If you had a time machine...

[Rubycon]

The change never happened because that's how it always was, if you know what I mean.

And I was being kinda sarcastic in my other post. hehe (how can anyone "prove it?")

If you take a picture with you on a time machine - that picture remains unchanged unless it gets physically destroyed from something happening around it directly.

So if you take a picture of your family, go back to your parents' senior prom and pull the fire alarm dumping the building and shoot your "dad" dead the picture you are carrying with him is not going to change. It's just not plausible.

If you did that and went back to the present where you started from, however you can bet you things would be different. The picture, however would still be the same.

 

[sdifox]

LOL they cannot even find Bin Laden, are concerned about college students downloading telesyncs of Avatar in their dorms meanwhile malware is costing corporations billions yearly in lost revenue. Should be pretty obvious who buys out seats, eh?

Can't you buy lottery tickets online?
Heck you can play poker online connected to your bank account!

it's not the buying part, it's the claiming part. Part of the agreement is you have to agree to the promo shoot. After that it is a simple tailing exercise.

 

[Rubycon]

I'd still like to know how this would be considered a threat to national security.

Obesity in USA is more of a threat to national security.

 

[sdifox]

I'd still like to know how this would be considered a threat to national security.

Obesity in USA is more of a threat to national security.

siphoning out billions is not a national threat? how about messing with the market with the cash in hand?

 

[Rubycon]

siphoning out billions is not a national threat? how about messing with the market with the cash in hand?

It's not siphoning - a siphon depends on gravity.

What's the difference? Oh some hick wins and spends it dumb things like fast cars and liquor and real estate that are taxable? Donations are tax free!

Heck why not go after pro sports - the most grossly overpaid "occupations" in USA! Advertising slots for the superbowl are uber expensive because big companies will pay it knowing they don't pay taxes on that money! Next thing up is the Church...

oops!

At least it would not get squandered. There is nothing wrong with winning a Lottery and giving everything to charity.

 

[darkxshade]

What IF... the lottery commission also cheats by parsing all the lottery combinations bought and rigging the device to return a set of numbers for no winners or by selecting a random single winner from the set of all combinations. If you went to the future, getting the winning number then becomes pointless because no matter what numbers you buy, you won't win because there will always be someone who has the exact ticket as you and the commission is bent on picking a combination for one unique winner or no winner at all. Thus going to the future does not guarantee you a win. Paradox!!!

 

[sdifox]

It's not siphoning - a siphon depends on gravity.

What's the difference? Oh some hick wins and spends it dumb things like fast cars and liquor and real estate that are taxable? Donations are tax free!

Heck why not go after pro sports - the most grossly overpaid "occupations" in USA! Advertising slots for the superbowl are uber expensive because big companies will pay it knowing they don't pay taxes on that money! Next thing up is the Church...

oops!

At least it would not get squandered. There is nothing wrong with winning a Lottery and giving everything to charity.

the only reason the lottery is allowed to happen is precisely because the chance of repeat win is very low. Giving it to charity is not an issue either. I am doing the devil's advocate bit here since I am good at it.

 

[Rubycon]

What IF... the lottery commission also cheats by parsing all the lottery combinations bought and rigging the device to return a set of number for no winners or by selecting a random a single winner from the set of all combinations. If you went to the future, getting the winning number then becomes pointless because no matter what number you buy, you won't win because there will always be someone who has the exact ticket as you and the commission is bent on picking a combination for one unique winner or no winner at all. Paradox!!!

Yes that would prove they are cheating. With good video editing skills it would certainly be possible to fake the drawing process too. That's why you want to wait until the number is high enough but not so high that multiple winners drag your stack down. Too low and (if they were messing with it) your draw is a shill to the pot.

Of course it's easy to get caught up in all this.

If you put "what if" in front of any thing you have the power to imagine anything.

the only reason the lottery is allowed to happen is precisely because the chance of repeat win is very low. Giving it to charity is not an issue either. I am doing the devil's advocate bit here since I am good at it.

Even so they still are raking in the $$$. Folks that take annuity payments while the commission makes lots of interest OR the winner can claim a lump sum minus a nice chunk which the commission keeps. Either way they don't lose. They just don't make as much. Anger from greed is very bad. It can and will destroy civilizations.

 

[hanoverphist]

i'd go back in time with a shotgun, just so i could say

THIS.... IS MY BOOMSTICK

win.

