If you retrain American workers .....

[IHateMyJob2004]

.... you will have well trained baggers at your grocery store.

I don't get it. Think of it this way. If you want everyone to have knowledge of advanced calculus, you'll have a well educated public. But you still need people to do simple things like drive cabs. Why educate more than needed for jobs that don't exist. All that will reuslt is people with more knowledge than needed for their profession. It is not hard to know that left foot=stop and right foot=go? Sure it is poetic, It doesn't reflect reality.

People actually think this makes sense?

 

[Infohawk]

Also, if you train everyone to be a computer programmer, computer programmer salaries will be very low.

 

[God Mode]

It's because the retards that think that way have selective logic and tend to be self centered.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Also, if you train everyone to be a computer programmer, computer programmer salaries will be very low.

But the ultra wealthy will be able to pay lower wages! Why is retraining not the act of teaching people to give speeches .... ya the role of politicians. Your example is kinda funny. Dilute the market for a needed supply. Those that are very good get hurt. The wealthy can hire people for less. Genious!

 

[rudder]

I don't think anyone is advocating retraining every worker and sending them to med school or have them get a Phd in computer science. There are a number of manufacturers in this country that are having a hard time filling positions. These positions are more technically challenging than turning a bolt on the production line.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/us...00-skilled-workers-survey-says-132023778.html

There are also industries where demand has dropped. There are newer opportunities where if someone could learn a new skill, they would be more employable.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

God forbid that someone becomes a skilled tradesman, no way an American would want to perform manual labor when they could get a college degree and a cushy desk job.

 

[Broheim]

the P&N flawed logic machine hard at work again.

 

[gingermeggs]

God forbid that someone becomes a skilled tradesman, no way an American would want to perform manual labor when they could get a college degree and a cushy desk job.

Defies the law of supply and demand don't it?

 

[gingermeggs]

It's because the retards that think that way have selective logic and tend to be self centered.

Are you talking about greedy people, that don't want to work for the money they earn?

 

[jackschmittusa]

We could always retrain downward and create our own tomato pickers.

 

[Texashiker]

God forbid that someone becomes a skilled tradesman, no way an American would want to perform manual labor when they could get a college degree and a cushy desk job.

I worked in various welding shops for around 15 years. During that time I earned a good honest living. The parts I built were used to refine gasoline.

If you bought gasoline or oil between 1986 and 2000 anywhere in the southeast Texas (exxon, fina, citgo, to name a few companies), southwest Louisiana area, I probably had a hand in making the parts used to refine the gas and oil.

 

[Cerb]

.... you will have well trained baggers at your grocery store.

I don't get it. Think of it this way. If you want everyone to have knowledge of advanced calculus, you'll have a well educated public. But you still need people to do simple things like drive cabs. Why educate more than needed for jobs that don't exist. All that will reuslt is people with more knowledge than needed for their profession. It is not hard to know that left foot=stop and right foot=go? Sure it is poetic, It doesn't reflect reality.

People actually think this makes sense?

Yes. To some of us, other human beings are more than economic machinery.

Knowledge needed for a profession should be confined to schooling for that profession. A plumber needs to know how to safety move liquids in pipes, within confines of local regulations. If said plumber wishes to learn advanced calculus, there is no good reason not to.

Intellectual endeavors should not be confined to economic class.

If learning is just about money to you, you should probably go learn about suicide. The world would be better off.

But the ultra wealthy will be able to pay lower wages! Why is retraining not the act of teaching people to give speeches .... ya the role of politicians. Your example is kinda funny. Dilute the market for a needed supply. Those that are very good get hurt. The wealthy can hire people for less. Genious!

Imagine a mythical person trained in more than one field.

If one is paying low, they may go to another, that pays better. Oh, the horror of employers! During the time when U.S. workers could actually do that, our workers and their employers were both thriving.

Our problem is having more laborers than we have current demand for, and not enough capital to serve their needs, not over-schooling potential employees.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't think anyone is advocating retraining every worker and sending them to med school or have them get a Phd in computer science. There are a number of manufacturers in this country that are having a hard time filling positions. These positions are more technically challenging than turning a bolt on the production line.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/us...00-skilled-workers-survey-says-132023778.html

There are also industries where demand has dropped. There are newer opportunities where if someone could learn a new skill, they would be more employable.

Quite true, yet a small bit of denial wrt the larger problem of dysfunctional hiring practices & a wage/ skills gap. 600K openings is significant, for sure, but it's not much of a dent in the overall level of unemployment.

Employers have relied on a pool of older skilled workers displaced by downsized employment in all sorts of tech pursuits, and it's starting to catch up to them as older workers retire. Nor does it help that the training & experience of Union apprentice programs & accreditation have been swept aside.

Drug testing idiocy, particularly wrt cannabis, adds to the issues, as does wanting $30/hr skills for $15/hr, too.

 

[bfdd]

.... you will have well trained baggers at your grocery store.

I don't get it. Think of it this way. If you want everyone to have knowledge of advanced calculus, you'll have a well educated public. But you still need people to do simple things like drive cabs. Why educate more than needed for jobs that don't exist. All that will reuslt is people with more knowledge than needed for their profession. It is not hard to know that left foot=stop and right foot=go? Sure it is poetic, It doesn't reflect reality.

People actually think this makes sense?

Which further leads to depression, etc. We need to educate people on how to just be happy and stop trying to live their life to the standards of others. Sadly though we've allowed this nation and our "leadership" to be hijacked by groupthink which seeks out to destroy the individual and the individuals happiness.

 

[Gillbot]

You would have an American worker able to perform two jobs, but they'd refuse to do so because it didn't pay enough?

 

[JS80]

lol the mind of an loliberal

 

[Jhhnn]

lol the mind of an loliberal

Nice to see another of your zero content posts. It's quite revealing.

Obviously, better knowledge, training & experience can help people get ahead within the system, but those things won't solve systemic level problems, at all. If we really want to solve those, we need to change the system, and conservatives are all about resisting such change. The changes they want are ones that reinforce the current way of doing things, which is the basis of our problems in the first place.

 

[rudder]

You would have an American worker able to perform two jobs, but they'd refuse to do so because it didn't pay enough?

The worker would be able to get two $10/hr jobs effectively making $20/hour.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The worker would be able to get two $10/hr jobs effectively making $20/hour.

That looks very similar to McOwned Math

 

[Doppel]

.... you will have well trained baggers at your grocery store.

I don't get it. Think of it this way. If you want everyone to have knowledge of advanced calculus, you'll have a well educated public. But you still need people to do simple things like drive cabs. Why educate more than needed for jobs that don't exist. All that will reuslt is people with more knowledge than needed for their profession. It is not hard to know that left foot=stop and right foot=go? Sure it is poetic, It doesn't reflect reality.

People actually think this makes sense?

This is fair if everybody was highly skilled but there are so many at the bottom who can do virtually nothing that it still makes sense to increase capabilities. There are even now situations in which some areas can have excessive education, though, for what the area can offer and skilled workers have to move away. Training more in such an area will not result in any benefit to it, since yet more will move away due to lack of work.