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bononos

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Raduque said:
And you get owned by wannacry, don't cry... You only brought it on yourself by being opposed to forced updates!

Suckers.
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Only older versions of windows is affected - Win8 and earlier, so Win10 is safe.

I've disabled windows update on my slower Win10 pc since it can become excessively slow and rely on 3rd party AV to catch things. I prefer to let other people be the guinea pigs for bigger feature updates and its worked out well for me.
 
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bononos

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How are these being hacked? I'm kinda curious, as there's not really any attack vector I can think of unless you do something retarded like put the admin interface on the outside.
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Probably from backdoors in manufacturer firmware like the recent Asus/Huawei issues. Or poorly customised Telco firmware with backdoors built in, hardcoded passwords, etc to simplify maintenance. Or could just be a simple case of users not knowing how to change the default admin password.
 
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John Connor

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How are things hacked? The router or the hack attempts that fail at my website? I see tons of admin and WP-login requests from infected routers in my Apache logs from all around the world.
 
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John Connor

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bononos said:
Probably from backdoors in manufacturer firmware like the recent Asus/Huawei issues. Or poorly customised Telco firmware with backdoors built in, hardcoded passwords, etc to simplify maintenance. Or could just be a simple case of users not knowing how to change the default admin password.
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The FTC took particular issue with the AiCloud and AiDisk services offered by Asus. With AiCloud, owners could plug a USB hard drive into their router and use it as a mini cloud storage device – but so, it seems, could everyone else.
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I never did trust that cloud bullshit. I have Asus Merlin, but even then I wonder how secure that crap is? I feel like uodating to DD-WRT like I had before. I bought this router from eBay that had Merlin already, but it looks like a pain to get DD-WRT on here.
 
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ch33zw1z

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So you've deviated from the topic, make stupid all encompassing statements which I questioned you on, then retort with a wiki link to support your claim that "soho" is an area in England (and btw, the link also include Manhattan NYC), and you're trying to test others for their intelligence.

I'm not entirely sure why you're not on my ignore list, but congrats you made it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoHo,_Manhattan
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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bononos said:
Only older versions of windows is affected - Win8 and earlier, so Win10 is safe.

I've disabled windows update on my slower Win10 pc since it can become excessively slow and rely on 3rd party AV to catch things. I prefer to let other people be the guinea pigs for bigger feature updates and its worked out well for me.
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Not sure why they're stating this, when Microsoft themselves released a series of patches to fix this specific vulnerability in Win10. From a cursory internet search, there's also tons of references specifically to people removing it from Win10. I wonder if that's just an errant entry on their page?
 
sm625

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It is quite the conundrum. Let windows update run, so it can ruin my network connections, or dont let it run, and get infected.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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sm625 said:
When I installed the creator's update it destroyed my network connections. (All 3 network adapters would not connect.) I reverted to a backup and disabled windows update service.
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I find that very fishy. How did it destroy the connections? Also, what does your routing look like for 3 network connections? The route table might have gotten wiped/rebuilt and was sending traffic the wrong way, or something.
 
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sm625

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I have no idea. And I'm not doing microsuck's job for them. Two of the network adapters were set to static addresses. I set them to DHCP and connected my main network cable to each of them. None of the would connect. I cant be the only one who is going to have this problem so I will just wait a few months for it to be fixed.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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sm625 said:
I have no idea. And I'm not doing microsuck's job for them. Two of the network adapters were set to static addresses. I set them to DHCP and connected my main network cable to each of them. None of the would connect. I cant be the only one who is going to have this problem so I will just wait a few months for it to be fixed.
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Were these connected to the same network or something? As long as your router/whatever is functioning properly it should just pass out the lease. Most I've ever had to do to get Windows DHCP working is to pass it a restart after plugging in a NIC (that's only rarely).

This isn't likely to be something 'fixed', as it's not broken. Win DHCP client has been as solid as any other OS for a decade. You might just have to troubleshoot some.
 
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bononos

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[DHT]Osiris said:
Not sure why they're stating this, when Microsoft themselves released a series of patches to fix this specific vulnerability in Win10. From a cursory internet search, there's also tons of references specifically to people removing it from Win10. I wonder if that's just an errant entry on their page?
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Theres other technet articles which say explicitly that Win10 is not vulnerable. Because I think SMBv1 was disabled from Win8 onwards. I can't be bothered to find out now since every google hit about smb seems to be about the wannacrypt worm.

If Win10 is patched, its for the better. Microsoft is probably fed up and wants to kill SMBv1 for good.
 
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Raduque

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sm625 said:
I cant be the only one who is going to have this problem so I will just wait a few months for it to be fixed.
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You could. This is not a common issue listed anywhere in Windows 10 Creator's Update discussions.
 
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