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If you knew you would be unhappy forever. What would you do?

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bolido2000

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Every time I feel miserable people say "Don't worry things will work out soon". Then I think...of course I have hope that things will work out. Otherwise whats the point of living if I know I am going to miserable all my life? Better kill myself then 🙂
 
Well I just keep breathing.

I figure this is just a test, hopefully I'll pay my dues in this life, and the next life will be better.
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Well I just keep breathing.

I figure this is just a test, hopefully I'll pay my dues in this life, and the next life will be better.
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Not to hijack a thread or anything, but for people who truly believe in karma, is it hypocritical of them not to dish out bad karma where appropriate? Just curious.
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Well I just keep breathing.

I figure this is just a test, hopefully I'll pay my dues in this life, and the next life will be better.
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According to your philosphy, I'll be Emperor of Earth 😛

 
I would die at Mavericks. I would catch a 50 foot wave ride it for as long as I could and then let it take me. That is the way to go. Hopefully you die hehe, ill do it with weights attached to my legs.
 
Since I don't have the faith to think it's some divine plan for me to suffer, either:

(a) I'd cheat and escape your escape-proof trap, a la Cap'n Kirk.
-or-
(b) suicide.

But I'd only turn to (b) after making absolutely certain that there was nothing I could ever possibly do to end my misery. Even then I'd wait a good while longer to be really really certain.

Just saying "gee I'm depressed, better kill myself" is both lazy and stupid. There may be any number of changes that you can make in your life (possibly requiring some hard work) that will make things better.
 
I really should have a stock saved answer to this question because I'm sort of tired rewriting the same thing all the time. In fact let me look. I wrote this last night in response to a PM:

"Well I know that story. (What would happen if you lost the most important things to you) What happened to me was that I was a wise guy. I wanted to know the truth. I believed in God and I wanted to prove He existed to everybody so they would try to be good. I wanted so so much for there to be happiness and beauty and everlasting life and a reward for good. So I set out to prove the good and I found out that there's nothing, no truth, no answer, no reward, nothing but the cold benign indifference of the universe. My live went black, empty, hopeless. I could barely breath. I was a walking mass of pain. Came across Zen. Not a tile above or a place to put your foot. But they were smiling. WTF WTF's with the smile. In the middle of the night pondering over this, the wind hit the house, mind stopped, and my heart, my heart, my forgotten heart came back to me.

You know the Zen story, the one about the guy chased over a cliff by a tiger. He's hanging on for dear life (to his opinions ) and below there's another tiger. Muscles tiring he sees a strawberry growing on the cliff. He plucked it and it tasted so good.

For what I know, not much, I paid with every thing I valued. You are not your opinions, you are a chimpanzee full of piss and vinegar."

Well that's a brief version of my story. I KNEW that I would never be happy. I knew it with all my being, er, except for the part I hadn't been since I was small. A blast of wind turned me inside out. I have never suffered since and it's been a while. Now there was this instant change that revolutionizes your understanding, but you remain, in many ways the same. I am still unconscious of all my feelings and have had some opportunities to explore them. I can tell you that sadness, depression is suppressed rage, and rage is a defense against feeling hurt. We are up against a powerful opponent, the desire not to know, not to remember. I have seen people collapse into their feelings and I have done it. You cannot imagine the quantity of rage that is buried or the enormity of pain and hurt and grief that lies below. To tap into that, to know the fastness of suffering we experienced that for us today would make us laugh, did make me laugh. It's like bleeding lava out of a volcano. The relief is staggering. At our core we are joy. I met a man who had been down all the way. He was a sun.

Now there is another issue that must be carefully considered. I can't say for sure that all feelings of unhappiness are purely psychological in nature. You may have chemical depression and could greatly benefit, be enlightened by anti-depressant drugs. You should, in my opinion, at any rate get yourself evaluated by a professional. I thought of death many times in them days. I'm glad I didn't take that route. We have been made to feel bad and there isn't anything wrong with us at all. The one exception may be the chemical thing. Don't know if it's cause or effect, but that one may be easy to check and treat. Good luck to you!

 
Actually, on the Sunday after Mother's Day 1994, I said goodbye to a girl and I knew as I was driving back home I would never ever be truly happy for the rest of my life. But life goes on....
 
I always think "the sun will come out tomorrow." Seriously! It helps me sometimes 🙂 That, and the thought of sleeping with more women!
 
A friend of mine has always said he hated life. He probably still says that now out of habit. But an inkling of effort got him his first full time job earning a healthy $36k annually and he's buying things left and right and living on his own, making his own life.

You can sit around idle waiting for something good to happen to you. You must make it happen. Otherwise, do shoot yourself, but only if nobody will miss you. Otherwise (again), you're just being selfish.

Got all that ?
 
bolido2000, Usually quite a lot of kind people respond to threads like this. You have not been so lucky. Your question is rather more universal then most people are willing to admit. The crassness and shallowness you see here is, in part, a reaction to the fear facing up to the problem poses. They have nothing to offer because they are inwardly empty. One of the reactions to inner pain is the need to hurt others. Part of healing is understanding that the pain intended at you is not because of you. It's what the other person does to him or herself all the time. It's impossible to avoid, but it's nothing to take seriously.
 
Originally posted by: StormRider
Actually, on the Sunday after Mother's Day 1994, I said goodbye to a girl and I knew as I was driving back home I would never ever be truly happy for the rest of my life. But life goes on....
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I don't know...for some reason, this post really affected me. It's so specific but it ends so generally. I like it. It's genius.

Good job, but I'm sorry you're not happy.
 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Every time I feel miserable people say "Don't worry things will work out soon". Then I think...of course I have hope that things will work out. Otherwise whats the point of living if I know I am going to miserable all my life? Better kill myself then 🙂
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Depending on the situation, I have a number of different methods to deal with setbacks.

1) The Iceball theory.

One day billions of years in the future the sun as it nears using up all of it's fuel will expand. In it's expansion it will engulf the earch burning the suface to a crisp and destroying any trace that mankind was ever here. It will than collaspe in on itself leaving the earth a cold barren ball of ice.
The moral being, whatever seems so important to you now is transitory, one day it will not matter to you or anyone else. What is important is you and the here and now. Take pleasure in what you have now.

2) Rodney Dangerfield in "Back to School"

Bear with me on this one. Watch the movie "Back to School" Listen to Rodney recite Dylan's Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night. Realize that your life is a timeline. It has a beginning and an end. What matters is only what is between those two points. If you move the end up then you only shorten the time in between. There will be less of your story to write. Your story may be a comedy, a tragedy or for most people a combination of both. It's your story, write it as much as you can, enjoy what of it there is and endure and learn from the rest.


Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


Though Wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not so gentle into that good night.


Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.


Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


Dylan Thomas


The only thing that saddens me is that I will never know how the grand story of man turns out. What will this little comedy of errors and love and feeling turn out to be in the end. I only get to see my chapter and too short it will be. I hate misssing out on the ending of the book.

 
If you knew for sure it would never get anybetter? I prolly would refuse to believe it for a couple years, then just end it all by a terrible suicide of masterbation.....*what someones sig says...

 
Originally posted by: CurtCold
If you knew for sure it would never get anybetter? I prolly would refuse to believe it for a couple years, then just end it all by a terrible suicide of masterbation.....*what someones sig says...
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Hahahahah you bastage. It's 1:30am here and I just started laughing out really loud when I read that. LOL!
 
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