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If you died today, would you be let into Heaven?
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MercenaryForHire
Lifer
Firstly, blasphemy is funny.
Maybe you should learn to read text other than that which is contained in a book starting with "B" and ending in "ible". Read what you said about using facts to back up a statement instead of unproven and currently unprovable hypothesis. Now, make that massive leap in competency to the fact that I just posted that quote of yours in a thread where you're going off on yet another one of your damned religious zealotfests.
Get it yet?
No, I have nothing wrong with Flyermax's link to a hardcore porn site in his sig - he can go right ahead.
- M4H
wasn't the uncertainty principle the heisenberg uncertainty principle? (relationship of ability to know velocity and location based on quantum theory)
the main thing schrodenger was know for, in terms of uncertainty, was the schrodinger's cat paradox... simply stating that in a system based upon probablities, until you stop that system the "state of the system" in indeterminate
in terms of the philosophy of science, there is lots of arguing, there are no absolutes... only hypotheses, theories, and laws
yes we have data, but what does it show/prove?!
we're trying to understand the nature of the universe, by examining bits and peices, and piece together the puzzle with the data we record...
nothing is completely absolute, a law (the most certain thing we have), is simply something that, without known exception, behaves as we expect and can predict
example:
experiment trying to prove G-d
1. Go to Egypt
2. hit a rock with a stick
-does water come out?
repeat step 2 (many, many times)
does this prove (or disprove) G-d? no, we don't have anything exactly right (we're not in ~1000BC, we're not moses, etc)
but it helps to prove that, as we can explain the universe, water cannot come from a rock upon being hit w/ a stick
as for me, i'm goin' to hell (7th circle, round 3, stretched out on burning sand)
(me = chemistry major, working in a lab right now)
the main thing schrodenger was know for, in terms of uncertainty, was the schrodinger's cat paradox... simply stating that in a system based upon probablities, until you stop that system the "state of the system" in indeterminate
in terms of the philosophy of science, there is lots of arguing, there are no absolutes... only hypotheses, theories, and laws
yes we have data, but what does it show/prove?!
we're trying to understand the nature of the universe, by examining bits and peices, and piece together the puzzle with the data we record...
nothing is completely absolute, a law (the most certain thing we have), is simply something that, without known exception, behaves as we expect and can predict
example:
experiment trying to prove G-d
1. Go to Egypt
2. hit a rock with a stick
-does water come out?
repeat step 2 (many, many times)
does this prove (or disprove) G-d? no, we don't have anything exactly right (we're not in ~1000BC, we're not moses, etc)
but it helps to prove that, as we can explain the universe, water cannot come from a rock upon being hit w/ a stick
as for me, i'm goin' to hell (7th circle, round 3, stretched out on burning sand)
(me = chemistry major, working in a lab right now)
Flyermax2k3
Diamond Member
blah blah blah M4H hates Christians blah blah blah Christians are idiots blah blah blah
BTW, I had *no* idea there was any porn at the site in my sig link, sorry about that 🙁 It's been removed though.
Flyermax2k3
Diamond Member
No, that would make G-d a hypocrite. You pagans don't seem to understand that for this universe to even exist G-d's word has to be true. If G-d were to go back on His word, that would make Him a hypocrite, and this universe would cease to exist.
matt426malm
Golden Member
Yah, infallaibility but you only "believe" he is infalliable.
WinkOsmosis
Banned
I don't know who G-d is. But what the hell are you talking about? For the universe to exist, "G-d's" word has to be true? That's pretty circular. That's like if I say that I am God, and for the universe to exist, I must be God.
PidalaedaEpi
Banned
Religion in all of it's forms is a fear based way for humans to try and understand what is actually going on here on planet earth. It's the non active form of science, I suppose. Xtianity and it's stupid big black book are probably the biggest reasons why humanity has failed to gain any sort of momentum towards further evolution. Religion is for sheep who do and act like others in order to feel that they belong or believe in something. It's been the cause of a spiralling down of humanity for the longest time.
If you understood or have done any research whatsoever on subatomic particles you will come to an understanding that the life force that is "God" is in everything. And that you don't need to believe in anything other than that to be "saved". And with this connection to your own subatomic particles and the subatomic particles of everything else you can create what you want in your lives.
One of the coolest damn things I've seen recently was the movie Bruce Almighty. Towards the end the god figure tells bruce that instead of looking outside of themselves humanity should just start creating the outcomes that they desired. "Be The Miracle" was the phrase.
That's what it's all about. If we all stopped being "Crying out for Jesus" gimps then we could all start to take back the power and create a future which would "empower" everyone. No bible or sunday black suit necessary. Just molding the future from the core of our hearts.
That's my .02 cents. Peace! And as the others said before me, Heaven is a state of mind. I suggest you all find it now and not wait for it.
If you understood or have done any research whatsoever on subatomic particles you will come to an understanding that the life force that is "God" is in everything. And that you don't need to believe in anything other than that to be "saved". And with this connection to your own subatomic particles and the subatomic particles of everything else you can create what you want in your lives.
One of the coolest damn things I've seen recently was the movie Bruce Almighty. Towards the end the god figure tells bruce that instead of looking outside of themselves humanity should just start creating the outcomes that they desired. "Be The Miracle" was the phrase.
That's what it's all about. If we all stopped being "Crying out for Jesus" gimps then we could all start to take back the power and create a future which would "empower" everyone. No bible or sunday black suit necessary. Just molding the future from the core of our hearts.
That's my .02 cents. Peace! And as the others said before me, Heaven is a state of mind. I suggest you all find it now and not wait for it.
Cerb
Elite Member
1. Maybe, assuming you a) believe in God, and b) believe in people spending eternity in Hell. That and there being one being called Satan are both mistranslations (it's the eternity bit for Hell...God's chosen get in first, the rest roast until they're purged and all). Given the time frame, they could very well have both been intentional mistranslations.
2. OK, but you really need to define sin in this context.
3. Then its no wonder there will only 144,000 people.
4. Tables chairs and oaken chests would have suited Jesus best. he;d have caused nobody harm--no one alarm. 😀
Anyway...if that's the case, why should we be worried? If he died for them it's already taken care of, right?
5. Putting your faith in any thing or being is not free. It takes great force of will, because it involves giving up control of your own decisions to some one or thing else. In addition, you're to have faith in something that does not show itself to you, whose main organization over the last fifteen hundred years has not been the nicest, and you're supposed to believe all of this stuff just because someone else says so? Sorry, but that's not too convincing. Your list portrays a God who is anything but just--denying paradise to people simply because of the way he created them and the way they grew up.
If it is up to me, then #3 and #5 may be eliminated. If they remain, then it is not up to me. I never made a choice not to have faith...I just realized one day that I had never had it and had simply been going through the motions. In additon, each sect of Christianity defines sins differently...so that can get very wierd.
A pointless question.
If I could think like god and possibly know the answer as the OP request's then of COURSE i would be "let into" heaven, but I'm mortal so I have no way of knowing.
A better question would be, "do you believe you lead a moral life" which is not fraught with the inflammatory religious context.
If I could think like god and possibly know the answer as the OP request's then of COURSE i would be "let into" heaven, but I'm mortal so I have no way of knowing.
A better question would be, "do you believe you lead a moral life" which is not fraught with the inflammatory religious context.
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