Not all homosexuals use the "gay" card. Just like not all african americans use the "race" card.
There are always exceptions.
Not all homosexuals use the "gay" card. Just like not all african americans use the "race" card.
There are always exceptions.
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Sorry, but what makes guys with girls the designated way of having sex? Unacceptable answers are as follows:
Because
Because it's the way I do it
Because it's the way I feel about
Because that's the way god/nature/allah/Jim Bob intended it
Because it's not natural
Because it's gross
Because, well, two girls is allright, but I don't know about two guys
Acceptable answers involve actual reasons and facts, not opinions. Why? Because if you want to have an opinion, that's fine, but don't impose it on others/bother others with it. If you're trying to actually prove your statement, facts will be required.
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Homosexuality does not prevent procreation. That is a choice we all make. If I wanted children, I could have children. Plain and simple.
If in the wild, a homosexual would not be easy prey like someone with a broken leg or bad eye sight. Society does not take care of homosexuals like it does those who are truely disabled. We work, live, love, hurt and laugh. We don't see it as a disability because it doesn't hold us down. Something else holds us down. Intolerant people.
I think and hope that I already posted it's not a dibilitating problem but sure does prevent procreation. Just reread my paragraph agian and not skim it. Just the same with not being born with balls (it essentially makes them useless), you can live a life and it's not going to kill you but it will prevent procreation. If disability is not the correct word, what politically incorrect word should I use? How about deformity or birth defect. I choose disability because I wanted to keep a non politically correct subject as politically correct as possible. What ever you want to call it, it doesn't matter because I still dont think it's
"all in thier head" I truely think that some are actually born that way.
Originally posted by: marcello
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Sorry, but what makes guys with girls the designated way of having sex? Unacceptable answers are as follows:
Because
Because it's the way I do it
Because it's the way I feel about
Because that's the way god/nature/allah/Jim Bob intended it
Because it's not natural
Because it's gross
Because, well, two girls is allright, but I don't know about two guys
Acceptable answers involve actual reasons and facts, not opinions. Why? Because if you want to have an opinion, that's fine, but don't impose it on others/bother others with it. If you're trying to actually prove your statement, facts will be required.
Thats a really dumb question but I will answer it anyways, tell me if everyone had sex with guys (guys on guys and girls on girls) do you think the human race would last? I think not, we would die out with in 1 generation of each other. Until we can procreate with who ever, I am still going to say that the designated sex for men is women and women is men. Its not bad or anything but it is a reproductive disability.
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Homosexuality does not prevent procreation. That is a choice we all make. If I wanted children, I could have children. Plain and simple.
If in the wild, a homosexual would not be easy prey like someone with a broken leg or bad eye sight. Society does not take care of homosexuals like it does those who are truely disabled. We work, live, love, hurt and laugh. We don't see it as a disability because it doesn't hold us down. Something else holds us down. Intolerant people.
I think and hope that I already posted it's not a dibilitating problem but sure does prevent procreation. Just reread my paragraph agian and not skim it. Just the same with not being born with balls (it essentially makes them useless), you can live a life and it's not going to kill you but it will prevent procreation. If disability is not the correct word, what politically incorrect word should I use? How about deformity or birth defect. I choose disability because I wanted to keep a non politically correct subject as politically correct as possible. What ever you want to call it, it doesn't matter because I still dont think it's
"all in thier head" I truely think that some are actually born that way.
I respect your opinion.
I am gay. Have always been gay. And will always be gay.
When the time comes, if I want a child, I will have a child.
And my homosexuality will not change that.
I may not be able to choose who I am attracted to, that's beyond me.
But I am able to choose what I will and won't do with my life.
You can't over extend the example to everyone, that's stupid. It's a natural part of life, people are different. It doesn't mean there is a problem with them. It's like saying everyone who has blond hair has a birth defect because clearly dark hair protects you from the sun better and is therefore more suitable to survival.
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Homosexuality does not prevent procreation. That is a choice we all make. If I wanted children, I could have children. Plain and simple.
