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Chiropteran

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Keep in mind this result from google:

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momeNt said:
It's true that the pamphlet said that, not that what the pamphlet said is true.
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This. The Snopes page even says that. "Is this booklet evidence that Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya? Not even the site that published it made that claim..."

"The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself."

Nothing to see here.
 
Chiropteran said:
Keep in mind this result from google:

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What exactly are you accomplishing by sharing this? Besides looking foolish, that is.

The "true" part is that the booklet claimed Obama was born in Kenya. That doesn't make the claim itself true, or reduce the value of Snopes. If anything, it boosts Snopes' value by acknowledging that people make mistakes. Wouldn't it be great if you admitted to making mistakes, too?
 
Why are some still so focused on Obama? I understood when he was President but its over now. Obama will never be President again or ever be in line to be President again. His political days are over. Why even waste time with OP's post?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Why are some still so focused on Obama? I understood when he was President but its over now. Obama will never be President again or ever be in line to be President again. His political days are over. Why even waste time with OP's post?
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Trump played stupid politics with Obama and now that he has to deal with the real world the Obama supporters want to get even.
 
Thebobo said:
Diversion
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I think it's more part of continuing conservative attempts to discredit non-ideological and traditional media. If no source can be trusted then every source is equally valid.

When Trump says Obama wiretapped him and all other reports say that's a lie if all sources are unreliable it changes the story from 'Trump lies again' to 'maybe Obama wiretapped Trump'. That's a win if you're uninterested in truth.
 
I remember a poster years ago on and on about this. When it was pointed out that the publisher printed it on a pamphlet promoting their authors and confirmed it was in error with no input from Obama he just ignored it. Apparently we are back to that point again. It's the circle of life.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Trump played stupid politics with Obama and now that he has to deal with the real world the Obama supporters want to get even.
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That doesn't relate to the OP in the slightest. When bereft of new lies & distortions right wing propagandists just drag out the old lies to rally the troops & control the conversation.
 
Chiropteran said:
Good, you get it. That is how snopes SHOULD be rating claims.

Now look at what it has turned into:

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Uhh, or because it requires the reader actually pay attention to what they're reading. There's no 'obfuscation' there. There's a 'claim' 'rating' and 'what's true' which makes 110% sense once you read it. If a person is literally using a dozen words from a google search as their 'news', they deserve what they get.
 
This is a unique opportunity folks. You're getting a first hand look into the machinations of the mind of a Trump cultist. What passes for solid information to them is sagely internet lore imparted via jpegs, YouTube videos with eerie music or Twitter postings by Infowars staffers. Once received they internalize it and go forth to spread the gospel of Trump and Russian psyops propaganda.

This is what happens when you stop thinking for yourself and let your handlers think for you. Pizzagate, spirit cooking, birtherism etc. These fanatics are true believers and they get to vote.
 
I don't understand the point here. Snopes is right. It is true that the publicist printed something saying he was born in Kenya. That is what was evaluated. What are we trying to get at here? Does the OP not understand what he's seeing?
 
Chiropteran said:
Good, you get it. That is how snopes SHOULD be rating claims.

Now look at what it has turned into:
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Snipped the shitty MS paint infographic. Do you understand how an internet search works? If you search for "hud audit missing funds" you may get an answer to a slightly different question. The different question in this case is "Did Ben Carson discover $500 billion in accounting errors" and the answer is "no, the guy before him did." You seem pretty easily duped by transparent amateur propaganda.
 
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The claim of $500B in accounting errors is sensationalistic bullshit intended to deceive.

It turns out to be like surveying where cumulative errors tend to be self correcting resulting in very small net error. In the case of HUD, that's $3M.
 
Chiropteran said:
Good, you get it. That is how snopes SHOULD be rating claims.

Now look at what it has turned into:

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This is kind of amazing. Your original post was shown to be comically false and it's obvious you were duped by conservative media. After finding out that conservative media lied to you instead of saying to yourself 'Maybe I shouldn't listen to these people anymore' you went back to them and found a second false example.

Seriously, what does it take for you to accept that conservative media is lying to you? Don't you see what total, complete contempt they hold you in? They are very clearly saying they believe you lack the intelligence to accurately uncover the real information behind the 'news' they bring you. I find it funny and sad that some conservatives say they vote for Republicans because Democrats look down and sneer at them. Let me tell you, nobody... and I mean nobody... thinks less of conservative voters than conservative media does. They show it through their actions every day.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
Uhh, or because it requires the reader actually pay attention to what they're reading. There's no 'obfuscation' there. There's a 'claim' 'rating' and 'what's true' which makes 110% sense once you read it. If a person is literally using a dozen words from a google search as their 'news', they deserve what they get.
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If it's over 140 characters, it ain't worth readin'.
 
Chiropteran said:
Good, you get it. That is how snopes SHOULD be rating claims.

Now look at what it has turned into:

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But it's right about the literal claim, which is the whole point. People were asserting that Carson swooped in and discovered $500 billion in accounting errors; this is false.

Do you actually understand why sites like Snopes exist? It's to refute or validate claims that stretch credulity, to debunk that propaganda post you saw on Facebook or that hoax your grandma forwarded through email. From what you've showed, there's no "controlling the narrative" here -- it's just setting the record straight according to the site's publicly stated mission. Now if it pretended the errors weren't serious or insisted that people were making a claim that didn't exist, that'd be another story.
 
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