If you DON'T support militaristic action against NK, why not?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Well it worked out so well in 1950...

 

[manimal]

Mass bombing of food for the people of north korea. They are gonna have to clean their own house. Send food and books.They will get tired of it sooner or later. Sad people have to live like this.

 

[Pocatello]

Next time N. Korea fire artillery shells into S. Korea, the U.S should let S. Korea retaliate.

 

[Moonbeam]

If the winds are right we should launch small balloons with bags or rice and vegetable seeds, protein powder, medicine, and so on, that will fall all over the country. Folk will find and start to look for them. Some will have more to eat and be able to treat simple ailments.

 

[fskimospy]

If the winds are right we should launch small balloons with bags or rice and vegetable seeds, protein powder, medicine, and so on, that will fall all over the country. Folk will find and start to look for them. Some will have more to eat and be able to treat simple ailments.

Sadly if I remember correctly, individuals in North Korea found possessing items from outside countries like you mention would be imprisoned or worse.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I am totally against NK however its like Syria what possible good outcome could we reasonably expect to end up with after paying a heavy price. I now believe that when the US gets involved in foreign countries we generally do more harm than good lately.
To me the only rational way is what we are doing even though its cruel. Essentially withhold food and medicine until there is an uprising or they become such a pain in the ass to China that they end up demanding changes.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Sadly if I remember correctly, individuals in North Korea found possessing items from outside countries like you mention would be imprisoned or worse.

And I'm sure that the NK government would also make sure to alert the citizens to the "poison" dropped by the Americans and that eating any of it will result in a very unpleasant death.

 

[werepossum]

And I'm sure that the NK government would also make sure to alert the citizens to the "poison" dropped by the Americans and that eating any of it will result in a very unpleasant death.

And probably add its own poisoned packets to make sure they get the point.

 

[Sonikku]

I think I'd take the poison packets sooner than live under Kim.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sadly if I remember correctly, individuals in North Korea found possessing items from outside countries like you mention would be imprisoned or worse.

Well maybe precooked rice that could be eaten on the spot.

 

[Thebobo]

Next time N. Korea fire artillery shells into S. Korea, the U.S should let S. Korea retaliate.

The US should let?

 

[rommelrommel]

The US should let?

I see your point but we all know that any SK military response will be vetted by the US as long as 30k US soldiers are there and the US is essentially bound to SK if NK escalates.

 

[BUnit1701]

Sadly if I remember correctly, individuals in North Korea found possessing items from outside countries like you mention would be imprisoned or worse.

Including some AKs and loaded magazines might help that situation...

 

[fskimospy]

Including some AKs and loaded magazines might help that situation...

I guess it depends on whether or not we are trying to get a lot of innocent people killed.

 

[Doppel]

What is north korea doing that dozens of other nations are not?

If you support striking NK, what about china? China has a much worse human rights record than NK. China is increasing its military budget.

What about Iran? Last week Russia announced it might build a nuclear reactor in Iran in exchange for oil.

Even Saudi Arabia has a terrible human rights record.

No, it doesn't. Beyond the fact that China is absolutely insurmountable as a reasonable task, its human rights record in recent years is on a completely different playing field than NK's. Absolutely, massively, completely different. Dito for Iran, Saudia Arabia, and country you can think of that sucks in some significant way for human rights NK outdoes them all handily. Also, China at the least is making continual and meaningful strides to eb a less crappy country to live in. Why upset the apple cart?

the longer this goes on, the funnier it gets. NK keeps saber rattling while their saber is really a butter knife.

NK represents NO threat to the US worth mentioning. It is indeed a pissant sabre rattler as far as the US is concerned, but it is destroying the lives of millions of people. They may not be US citizens, but they are human beings, all part of the same species.

Unfortunately, many in the US failed to dissociate from the misinformation against the United Nations. It is not some independent world entity with its own power to enforce.

I know the UN can't tell its members what to do nor does it have a standing army. The security council should be taking care of this. The UN was setup to ensure this kind of nonsense doesn't happen and we all as a human race have let it go on.

I would only support the use of US air and naval forces, not the use of American troops. Let other countries risk their soldiers for a change. And keep in mind, I've said before that I believe the US would take NK out in a matter of days or weeks, not months, and yet I still don't want to risk our men or pay for an occupation.