If in the wild, a homosexual would not be easy prey like someone with a broken leg or bad eye sight. Society does not take care of homosexuals like it does those who are truely disabled. We work, live, love, hurt and laugh. We don't see it as a disability because it doesn't hold us down. Something else holds us down. Intolerant people.
I think and hope that I already posted it's not a dibilitating problem but sure does prevent procreation. Just reread my paragraph agian and not skim it. Just the same with not being born with balls (it essentially makes them useless), you can live a life and it's not going to kill you but it will prevent procreation. If disability is not the correct word, what politically incorrect word should I use? How about deformity or birth defect. I choose disability because I wanted to keep a non politically correct subject as politically correct as possible. What ever you want to call it, it doesn't matter because I still dont think it's
"all in thier head" I truely think that some are actually born that way.
I respect your opinion.
I am gay. Have always been gay. And will always be gay.
When the time comes, if I want a child, I will have a child.
And my homosexuality will not change that.
I may not be able to choose who I am attracted to, that's beyond me.
But I am able to choose what I will and won't do with my life.
Thats fine, I have no problem with your life style. But if you want a kid, your going to have to adopt am I not correct? I just think that when your gay it really does prevent procreation from the initial user. You may be able to take care of another but you wont be able to have a child unless it's with a women.
Besides the world is already way overpopulated. Having more people not procreate is probably a good thing from that standpoint.
No, this is where mutation takes a pivital role. If there is a mutation or "change" where it allows the species to have a higher success rate/adapt to the changing environment then it wouldn't be a disability. But if in the example of being blond and very white (I'm white BTW) and your in africa and your getting burned everyday then it's dibilitating hence being called a disability. If what "feature" one has works in thier environment where everything works out then it's not a disability. But if it prevents or hurts reproduction, living, etc... then it's a disability. There are white people in the northern hemisphere and black people in the southern hemisphere (until we decided to switch spots) because there is either TOO much Vitamin E and all other nutrients we get from the sun or too little. Thats why you get a tan when you go out into the sun, because you have to little melalnin. I am not expert on skin and evolution but I do know the reason why people are "tinted" in certain places and not in others. Completely off topic but then agian thats what this forum is about!
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: loki8481
it doesn't really prevent mating.
I might chose to not have sex with women, and I may not enjoy it if I did, but I could still get it up if I had to. most gay men I know at least experimented with heterosexual sex at least once just to verify that they didn't like it
Good point, but do you think gay animals think about experimenting? Could it be possible that they never want to be near a female animal? And just go for being gay? If being gay occurs after impregnating a female and the species continues to thrive then I guess it would be simply a sideffect. Kinda like that one spider that eats the male after the male inpregnates her....
Let me rephrase my previous question...
How the fvck can you be so stupid?
It seems like your too scared to discuss any topics that are considered "controversial". Just mentioning the word "gay" makes you chuckle inside which is why you think i am dumb for bringing it up. I think its an enitrely valid point, if anything gets in the way of animal or human (essentially the same) reproduction then technically it would be a disability.
Oh, I love to discuss controversial subjects, and I'm one of the most politically incorrect people you'll ever meet, you illiterate jackass, but your point is rediculous. What makes me "chuckle inside" are morons like you who think they're intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation.
How the hell do you think an animal can be gay? Do you think when your dog humps your leg, he's acting out homosexual tendencies? Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
Your just as illiterate as you think I AM! Homosexuality does occur in nature and I would consider it a disability if it "confuses" the individual in to having sexual relations with the non designated sex. Yes it may not prevent the individual from living but it does prevent them for procreating. You guys say that "Well I'm fertile, I can choose to have sex with a woman..." Well if you were isolated and didn't know what you were doing "tendacies towards men" is not what nature intended for then yes I can call it a "disability". Thats where you getting off that people who are gay are not born gay but it is choice. That is more rude than what I am initially saying. Yes I do believe some turn gay for many reasons, abuse, rape, bad luck with women..., prison, peer pressure, all things that can cause some one to turn gay. I believe that some people are actually born gay because I have heard of people who all thier life were not ever really interested in women etc... There are so many variables that can affect one's gender preference that can make one gay. If it's from what I listed above then it can be said that its a psychological issue/trauma and if your born that way then a disability your born with. Experimentation and making a life choice are two different things, just want to clarify that. Agian I dont have a problem with gay people, when I see kids "giggle" because the way a guy talks "sounds gay" I just roll my eyes because I simply don't care. Since we live in such a diverse, complex society it shouldn't matter as much anymore if your gay because of the huge volume of people there wont be procreation problems (if anything we need less people). Even people with crippling disabilities still can live a prosperous life because of how our society has developed to take of those who are need. Sighs. I'm not a troll just a curious topic.
