If you were in charge, what kind of airport security would you implement?

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Zebo

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follow el al's security plan.


nothing beats the most targeting county for terrorism's biggest airline never having a single terrorist incident on board.


I flew on them like 4 years ago. they interview each passenger individually and ask a set of questions on top of the regular stuff + more stuff behind the scenes.

This. Someone is paying attention to stuff that works.
 

Zebo

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Ban Muslims from flying

LOL How do you know Slew? Jihad Jane had blond hair and blue eyes. I suspect most future terror attacks in West AQ will use white agents to throw off security.

The religion itself appeals to the Sociopathic and marginalized, especially Shuras 8&9, so converts will have no problem carrying out these acts a lot of former prisoners etc. It's like Islam was made for them to continue carnage.
 
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ProfJohn

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Offer everyone who wants to fly some bacon and those who turn it down are strip searched.
 

cubby1223

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What needs to be done first, is cut the perceived responsibility of the "party in power" from airport security. If we can get rid of the partisan bitching from the hack media, then a lot of this fear will naturally go away.


Why didn't the Times Square bomber cause insane ramped up screenings of everyone's vehicle? Because it's not the government's responsibility to *guarantee* a safe car ride.
 
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lord_emperor

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1. X-Ray checked and carry-on luggage, limit the volume of carry-ons.
2. Armed guard(s) on the plane, armed with clubs or tazers or something that doesn't poke holes in airplanes.

Seriously, 9/11 wasn't done with a bomb, the plane was taken over. If you had one guy trained to hit people with a stick and maybe wearing chainmail gloves, it would not have been a problem.
 

Svnla

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I will request Israel know how. They are pro-active and we are just re-active. They haven't have any problem with airport/airline problem for a while.
 
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boomerang

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Eliminate the root cause of the problem. No TSA will be needed then.

We can fight this enemy for decades or perhaps hundreds of years or we can eliminate them now. Which makes more sense from a fiscal perspective? Think of the U.S. lives saved. Think of what good could be accomplished by utilizing those resources elsewhere.

It's a no-brainer. But, we think we're above all that. That our ideals and morals are too advanced to wipe out an enemy on a wholesale basis. We're dealing with savages that are stuck in a mindset from thousands of years ago. They're only going to respond to one thing and it ain't singin' Kumbaya.

In 2010, taking the high road is no longer affordable. They're never going to beat us on the battlefield but they're beating us right now financially.
 
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Eliminate the root cause of the problem. No TSA will be needed then.

We can fight this enemy for decades or perhaps hundreds of years or we can eliminate them now. Which makes more sense from a fiscal perspective? Think of the U.S. lives saved. Think of what good could be accomplished by utilizing those resources elsewhere.

It's a no-brainer. But, we think we're above all that. That our ideals and morals are too advanced to wipe out an enemy on a wholesale basis. We're dealing with savages that are stuck in a mindset from thousands of years ago. They're only going to respond to one thing and it ain't singin' Kumbaya.

In 2010, taking the high road is no longer affordable. They're never going to beat us on the battlefield but they're beating us right now financially.

That'd be great if there WERE a they. Unfortunately there's not...not really. Oh, there are some temporary thems, but we can't even find those. The problem is that the ENTIRE 'war' was complete bullshit from second one, and is utterly untenable. It's all just an idea, and ideas cannot ever be fought. There will ALWAYS be a 'they'...for all time. So long as about ten or twelve humans remain alive in the universe, we'll have a they.

It's trying to fight them at all that's the real problem.
 

ebaycj

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I would mandate that every plane in the air has an RDX charge on it, remote contolled by the TSA.

In that case, we wouldn't would need to worry about other passengers carrying a bomb on a plane. Every plane comes with its own bomb, built in.

;)
 

Siddhartha

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Some sort of passenger scanning. Some way to find out if someone is trying to blow up a jet using a bomb in their underwear\crotch.
 

