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If you could add another tax - what would it be?

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dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.

In another thread you said you want to see all of the 3 domestic auto manufacturers out of business. How is that saving the U.S.? :confused:

Now you're going to tax people you have no authority to tax? buahahaha The Kool Aide mix is strong today. :D

I've yet to see anything you've ever stated show that you can or want to save the U.S.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I would implement a plan to lower taxes for engineers and scientists who have graduate degrees.

NO! We're not lowering taxes. This is about increasing taxes.
 

Engineer

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War tax. You want war, EVERYONE pays their EQUAL share to support it including rebuilding funds and any other fund associated with the war. No borrowing for the war, completely funded by EXTRA taxation 100%.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Engineer
War tax. You want war, EVERYONE pays their EQUAL share to support it including rebuilding funds and any other fund associated with the war. No borrowing for the war, completely funded by EXTRA taxation 100%.

What is the distribution scale? Fixed amount from every citizen, percentage based, progressive, etc. ?
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Engineer
War tax. You want war, EVERYONE pays their EQUAL share to support it including rebuilding funds and any other fund associated with the war. No borrowing for the war, completely funded by EXTRA taxation 100%.

By your own criteria, this nation would never have been founded.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: smack Down

Yes, but every one pays that tax. I would double the tax on any car that is over 6,000 gross weight.

They use double the gas; thus, pay double the tax.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: zendari
That $40 billion was taxed when it was first earned. You want to continuously tax the same money year after year?
Yes, that is the plan.

Of course as we gradually roll in the wealth tax, the income tax could be rolled out (eliminating your first complaint). But, yes the same money will be taxed over and over again until (a) it is spent into the economy, (b) donated to charity, or (c) taxed away. That is why this particular tax plan has a cutoff. Below that cutoff, the money is yours to do as you please.

 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: smack Down

Yes, but every one pays that tax. I would double the tax on any car that is over 6,000 gross weight.

They use double the gas; thus, pay double the tax.

Fine make them pay quadruple the tax over all and twice the tax on the gas.
 

EatSpam

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Tax on using non-U.S. labor. If your company prefers to use illegal immigrant or overseas labor for products and services to be sold in America, you can pay an additional 50% tax to offset the cost of unemployment and retraining for unemployed and underemployed Americans.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: smack Down

Yes, but every one pays that tax. I would double the tax on any car that is over 6,000 gross weight.

They use double the gas; thus, pay double the tax.

I can see that would hurt alot of businesses that need vehicles over that weight. Why not just raise the tax on gas for everyone and then have the motor vehicle departments rebate money back on people who have cars that are registered that are under that weight.

So if your license fees are $250 this year, maybe you get a $25 credit.

edit: i don't like that idea... maybe take that money and forget it, taxing isn't an efficient means of achieving any goal.
 

kleinwl

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What gas guzzler tax? anything labeled a "truck" (ie PT cruser) has lower gas standards... and anything over 6,000lb is a commerical vehicle and doesn't have to pay a gas guzzler tax.

The only people paying gas guzzler taxes are BMW/Ferrari/exotics that have low fuel economy.

BTW: No one has commented on the oversea tax shelter taxes. I think that's a great idea! The average corporation pays almost no tax in the US. It is so easy to avoid corporate tax by sending your profits overseas that no foreign held company based in the US ever makes a profit. They end up paying for "services" from the parent company that somehow is exactly the same as their expected profit. hmmm.

This is total bs... the same bs that is happening in california where after 4 years, you are no longer required to pay your back taxes... even if the IRS caught you red-handed and in the process of prociuting you (as you might know any court case can take years to complete).
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: kleinwl
BTW: No one has commented on the oversea tax shelter taxes. I think that's a great idea! The average corporation pays almost no tax in the US. It is so easy to avoid corporate tax by sending your profits overseas that no foreign held company based in the US ever makes a profit. They end up paying for "services" from the parent company that somehow is exactly the same as their expected profit. hmmm.

I don't think it's sending money overseas, as much as it's not bring back foreign profits to the U.S. If a corp has domesitc revenue, they will pay taxes. They can't send that money away to avoid it. However, if they earn money outside the U.S., they aren't required to bring it back.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: smack Down

Yes, but every one pays that tax. I would double the tax on any car that is over 6,000 gross weight.

They use double the gas; thus, pay double the tax.

I can see that would hurt alot of businesses that need vehicles over that weight. Why not just raise the tax on gas for everyone and then have the motor vehicle departments rebate money back on people who have cars that are registered that are under that weight.

So if your license fees are $250 this year, maybe you get a $25 credit.

edit: i don't like that idea... maybe take that money and forget it, taxing isn't an efficient means of achieving any goal.

I call BS on that claim. Other then white vans any businesses that is over that wait is diseal and they already pay more taxes.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.

In another thread you said you want to see all of the 3 domestic auto manufacturers out of business. How is that saving the U.S.? :confused:

Now you're going to tax people you have no authority to tax? buahahaha The Kool Aide mix is strong today. :D

I've yet to see anything you've ever stated show that you can or want to save the U.S.

Ditto

WHYDTTSTUS?

What have you've done today to save the U.S.? :confused:
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Ditto

WHYDTTSTUS?

What have you've done today to save the U.S.? :confused:

First, I don't go around bragging about how I want to run for office and how I'm going to save the country from peril. That is you. Clearly you can't even say what you've done or what you will do. And what you claim in contrary to your belief.

If you must know, I've saved millions of American jobs.
 

techs

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I'd tax religious hypocrites. Ten percent seems to be the biblical standard. I would use it to help poor people. Another Biblical idea.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: techs
I'd tax religious hypocrites. Ten percent seems to be the biblical standard. I would use it to help poor people. Another Biblical idea.
:cookie: I think a troll tax would be almost as beneficial, and 10x as satisfying..
 

her209

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Sex tax. There are too many people having and enjoying sex. This includes teenagers.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I would implement a plan to lower taxes for engineers and scientists who have graduate degrees.

NO! We're not lowering taxes. This is about increasing taxes.

Fine, increase taxes for everyone else :D
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: zendari
That $40 billion was taxed when it was first earned. You want to continuously tax the same money year after year?
Yes, that is the plan.

Of course as we gradually roll in the wealth tax, the income tax could be rolled out (eliminating your first complaint). But, yes the same money will be taxed over and over again until (a) it is spent into the economy, (b) donated to charity, or (c) taxed away. That is why this particular tax plan has a cutoff. Below that cutoff, the money is yours to do as you please.

Technically most of Bill Gates' money is 'spent' into the economy. Most of his money is put into investments which help foster growth of companies. It's not like he has $39.5 billion in cash lying around. Should rich people just stop investing money over $500 million?
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: zendari
That $40 billion was taxed when it was first earned. You want to continuously tax the same money year after year?
Yes, that is the plan.

Of course as we gradually roll in the wealth tax, the income tax could be rolled out (eliminating your first complaint). But, yes the same money will be taxed over and over again until (a) it is spent into the economy, (b) donated to charity, or (c) taxed away. That is why this particular tax plan has a cutoff. Below that cutoff, the money is yours to do as you please.

Technically most of Bill Gates' money is 'spent' into the economy. Most of his money is put into investments which help foster growth of companies. It's not like he has $39.5 billion in cash lying around. Should rich people just stop investing money over $500 million?

No they should just make sure they make more intrests then the wealth tax.