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if you were born a muslim palestinian...

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I have no idea where you live, but if someone stole all your land and property, took away all your legal rights, I doubt you would content yourself by simply going elsewhere as a proper solution.

No, it would be very simple and quick. I would retake my land and property by force or die trying.
 
No, it would be very simple and quick. I would retake my land and property by force or die trying.
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While I can understand the Nebor position, given the arms disparity between Israelis and Palestinians, dying trying would be the Nebor outcome were he a Palestinian.
 
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While I can understand the Nebor position, given the arms disparity between Israelis and Palestinians, dying trying would be the Nebor outcome were he a Palestinian.

They should really get after it.
 
Absolutely I do. They're combatants/terrorists in the eyes of other side.
At least from what can be seen in the video, they're just bigots. They're have to actually engage in acts of combat or terrorism to rightly be deemed combatants or terorists. That said, at least you are consistent in your bastardization of such terms. But that leaves me to wonder, why do you support one side over those on the other, and not those who want to bring a peaceful resolution to the conflict?
 
What is land? What value does it hold, especially THAT land?

I would GTFO. It is the only sensible thing to do.

However, if I was born and raised there it'd probably be a sin against god not to martyr myself there. The danger is religious / national zealotry enforced by all the elders who train and deploy their youths to their deaths. I'd either a: suicide against Israel or b: suicide against my own elders for forcing that life upon me, if it's even possible for a Palestinian to see it that way.

It takes two to tango. At any time the Palestinians can reject their life of terror. They do not have to kill or be killed. As a group they can reject violence, and as a result the world would reject violence against them. It's a simple process until you take into account the people who want martyrdom - forcing the rest of their Palestinians to follow suit.

Are you asking if we can empathize for them? Sure...

Far as I'm concerned the most humane thing to do is to invade and kill their fighters, kill their leaders, kill of whole bunch of terrorists. Seize control and disarm the entire population. Force a decisive victory against them, remove their capacity for violence.

You stop the conflict today, whatever the cost, and you won't have to keep watching the violence / suffering for this unending war trickle in over the next hundred years. Future generations would have this mess cleaned up. They could begin to heal and move on. Instead of watching it drag out their entire lives.

Pain and suffering is bad, but pain and suffering over time, over decades and centuries, that is a true nightmare. Prolonging this violence is far worse than the initial down payment used to end it. If you care about them, you'd commit yourself to seeing this end by freeing them of their martyrs.

Yeh someone tried to do that with germany look where it landed a lot of countries into😛
 
At least from what can be seen in the video, they're just bigots. They're have to actually engage in acts of combat or terrorism to rightly be deemed combatants or terorists. That said, at least you are consistent in your bastardization of such terms. But that leaves me to wonder, why do you support one side over those on the other, and not those who want to bring a peaceful resolution to the conflict?

The Israelis and Palestinians kill each others civilians and kids constantly. I can understand why both side would view the others as terrorists or potential terrorists.

I support the Israelis because Israel is a great nation. It produces more for the world (except oil) than all the rest of the Middle East combined. There's high tech, there's weapons, medical research, etc. The Palestinians have never contributed anything to mankind except suicide bombers and flotilla drama.

But more than anything, I resent the Palestinians because they're cowards. As LL said about, what do you do when someone comes along and steals everything you own and care for? You fight to take it back, or die trying. Instead they bitch and cry to the international community (who by and large don't care) while waging a shadow war against the Israelis.

I'd prefer the Palestinians were either fully assimilated into other countries (including Israel if they're willing to accept second class citizenship for a few generations in order to ensure their political goals are aligned with Israel's) or killed. Instead they're just sitting in place and whining.
 
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