If you learned this was being built next door would you protest.

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if you have ever voted to support welfare, or ever voter for a candidate that supports welfare, i believe you waive your right to complain about things like this
 

Capt Caveman

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It's possible that this complex development isn't even real nor of any grand scale. Quite possibly a 20 unit complex which wouldn't be a detriment to the community.

Also note, the OP is a known troll who has yet to post beyond the OP.

fwiw - I live in Cambridge, MA which has the highest percentage of subsidized housing and the highest percentage of million dollar homes of any city in the US, yet we have below than average crime. Interesting...
 

JDub02

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bunch of drug addicts and criminals will live there. get out before you get robbed.
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

I would cite the Cabrini Greens in Chicago and bolt.

Exactly what I came in here to mention. My best friend's brother is a detective with the CPD who works that area, and he says crime has gone up lately despite tearing down most of the buildings and moving people out.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

I would cite the Cabrini Greens in Chicago and bolt.

Exactly what I came in here to mention. My best friend's brother is a detective with the CPD who works that area, and he says crime has gone up lately despite tearing down most of the buildings and moving people out.

Lola and I accidently traversed pretty much all the way through Cabrini Greens without realizing where we were. We survived. Woohoo! Detroit makes Cabrini Greens look like Palm Springs. :p
 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

I would cite the Cabrini Greens in Chicago and bolt.

Exactly what I came in here to mention. My best friend's brother is a detective with the CPD who works that area, and he says crime has gone up lately despite tearing down most of the buildings and moving people out.

Lola and I accidently traversed pretty much all the way through Cabrini Greens without realizing where we were. We survived. Woohoo! Detroit makes Cabrini Greens look like Palm Springs. :p

I figured since Detroit was the hometown of Robocop crime would be all cleaned up by now!
 

krunchykrome

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I would definetly protest the development. It would rot the community, and bring crime, etc into our area.

Here in Columbia, Maryland, we have very nice neighborhoods with houses selling for $500K+, and right down the street is section 8 public housing. Reading through the crime reports in our local paper, we can clearly see most of the crime takes place in these areas.

 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Well, government wouldn't build those kind of complexes in Beverly Hills, so I think they'll build it where they think fits. That means if they build something like that next door to you, chances are you shouldn't be worried too much, you belong.

thats a stupid comment

check out the last 3 years best places to live in America per money magazine

Columbia, MD was 3rd last year and this year we're 8th or 9th

but part of the blue print for this community was to have diversity. What that has meant for us is expensive houses and public housing literally minutes away.

 

Steve

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

I would cite the Cabrini Greens in Chicago and bolt.

Exactly what I came in here to mention. My best friend's brother is a detective with the CPD who works that area, and he says crime has gone up lately despite tearing down most of the buildings and moving people out.

Lola and I accidently traversed pretty much all the way through Cabrini Greens without realizing where we were. We survived. Woohoo! Detroit makes Cabrini Greens look like Palm Springs. :p

I remember you sending me that PM :D At least it was during daylight hours. Hell, I've driven past at nighttime without incident, but maybe my luck will run out...
 

Kabob

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I'd be pissed and protest.

Heck, I live in a "reasonably" nice apartment complex but it's in the middle of a neighborhood that's middle-upper class and we're right behind a bunch of houses. I guarantee that dropped their home value when the apartments were built...
 

Xavier434

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I have an amazing idea! Let's just bulldoze all government subsidized housing for the sake of our property value. Really...it's ok that these people live on the streets no matter how old they are or how many kids they have because the more of them that there are the more they can work together to improve our great community. It's not like homeless people ever commit crimes. Oh and everyone is completely cool with living in cities where the homeless population is off the charts. That sort of thing never reduces property value so we don't have to worry about that. In fact, I think it even attracts more people to move there! These new people who love living around the crime and drug free homeless people will bring tons of profitable business and tax dollars to our town. These dollars can be used for all sorts of great things! Just think about what it will do for our children and their schools which greatly depend on this money to function properly and ensure America's future. Heck, these homeless people will even offer little Jimmy good social experiences by providing him with someone to talk to as he waits for the school bus. This idea is pure win.

Nothing to see here folks....move along. :roll:
 

rh71

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time to move

Originally posted by: alkemyst
if your bought oceanfront this wouldn't ever happen.

I bet a lot of those people down there would rather have the projects than living IN the oceanfront right about now.
 
