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If you were able to create a sword with a blade so thin

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
my shadow exists, but it isn't made of "matter" and is in fact a 2D object in this 3D world

A shadow isn't an object, but it is created by one 😛.

did you know you can move a shadow faster than the speed of light.

You can't move a shadow.

A Ninja could.

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

That is sort of analogous to the original question come to think of it. . .The OP is sort of saying what if you could make a sword that had a blade made of shadow. . .If such a sword could be made, only a Ninja could wield it.

That being said we can easily try out this experiment. Get a ninja sword and place an object on a table in front of a plain white wall. Place a light source on the other side of the room directed at the object. Stand between the light source and the object and swing the sword such that the shadow of it passes over the object. Does it cut? There's your answer. Make sure you try it with a variety of different objects to be sure the answer is conclusive.
 
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
my shadow exists, but it isn't made of "matter" and is in fact a 2D object in this 3D world

A shadow isn't an object, but it is created by one 😛.

did you know you can move a shadow faster than the speed of light.

You can't move a shadow.

A Ninja could.

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

That is sort of analogous to the original question come to think of it. . .The OP is sort of saying what if you could make a sword that had a blade made of shadow. . .If such a sword could be made, only a Ninja could wield it.

That being said we can easily try out this experiment. Get a ninja sword and place an object on a table in front of a plain white wall. Place a light source on the other side of the room directed at the object. Stand between the light source and the object and swing the sword such that the shadow of it passes over the object. Does it cut? There's your answer. Make sure you try it with a variety of different objects to be sure the answer is conclusive.

You know, they may have medication for your condition.
 
Originally posted by: ahurtt

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

You can influence where light is deflected, the shadow doesn't actually exist. That's like saying that you move the hole of a donut when you move the donut around.
 
Mathematically, if it were only 2D, it would only be able to interact with 2D objects. 3D objects wouldn't be seen.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: ahurtt

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

You can influence where light is deflected, the shadow doesn't actually exist. That's like saying that you move the hole of a donut when you move the donut around.

yet the shadow DOES exist, we can see it and interact with it, same with moving the hole of a donut around when you move the donut around. The hole doesn't stay in one place, it would just be random air, only when it is inside the inner circumference of the donut is it the "donut hole"
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
my shadow exists, but it isn't made of "matter" and is in fact a 2D object in this 3D world

A shadow isn't an object, but it is created by one 😛.

did you know you can move a shadow faster than the speed of light.

You can't move a shadow.

ummm...move the object creating the shadow...

Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: ahurtt

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

You can influence where light is deflected, the shadow doesn't actually exist. That's like saying that you move the hole of a donut when you move the donut around.

which is exactly why you can move it faster than light. because its not actually an object.
 
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Mathematically, if it were only 2D, it would only be able to interact with 2D objects. 3D objects wouldn't be seen.

All a 3D object is is a 2D object with multiple planes. A 2D object can easily interact with a 3D object, provided they are on the same plane. As a 3D object, you can "look down" to lower dimensions.

A 2D sword would likely sever any 3D bonds (assuming it was "sharp" enough) it intersects. However I would think the damage would be so minimal (it would happen below the sub-atomic level) that most of it would be repaired via atomic forces nearly instantaneously.
 
Even for the nubs saying that a shadow is 2D, it isn't projected on a "flat" surface so it wouldn't be 2d. That being said, you could give it a volume, because it would include the entire area that contained less photons due to an object blocking the projection of a light source. Whichever way you want to look at it, it isn't 2D.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: ahurtt

. . .wait. . .yes you can move a shadow. . .you just move whatever object is casting the shadow and the shadow moves.

You can influence where light is deflected, the shadow doesn't actually exist. That's like saying that you move the hole of a donut when you move the donut around.

Yes. . .very Zen. . .For there can be no donut without the donut hole and there can be no donut hole without the donut ring which defines and encompasses it. The two are inextricably linked yet one exists while one, in a sense, does not. To move the donut is to move it's hole yet the hole is non-existent. What is the sound of one hand clapping? If a tree falls in the woods but nobody hears it does it make a sound? If I fart and nobody smells it, does it stink? Such is shadow. . .to exist yet not exist at the same time. . .to be the only truly 2 dimensional thing in a 3 dimensional world. . .to both exist and yet be nothing at the same time. The shadow is a true oxymoron in a 3 dimensional universe. . .an impossibility but yet clearly visible. Though it exists not, it moves. . .silent, unseen in the darkness. . .Like the Ninja!
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: TallBill
That's like saying that you move the hole of a donut when you move the donut around.

I'd like to see you move a donut around without moving the hole.
Poke the outside of the donut.

You're not poking my donut hole! :Q :|
 
As the op wants it to be 2D which is not possible we can atleast make it a molecule wide !!! Then again cutting objects produces HEAT !! which is highly enough for a object a molecule wide to get ionized.So my argument is that the thinnest of the thinnest blades will melt through the way out of the objects they are cutting or get ionised. Either way they will deform !!

My argument is that as things get thinner and thinner, they become more and more unmanageable. That's cause the things you cut will be broken into two parts. And both the parts starts exerting force on the cutting surface. the surface irregularities/friction becomes humongous due to the thinness, as the sepration between the parts will be very less electromagnetic forces start acting.So even if you manage to make such a small thing, moving it will be hard !!! due to the electrons present on both the parts.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Even if it was 1 molecule wide, it'd be 3d.
...and then we come back to the 'real world' where application is the most important and realize that for a sword, which would be a few inches wide by up to a few feet long, 1 molecule thick is essentially "flat".
 
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: TallBill
Even if it was 1 molecule wide, it'd be 3d.
...and then we come back to the 'real world' where application is the most important and realize that for a sword, which would be a few inches wide by up to a few feet long, 1 molecule thick is essentially "flat".

Depends on what molecule.
 
If you were to somehow make an object so thin that it was "2D" then I imagine it would pass through objects in the space between the atoms. It would not even interact with the material.
 
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