Homosexuality does not prevent procreation. That is a choice we all make. If I wanted children, I could have children. Plain and simple.
If in the wild, a homosexual would not be easy prey like someone with a broken leg or bad eye sight. Society does not take care of homosexuals like it does those who are truely disabled. We work, live, love, hurt and laugh. We don't see it as a disability because it doesn't hold us down. Something else holds us down. Intolerant people.
I think and hope that I already posted it's not a dibilitating problem but sure does prevent procreation. Just reread my paragraph agian and not skim it. Just the same with not being born with balls (it essentially makes them useless), you can live a life and it's not going to kill you but it will prevent procreation. If disability is not the correct word, what politically incorrect word should I use? How about deformity or birth defect. I choose disability because I wanted to keep a non politically correct subject as politically correct as possible. What ever you want to call it, it doesn't matter because I still dont think it's
"all in thier head" I truely think that some are actually born that way.
I respect your opinion.
I am gay. Have always been gay. And will always be gay.
When the time comes, if I want a child, I will have a child.
And my homosexuality will not change that.
I may not be able to choose who I am attracted to, that's beyond me.
But I am able to choose what I will and won't do with my life.
Thats fine, I have no problem with your life style. But if you want a kid, your going to have to adopt am I not correct? I just think that when your gay it really does prevent procreation from the initial user. You may be able to take care of another but you wont be able to have a child unless it's with a women.
Even as undesirable as it is, it can be, and has been, done.
Women can be beautiful, but for the life of me I just don't find them sexually attractive.
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I would call it a birth defect. And to add to that, as Sienfeld would say, "Not that there's anything wrong with it."
I also don't want the label homophobe, as I'm not one. Sexual orientation, like a person's race, just doesn't matter to me. Oh, so you're Asian? Whaddaya known. Gay? Fascinating. So how's your day going?
Just isn't a concern.
That said, I still call it a birth defect. For a species to exist, each individual must be born with the need to mate with a member of the opposite sex. If an individual seeks those of its own sex, that individual will fail to pass on any genes. A species could not survive that way of course. Therefore, I think that the need to be with members of the same sex is simply a defect somewhere in the course of development. Nothing immoral or unethical about it - you're just born that way. If seeking another of your own gender is what brings you happiness, hey, it doesn't hurt anyone else - why go against the Declaration of Independence? Humans need companionship. Just as you can't expect a heterosexual to seek a mate of the same gender, neither can you expect a homosexual to seek a mate of the opposite gender.
It just amuses me too, how this subject of talk is almost forbidden. I see the issue of skin pigmentation was mentioned - granted, it's not really a defect; more of a genetic mutation, in that the white skin mutated over time, as the dark pigmentation was not needed at more extreme latitudes. But why is that skin coloration argument allowed, but discussion of sexual orientation not? Everyone goes on the attack right away, assuming the OP to be making a horrible assault, when there really doesn't seem to be one being made in the first place.
I also don't want the label homophobe, as I'm not one. Sexual orientation, like a person's race, just doesn't matter to me. Oh, so you're Asian? Whaddaya known. Gay? Fascinating. So how's your day going?
Just isn't a concern.
That said, I still call it a birth defect. For a species to exist, each individual must be born with the need to mate with a member of the opposite sex. If an individual seeks those of its own sex, that individual will fail to pass on any genes. A species could not survive that way of course. Therefore, I think that the need to be with members of the same sex is simply a defect somewhere in the course of development. Nothing immoral or unethical about it - you're just born that way. If seeking another of your own gender is what brings you happiness, hey, it doesn't hurt anyone else - why go against the Declaration of Independence? Humans need companionship. Just as you can't expect a heterosexual to seek a mate of the same gender, neither can you expect a homosexual to seek a mate of the opposite gender.
