for all practical purposes instantly

I saw what could only be called an insane chow survive 1 30-30 shot to the side, and 1 to the head. She went down on that second shot, and they left her. The next day she was banging her food dish at the door, wanting to be fed. They figured if it survived that, it was meant to live. That dog lived another 4 years after that. It was nuts though, truly a menace to society, I'm suprised it never killed a kid. It was just never right in the head.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Why would you care how I'd feel. What would it have to do with any of us? Are you playing some kind of sick game and you get off on it? Why anyone would shoot a dog over 150 bucks is beyond me. But yeah, I wouldn't fly to your house to execute you right then, but I certainly would kill you eventually. Who would expect some guy from Alabama to car-bomb some guy from KC? 😛

I'm just seeing if the ole ATOT mindset is still the same. Bitch about everything that doesnt agree with your (Your being whoever the poster may be) mindset and beliefs, but do not a damned thing to change it.
Point being, this poor sick dog. No one wants him shot, they wont pay for him to have the surgery and wont come give him a good home. Well gee, you dont want him put down but by the same token wont do ANYTHING to prevent it other then say the guy whos pulling the trigger is an old dirty bastard. Makes sense to me.

I thought you were from Canada?? 😕

They won't pay for his surgery because they don't know him. How many people give a bum money on the street? Not that many. Probably 1 out of 100 people. They don't know his plight. Likewise, strangers have no memories with an old dog, he's just a dog. On the other hand, he's YOUR dog, and you should care about him, you heartless bastard.

And putting him down is somehow considered evil?? 😕

People misconstrue shooting the animal as trying him up and giving him a gut shot and watching him suffer. A bullet to the head is about the fastest way to die, period. Also, to some people a animal is NOT a baby. Its just that, an animal. For lack of a batter word, a toy. Why pay more to fix the broke when when you can just get a new one?
Of course, I also dont dress my animals in sweaters and have foo foo haircuts done to them either.

It's a living creature. We form attachments to them. Maybe you're a tough hard person who doesn't form attachments like that. You shouldn't have a problem pulling the plug on grandpa when the time comes. Good for you.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Nebor


I saw what could only be called an insane chow survive 1 30-30 shot to the side, and 1 to the head. She went down on that second shot, and they left her. The next day she was banging her food dish at the door, wanting to be fed. They figured if it survived that, it was meant to live. That dog lived another 4 years after that. It was nuts though, truly a menace to society, I'm suprised it never killed a kid. It was just never right in the head.

Where in the head? You gotta hit the grey matter man, you cant just shoot an eye out! 😉

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Nebor


I saw what could only be called an insane chow survive 1 30-30 shot to the side, and 1 to the head. She went down on that second shot, and they left her. The next day she was banging her food dish at the door, wanting to be fed. They figured if it survived that, it was meant to live. That dog lived another 4 years after that. It was nuts though, truly a menace to society, I'm suprised it never killed a kid. It was just never right in the head.

Where in the head? You gotta hit the grey matter man, you cant just shoot an eye out! 😉

I swear he shot that dog square in the skull. The bullet mark was back and above it's left eye. It like richocheted off the skull. We were blown away. (moreso than the dog, ha)

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Nebor


I saw what could only be called an insane chow survive 1 30-30 shot to the side, and 1 to the head. She went down on that second shot, and they left her. The next day she was banging her food dish at the door, wanting to be fed. They figured if it survived that, it was meant to live. That dog lived another 4 years after that. It was nuts though, truly a menace to society, I'm suprised it never killed a kid. It was just never right in the head.

Where in the head? You gotta hit the grey matter man, you cant just shoot an eye out! 😉

I swear he shot that dog square in the skull. The bullet mark was back and above it's left eye. It like richocheted off the skull. We were blown away. (moreso than the dog, ha)

😕

Moreso then the dog.... har har har 😛

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Not unless I were VERY wealthy, and I really love my boy Vito. I would spend $2K if necessary, but not $20K.

 

[Fingolfin269]

There is no way in hell that I would pay $20,000 so that an ANIMAL could live.

 

[RossMAN]

Current income: No.

If I could afford it: Yes.

 

[maziwanka]

jeez. what a horrible scenario

 

[Beattie]

That much money for a pet? I dont think so. A child, yea.

 

[Mandos]

Originally posted by: Actaeon
No.

I don't have the financials to pay for that, no matter how much I love it. If I was a multimillionaire, then it probally wouldn't be a problem. But I live in the real world, and don't have such a large fortune.

My children on the other hand, I would offer my own life if it came down to it.

 

[nageov3t]

no.

actually, we just put our dog to sleep a few days ago because of a $5,000 surgery.

sucks that she's gone and that we had to put her to sleep, but it's nice to be able to wake up and not have a puddle of puke/blood outside my door because my dog thought it was a good idea to swallow glass.

 

[Mandos]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Strange story... our cat got hit by a car and needed $1500 in surgery. We really couldn't afford it, so we sadly told the vet to put him down. We called 2 weeks later to ask what had become of the body and they're all like "Oh, he's making a good recovery..." They had operated on him and were going to keep him. My mom was all like "OMGWTFKILL". My dad owns a business fixing surgical instruments, so we worked out an agreement where we would get the cat, and they would get their instruments fixed.

Who the heck do they think they are, trying to steal our cat?

Whoh, you! =P

 

[biostud]

Nope, basically becuase I think it's insane to use that much on a pet.

All living have to die at some time, and instead of some years down the road it just had to gp now. And you can always buy a new and adorable pet, and I think that it would be loved just as much a year after, and you'd still have the $20,000.

 

[PanzerIV]

Hey kids we're gonna have to wipe out your college fund so rover can get major surgery! If I could afford it I would do it in a heartbeat but since I can't, $20,000 would go towards my families benefit first and foremost and not an animal.

 

[Parrotheader]

I could pay several thousand without batting an eye (assuming my dog was still a young 3-year old dog like he currently is and would have a full recovery; if we're talking about a 14-15 year old dog that would be a sad decision.) He's too important to our lives not to be willing to step up and help him out in spite of potentially high costs. But $20,000? Isn't that a bit 'out there' as far as normal dog/cat vet bills go? I once asked my vet this when perusing one of the pet insurance brochures at their office. He said that he only VERY rarely encounters any situations that cost more than a few thousand dollars as far as surgeries, etc. go.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
lol.... NO.

 

[phantom309]

What an awful choice to have to make. I love my kitties, but I just couldn't sacrifice my daughter's college education to keep one alive. Family first, always.

 

[SoyBoy004]

sadly, nope, can't afford it.

 

[rh71]

I'd have to say no for $20k. They only live about 15 years (I'm thinking dogs here) but if they were lifetime companions with us, then I'd seriously consider it.