Siddhartha

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Eliminate the root cause of the problem. No TSA will be needed then.

We can fight this enemy for decades or perhaps hundreds of years or we can eliminate them now. Which makes more sense from a fiscal perspective? Think of the U.S. lives saved. Think of what good could be accomplished by utilizing those resources elsewhere.

It's a no-brainer. But, we think we're above all that. That our ideals and morals are too advanced to wipe out an enemy on a wholesale basis. We're dealing with savages that are stuck in a mindset from thousands of years ago. They're only going to respond to one thing and it ain't singin' Kumbaya.

In 2010, taking the high road is no longer affordable. They're never going to beat us on the battlefield but they're beating us right now financially.
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Your "kill them all" approach would probably motivate more people to attack the US. And it would make the US one of the worst mass murderers since the WWII. That would bother me.
 
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sonicdrummer20

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So it seems like there's a TSA is peverted meme spreading around. I understand people's frustrations but I'm not sure what they think the alternative is. So, what specifically would you have the TSA do before letting people board aircraft?

Sometimes I hear people suggest there's nothing we can do to stop terrorists so we might as well not bother innocent people and take the risks letting people on board. That's silly. Muslim terrorists have a hard-on for airplanes and it makes sense to have strong security at airports.

Personally, I don't get bent out of shape when asked to remove my shoes. I don't feel like the government is being ridiculous or like I'm living in the Soviet Union. The only thing that bothers me is the time wasted and the idiots in front of me, but that's an issue with streamlining the process and not about the search itself.

If I were to change anything I would make it more clear that there is profiling going on. There's no reason to pretend like a five year old girl from Tulsa is just as dangerous as a young man from Pakistan. People that are against profiling are against it whether or not you search the little girl or not, so we might as well cut it out and let them be mad when people dressed in Muslim garb are searched more than others.

Well for one I would encourage racial profiling despite the whole all men are created equal.

This is NOT to say i am rascist but lets be honest very few if any caucasian males are trying to blow up Airplanes, most I would say are middle-eastern looking.

That is all.
 

Zebo

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That'd be great if there WERE a they. Unfortunately there's not...not really. Oh, there are some temporary thems, but we can't even find those. The problem is that the ENTIRE 'war' was complete bullshit from second one, and is utterly untenable. It's all just an idea, and ideas cannot ever be fought. There will ALWAYS be a 'they'...for all time. So long as about ten or twelve humans remain alive in the universe, we'll have a they.

It's trying to fight them at all that's the real problem.

We fought Nazism and the Imperial cult pretty well, banned them and reeducated them after of course letting them know we were prepared to erase them from humanity if need be.
 

Zebo

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Well for one I would encourage racial profiling despite the whole all men are created equal.

This is NOT to say i am rascist but lets be honest very few if any caucasian males are trying to blow up Airplanes, most I would say are middle-eastern looking.

That is all.

Won't do anything. last few terror plots jihad jane, dude up in AK were white or black.

Islam is not a race and anyone infected by the homicide cult can be a terrorist/martyr
 
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epidemis

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So it seems like there's a TSA is peverted meme spreading around. I understand people's frustrations but I'm

Roll back to pre- christmas day underwear bomber!. He couldn't hurt anyone with his construction, the invasive patdowns and ionizing radiations are unneccesary!
 
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We fought Nazism and the Imperial cult pretty well, banned them and reeducated them after of course letting them know we were prepared to erase them from humanity if need be.

If you mean we nuked Japan and invaded Germany (all with the help of most of the world), then yeah. Attacking an infrastructure is relatively easy. If you mean we declared war on the IDEAS of those two nations, then you're flat out wrong. Hell, I can drive 2 minutes and be at the headquarters of the local nazi group. We didn't do anything to change the shitty morals of the world...just changed who was on top of the pile.
 

raildogg

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We need to find a good balance of vigilance, suspicion and respect when it comes to airport security.