I wonder what would happen if a large bombing campaign just took out their leadership and as much of their war machine as possible, then let everybody there pick up the pieces. Who knows...

If the winds are right we should launch small balloons with bags or rice and vegetable seeds, protein powder, medicine, and so on, that will fall all over the country. Folk will find and start to look for them. Some will have more to eat and be able to treat simple ailments.

Some in SK are already doing this I recall reading very recently that there are some chocolate cakes, like Western moon pies or whatever they are called, that are dropped in there and/or smuggled and a high demand item in NK.

 

[rudder]

No matter what atrocities the government of NK has committed.... China would still stand behind them if the U.S. were to attack.

China would then cut off our supply of iphones, antibiotics, rare earth metals, and a multitude of other gadgets that China has become the sole supplier of.

So Kim Jong Un can continue to kick babies till he drops.

 

[BoberFett]

Spreading freedom and democracy does not work. The people have to want it enough to claim it for themselves.

What would happen if NK was invaded? Would the populace welcome the invaders bringing them freedom? Or would they think the invaders were the enemy, bringing destruction and spreading lies about Dear Leader? And what would they do with democracy? Install another dictator?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Spreading freedom and democracy does not work. The people have to want it enough to claim it for themselves.

What would happen if NK was invaded? Would the populace welcome the invaders bringing them freedom? Or would they think the invaders were the enemy, bringing destruction and spreading lies about Dear Leader? And what would they do with democracy? Install another dictator?

^^^THIS!^^^

 

[Nebor]

There's nothing that can be done. The North Korean people love their leaders. Short of killing everyone in the North (and causing the death of everyone in the South, and plenty of Japanese) we have no move.

 

[rommelrommel]

Including some AKs and loaded magazines might help that situation...

Not sure if making farcical post about gun control or just clueless...

 

[Jaskalas]

Maybe. Certainly that would be a lot better for the South Koreans, but we'd still kill an awful lot of North Koreans to save them. War is and always will be an ugly, nasty business, and not to be taken lightly even with an overwhelming technological advantage.

I know it's not a clear choice. Yet it remains something I could approve of given the right circumstances. When weighing the untold death and suffering the dictator will unleash upon future generations. It's a measurement of how much pain they suffer in an instant VS prolonged, if not eternally. Who knows what century will see the end of NK.

Right now our, my, chief concern is protecting South Korea and others from retaliation. I can see a day where we are capable of guaranteeing that protection. Where we will rule the sky and prevent all ordnance or missiles which make attempt upon the innocent.

Not saying we'll use that power wisely.

 

[werepossum]

I know it's not a clear choice. Yet it remains something I could approve of given the right circumstances. When weighing the untold death and suffering the dictator will unleash upon future generations. It's a measurement of how much pain they suffer in an instant VS prolonged, if not eternally. Who knows what century will see the end of NK.

Right now our, my, chief concern is protecting South Korea and others from retaliation. I can see a day where we are capable of guaranteeing that protection. Where we will rule the sky and prevent all ordnance or missiles which make attempt upon the innocent.

Not saying we'll use that power wisely.

I don't think we'll ever see that day in general, for defensive weapons always lend offensive advantage and thus must be countered. If one's likely opponent has the defensive ability to stop everything you can throw at him, that means he has a safe first strike capacity, so you must find a counter or be at his mercy. However, G-d willing we'll be at that point with regards to North Korea within a couple decades. Assuming we can afford to keep financing our military anyway.

 

[sourn]

We do nothing. I mean seriously what are we gonna do. It would take the world powers (the ones that don't openly do this) all to have to step in. As it's not just one country, unless you believe that NK is the only one that pulls crap like this.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Apparently China won't even sign off on this matter going to the security council.

Hence the identity of the biggest problem. China. Chinese protection is the only reason why the North Korean regime has not yet been taken out. For some reason China has a use for North Korea and its current regime.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

Hence the identity of the biggest problem. China. Chinese protection is the only reason why the North Korean regime has not yet been taken out. For some reason China has a use for North Korea and its current regime.

Yep. Nothing will be resolved without China on this matter.