 

[darkxshade]

Yes that would prove they are cheating. With good video editing skills it would certainly be possible to fake the drawing process too. That's why you want to wait until the number is high enough but not so high that multiple winners drag your stack down. Too low and (if they were messing with it) your draw is a shill to the pot.

Of course it's easy to get caught up in all this.

If you put "what if" in front of any thing you have the power to imagine anything.

Now that I think about it, it's not entirely unfair or cheating to say the least if they did what I am suggesting. Maybe the drawing process is only a formality for a lack of a better term to show the winner when in all likeliness, the winner had already been pre-selected through a random drawing of a ticket/tickets which includes a huge lot of "no winner" filler tickets.

For example, maybe they always select 3 tickets... It is predetermined that there should be x amount of tickets, and only x-y amount were sold so they add a y amount of "no winner" tickets to the overall pot. They select 3... if all 3 show as "no winner" they up the pot for the next drawing... rinse... repeat... until they actually select a winner/winners, etc.

This would circumvent any contamination from external influences like time travel.

 

[sdifox]

Yes that would prove they are cheating. With good video editing skills it would certainly be possible to fake the drawing process too. That's why you want to wait until the number is high enough but not so high that multiple winners drag your stack down. Too low and (if they were messing with it) your draw is a shill to the pot.

Of course it's easy to get caught up in all this.

If you put "what if" in front of any thing you have the power to imagine anything.



Even so they still are raking in the $$$. Folks that take annuity payments while the commission makes lots of interest OR the winner can claim a lump sum minus a nice chunk which the commission keeps. Either way they don't lose. They just don't make as much. Anger from greed is very bad. It can and will destroy civilizations.

No doubt about it. I am not talking about the portion you don't get.

I am talking about the concentration of the lottery winnings to one individual. Up here in Canada tax is prepaid so the lottery winning is what you get in one big cheque.

do that enough times and you suddenly have a new economical force. Now put that force under foreign control.

 

[Rubycon]

No doubt about it. I am not talking about the portion you don't get.

I am talking about the concentration of the lottery winnings to one individual. Up here in Canada tax is prepaid so the lottery winning is what you get in one big cheque.

do that enough times and you suddenly have a new economical force. Now put that force under foreign control.

Oh that's easy and already been done but they don't call it a Lottery.

 

[sdifox]

Oh that's easy and already been done but they don't call it a Lottery.

And that is why you will get bumped off. It's a very exclusive club.

 

[Rubycon]

And that is why you will get bumped off. It's a very exclusive club.

1) There's a first time for everything and...
2) Everything comes to an end - eventually.

 

[Miramonti]

If I had a time machine, I'd still be late.

 

[AdamK47]

Studies have proven that this can be done a maximum of three times.

 

[darkxshade]

Lottery aside. It would be more practical to bring back stock picks along with the proper research so that you can back up all your gains once the SEC starts knocking on your door since there's really no limit on how much much you can "win" in that regard. They'll just think you as the second coming of Warren Buffet on steroids. I'd pick some busts just to make it look less obvious.

 

[soulcougher73]

We cannot got into the future as it hasnt happened yet. only the past if we could at all. If we could that would mean life is predetermined and we have no free will. That would blow

 

[mrrman]

I wouldn't do it. Not even once. What's the point of playing the lottery if you know the winning numbers. It takes the fun out of the game.

I play to win...not to have fun....show me the $$$$$

 

[Matthiasa]

Hmm I might do this

Then to the future to see what to invest in after getting lotto numbers so I have enough money to do somethign with.
Then I would go further into the future to get get whatever immortality pill they come up with and possibly some of their technology.

 

[Jeff7]

...
The whole thing with time travel is questionable because if it were possible in the first place someone surely would have come back to our time (future's past) and done something, right? Or it's done wisely not to mess anything up and we just don't know. (yeah right!)

Simple: People from even farther into the future have come back to stop the troublesome time tourists and pranksters.

 

[FoBoT]

thrice is a good word, we don't really use it enough

 

[Rubycon]

Simple: People from even farther into the future have come back to stop the troublesome time tourists and pranksters.

Well we know that's not possible because ATOT exists today.

 

[sandorski]

I would never go into the future in a time machine... here's why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY#t=00m45s

hilarious

 

[TallBill]

Louis CK rocks. I'd go into the future 5 years and do some research on what the biggest lotto payout was for the first year, then buy the ticket for the previous day. I'd also look up good sports bets and stock market data. 5 years is relatively safe. I would win after taxes maybe 50 million and be able to make some decently large bets and investments and double it without appearing too shady. After that I'd just live like a king.