However, you need to solve the root of the problem and not just the outbreaks.
 
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Darwin333

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1. X-Ray checked and carry-on luggage, limit the volume of carry-ons.
2. Armed guard(s) on the plane, armed with clubs or tazers or something that doesn't poke holes in airplanes.

Seriously, 9/11 wasn't done with a bomb, the plane was taken over. If you had one guy trained to hit people with a stick and maybe wearing chainmail gloves, it would not have been a problem.

Or a good cockpit door with a good lock....

Not that I am against the beating the crap out of the terrorists part but we have already solved the "using passenger planes as missiles" problem with better doors and the requirement to have them closed and locked during flight. The rest is simply cosmetic.
 

bfdd

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Xray checked and carry-on luggage. Beyond that, terrorists would be killed by the other passengers with their bare hands if they attempted anything at this point. What else needs to be done?

Pretty much this. The only reason 9/11 happened is because it hadn't happened before. No one now a days would stand up for some idiots with box cutters trying to jack a plane. Hell I wouldn't stand for it even if they had guns. Rather die getting shot in the face trying to stop their dumbasses, than in a ball of flame.
 

Darwin333

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Won't do anything. last few terror plots jihad jane, dude up in AK were white or black.

Islam is not a race and anyone infected by the homicide cult can be a terrorist/martyr

Oooh, we can have all airlines but one print their tickets on pig skin! Those airlines would have very minimal security. The passengers on the other one get their balls played with. Deal?


The absurdity of all of this is that passengers have been a million times more effective at stopping terrorists on passenger aircraft and TSA has a big fat goose egg. You are more likely to die in your bathtub than from a terrorist attack in the US. The passenger planes as missile thing has been solved with really really easy common sense policies. Oh yeah, the terrorists have already used a technique to detonate a bomb that would completely defeat the current "improved" ball cupping security measures.

The entire issue is like a bad joke or some shit from the twilight zone.
 

Capt Caveman

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Xray checked and carry-on luggage. Beyond that, terrorists would be killed by the other passengers with their bare hands if they attempted anything at this point. What else needs to be done?

How would this prevent some terrorist from denoting plastic explosives from the bathroom?

Eliminate the root cause of the problem. No TSA will be needed then.

We can fight this enemy for decades or perhaps hundreds of years or we can eliminate them now. Which makes more sense from a fiscal perspective? Think of the U.S. lives saved. Think of what good could be accomplished by utilizing those resources elsewhere.

It's a no-brainer. But, we think we're above all that. That our ideals and morals are too advanced to wipe out an enemy on a wholesale basis. We're dealing with savages that are stuck in a mindset from thousands of years ago. They're only going to respond to one thing and it ain't singin' Kumbaya.

In 2010, taking the high road is no longer affordable. They're never going to beat us on the battlefield but they're beating us right now financially.

How do you plan on doing this? Have US troops kill every Muslim(we don't know who is a terrorist or not) in the US and every country in the world? The only one without a brain is you.
 
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Zebo

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Oooh, we can have all airlines but one print their tickets on pig skin! Those airlines would have very minimal security. The passengers on the other one get their balls played with. Deal?


The absurdity of all of this is that passengers have been a million times more effective at stopping terrorists on passenger aircraft and TSA has a big fat goose egg. You are more likely to die in your bathtub than from a terrorist attack in the US. The passenger planes as missile thing has been solved with really really easy common sense policies. Oh yeah, the terrorists have already used a technique to detonate a bomb that would completely defeat the current "improved" ball cupping security measures.

The entire issue is like a bad joke or some shit from the twilight zone.

LOL So This.

Just an aside. The AQ manual tells them to hang out in bars, shave beards dress western and give no outward sign of being a muslim so they may be down with pork too to get their martyrdom on. Ends justifies means and all that. So all these ideas about humiliating a large group of 21st century Muslims to catch a few fundis will fail too.
 
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