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There's a halfway house in my friends neighborhood. The houses are all easily $200K and up. No one knows what it is by looking at it. If you are worried, either sell your house and get out or take precautions now and teach your kids to not talk to strangers, make sure all your doors and windows have working locks, ect.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

You must live in a poor area for land to be cheap enough to build income based housing.
This is bullshit.

I can take you to several places around here where they built projects less than a mile from very nice housing developments.

And thefts from those places started pretty soon after the projects were populated.

No, you aren't going to have some low-income housing built nearby if you live near a bunch of movie stars, but you can live in a VERY nice development and land nearby can most certainly be bought and turned into the projects.
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: ICRS
If you learned a government financed "Multifamily housing complex for very low income, low income, and disabled" was being built next door to you.

Would you welcome it, or would you try to stop it from being built.

You must live in a poor area for land to be cheap enough to build income based housing.
This is bullshit.

I can take you to several places around here where they built projects less than a mile from very nice housing developments.

And thefts from those places started pretty soon after the projects were populated.

No, you aren't going to have some low-income housing built nearby if you live near a bunch of movie stars, but you can live in a VERY nice development and land nearby can most certainly be bought and turned into the projects.

Yep, Cabrini-Green was built between Lincoln Park and Gold Coast.
 

preslove

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I'm not a fan of projects. I prefer individual section 8 houses and inserting affordable housing inside private apartment complexes.
 

ICRS

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I didn't ask because they are building this next door to me. I asked because I was curious.

Where I work we help finance these types of developments. We provide low interest rate loans for insert affordable housing inside priviate apartment complexes, to pure section 8 private apartment complex. With pure section 8 multiufamily housing complex I believe we give them around a 1% loan. From what I understand we CANNOT considure things like property value in the area going down when we decide to finance these projects.
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
I have an amazing idea! Let's just bulldoze all government subsidized housing for the sake of our property value. Really...it's ok that these people live on the streets no matter how old they are or how many kids they have because the more of them that there are the more they can work together to improve our great community. It's not like homeless people ever commit crimes. Oh and everyone is completely cool with living in cities where the homeless population is off the charts. That sort of thing never reduces property value so we don't have to worry about that. In fact, I think it even attracts more people to move there! These new people who love living around the crime and drug free homeless people will bring tons of profitable business and tax dollars to our town. These dollars can be used for all sorts of great things! Just think about what it will do for our children and their schools which greatly depend on this money to function properly and ensure America's future. Heck, these homeless people will even offer little Jimmy good social experiences by providing him with someone to talk to as he waits for the school bus. This idea is pure win.

Nothing to see here folks....move along. :roll:

Bluster and hyperbolize all you want, you'd be upset if something like that set up close to you and suddenly your wife got mugged, your cars windows were smashed, or your kids were pressured to buy drugs while walking home. You know it's true. Admitting it doesn't make you a bad person. You're just under the mistaken impression that it is everyone else's responsibility to pick poor people up, dust them off, and give them a life they aren't willing to work for themselves.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: paulxcook
All you self-righteous poor people lovers would be upset if it happened to you (assuming you own a house you care about).

"Are there no work houses? Are there no charities?"

Yes yes, come back with your glib attitude when you can't sell your house.

I agree. For a forum population that seems to take pride in it's anti-PC stance, the hobo love in here is astounding.


Bwahahaha! What the wealthy usually forget is that some of us are the folks who are likely to live in such a development. Wealth is not a God given right, it is not a synonym for intelligence, it is not necessarily the payout for good money management and, it is not a guaranteed result of higher education.

The wealthy can be forgiven this lack of perspective because they either have never known circumstances beyond their control or have forgotten how much luck as well as hard work it took to create their wealth. By wealth I refer to disposable income not needed for living expenses. And no, the payments for a new car, upgraded home, HDTV are not living expenses.

It is too easy to oversimplify the many factors that create poverty or wealth. Many folks worry about rising crime and lowering of property values but, I also worry about changing values in society because, I believe the root source for these problems are in our outlook on society.

The growing isolation in American society can only hasten the perceived and real downward spiral into crime, ignorance and apathy. So, what is the solution? Well, start by recognizing that regardless of your earnings, education or, place in society, the world around you is much more directly affected by the people who live in it than by any policy, law or, economic directive.

In short, people make the world go round not money.