It just amuses me too, how this subject of talk is almost forbidden. I see the issue of skin pigmentation was mentioned - granted, it's not really a defect; more of a genetic mutation, in that the white skin mutated over time, as the dark pigmentation was not needed at more extreme latitudes. But why is that skin coloration argument allowed, but discussion of sexual orientation not? Everyone goes on the attack right away, assuming the OP to be making a horrible assault, when there really doesn't seem to be one being made in the first place.
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Wow. What a bunch of PC idiots in here. Here's the definition of "disability" from dictionary.com:
dis·a·bil·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-bl-t)
n. pl. dis·a·bil·i·ties
1. a. The condition of being disabled; incapacity.
b. The period of such a condition: never received a penny during her disability.
2. A disadvantage or deficiency, especially a physical or mental impairment that interferes with or prevents normal achievement in a particular area.
3. Something that hinders or incapacitates.
4. Law. A legal incapacity or disqualification.
Is intercourse with someone from the opposite sex considered the norm? YES.
Can a gay person have intercourse with someone from the opposite sex if they wanted to? YES.
So what prevents them from wanting to have sex with the opposite sex? SOMETHING IN THEIR HEAD
So it's clear to anyone with a brain that you could call this a mental 'disability'. Is this a very PC term? NO. Does this particular 'disability' prevent normal operation in the person? NO.
The OP is NOT saying that gays are some cooky mental retards. This has nothing to do with whether a gay person can procreate or not. I understand gays are used to being picked on, but I don't see that happening at all in this thread. Get over it.
dis·a·bil·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-bl-t)
n. pl. dis·a·bil·i·ties
1. a. The condition of being disabled; incapacity.
b. The period of such a condition: never received a penny during her disability.
2. A disadvantage or deficiency, especially a physical or mental impairment that interferes with or prevents normal achievement in a particular area.
3. Something that hinders or incapacitates.
4. Law. A legal incapacity or disqualification.
Is intercourse with someone from the opposite sex considered the norm? YES.
Can a gay person have intercourse with someone from the opposite sex if they wanted to? YES.
So what prevents them from wanting to have sex with the opposite sex? SOMETHING IN THEIR HEAD
So it's clear to anyone with a brain that you could call this a mental 'disability'. Is this a very PC term? NO. Does this particular 'disability' prevent normal operation in the person? NO.
The OP is NOT saying that gays are some cooky mental retards. This has nothing to do with whether a gay person can procreate or not. I understand gays are used to being picked on, but I don't see that happening at all in this thread. Get over it.
So if the norm changes, they no longer have a disability?
I think what the definition is talking about is an achievement like learning, reading, walking, driving... things like vision problems or mental retardation are examples of impairments. Who you're attracted to sexually is not.
Now if you turn the tables, we could use this line of argumentation.
Is disagreeing with the original poster in this case the norm? YES
Can you disagree with the original poster if you want to? YES
So what prevents you from disagreeing with the original poster? SOMETHING IN YOUR HEAD
So it's clear to anyone with a brain that you could call this a mental 'disability'. Is this a very PC term? NO. Does this particular 'disability' prevent normal operation in you? NO.
What have I just proven? NOTHING.
I think what the definition is talking about is an achievement like learning, reading, walking, driving... things like vision problems or mental retardation are examples of impairments. Who you're attracted to sexually is not.
Now if you turn the tables, we could use this line of argumentation.
Is disagreeing with the original poster in this case the norm? YES
Can you disagree with the original poster if you want to? YES
So what prevents you from disagreeing with the original poster? SOMETHING IN YOUR HEAD
So it's clear to anyone with a brain that you could call this a mental 'disability'. Is this a very PC term? NO. Does this particular 'disability' prevent normal operation in you? NO.
What have I just proven? NOTHING.
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