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If you could add another tax - what would it be?

SagaLore

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If you could add another tax, or increase a tax, what would it be, and who would be included and who would be excluded?
 

K1052

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A tax on elected officials that pass laws to create more/new taxes.

 

dullard

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Wealth tax. If you got a lot of stuff, you pay the tax. I really don't care what form of wealth tax as it is all the same to me. Of course the easiest forms are those that are already in numerical format (property values, stocks, bank accounts, etc).
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: dullard
Wealth tax. If you got a lot of stuff, you pay the tax. I really don't care what form of wealth tax as it is all the same to me. Of course the easiest forms are those that are already in numerical format (property values, stocks, bank accounts, etc).

What is the threshold? How wealthy once the tax kicks in?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

Neat. How do you enforce it?
 

JacobJ

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A post count tax.

For each flame posted, you lose 20 posts in your post count. For each nef you lose ten. If your post count hits zero, you get banned for a month.

For each racist or bigotted post you lose anywhere from 50 to 5000.


Heres to the army of mod's waiting to enforce it :beer:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

Neat. How do you enforce it?

Not a problem.

Would have plenty of resources because I would not have the Country fighting a phoney War over WMD that doesn't exist.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Would have plenty of resources because I would not have the Country fighting a phoney War over WMD that doesn't exist.

Your power is limited to simply designing a new tax, and having the current government implement it. You're still you as you are now.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)
 

Future Shock

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A tax on corporate profits that are funneled overseas to escape US taxes, either through tax havens or via overseas subsidiaries that provide "services" that are really phoney accounting gimmicks to send their money there. This is a HUGE problem for the US Treasury, as our tax laws are designed to operate on companies that provide goods here and are taxed here. It's so rampant that when I set up a small consulting company, the company that helped me establish it started giving me advice immediately on how to set up an overseas bank account via another company I could set up offshore and send all my income there. And they could help me do all that in 30 days for only a few thousand $ - right off the shelf.

I didn't do it - I paid my US corporate and personal taxes in full (minus legal deductions). Too bad Accenture, Staples, and a host of other major US companies don't feel like playing by the same rules...and the rest of us all have to make it up. BTW - THAT is one reason why it is becoming increasingly harder for entrepranuereal companies to compete with the big boys - they have better means of paying no taxes...this is NOT conducive to free enterprise.

Future Shock
 

zendari

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We already have too many taxes and too many types of taxes. But if I had to add one it would be a fast food/obesity tax.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I would Tax illegals

At east get some money out them since we're not sending them back home.

They send all the illegal money they get back home, time to get a piece of the pie.

How? They're illegal, so they're not "in the system", i.e. we can't track them.

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)

Bahahahaha , do you pay attention? Of course not.

It's as cheap as the cost of cell phones and laptops. Try again.

I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)

Bahahahaha , do you pay attention? Of course not.

It's as cheap as the cost of cell phones and laptops. Try again.

I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.
Care to share this tracking technique, or would that be asking too much?

Perhaps you plan to give each and every "illegal" his own cell phone and laptop when he crosses the border? Genius!
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
What is the threshold? How wealthy once the tax kicks in?
Well that all depends on how much of other taxes we want to cut. You could have it starting at $0 and ramp on up from there. But I don't want to start this as anything drastic. Hmm, lets say the cutoff should start at say $500 million (if you have less than $500 million worth of stuff, you aren't taxed at all by this tax). Those who have more than $500 million are taxed that at a rate of 1% per year (for everything over $500 million, the first $500 million is still exempt). That'll probably net us right around $10 billion dollars per year, enough to pay the entire costs of the IRS. Good for starters. It'll cut the yearly deficit by 2-3% right of the bat.

For example, if Bill Gates has a net worth of $40 billion, then he pays a 1% tax on everything over $0.5 billion. So he would owe a tax of 1% on $39.5 billion. His wealth tax would be $395 million/year. This is of course, in addition to the other taxes he currently pays.

After seeing how this works for a few years, then we can drop that limit and slowly cut other taxes to keep everything even.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: dullard
Wealth tax. If you got a lot of stuff, you pay the tax. I really don't care what form of wealth tax as it is all the same to me. Of course the easiest forms are those that are already in numerical format (property values, stocks, bank accounts, etc).

Kentucky already has a similar tax called something like the "personal tangible property" tax. The problem is that just about everybody ignores it and the state rarely enforces it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)

Bahahahaha , do you pay attention? Of course not.

It's as cheap as the cost of cell phones and laptops. Try again.

I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.
Care to share this tracking technique, or would that be asking too much?

Perhaps you plan to give each and every "illegal" his own cell phone and laptop when he crosses the border? Genius!

Logan's Run

Every illegal snared I would have processed with the technology.

Good enough for our pets and that family in Florida, good enough for the illegals.
 

Titan

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I'd make a tax tax.

Government that wants to tax people would have to pay a tax. That way, tax officials understand the pain taxes cause people. Also, they'd have to raise funds if they wanted a new tax. No using the tax tax money to fund your new tax!

Maybe this isn't such a good idea.

I'd give up this right if we all paid a tax ti have complete accountability of the rest of our tax money and how it is ultimately used by the govt, and why.
 

cKGunslinger

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Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)

Bahahahaha , do you pay attention? Of course not.

It's as cheap as the cost of cell phones and laptops. Try again.

I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.
Care to share this tracking technique, or would that be asking too much?

Perhaps you plan to give each and every "illegal" his own cell phone and laptop when he crosses the border? Genius!

Logan's Run

Every illegal snared I would have processed with the technology.

Good enough for our pets and that family in Florida, good enough for the illegals.

Uhh.. if you can track them down and "implant" them with conventional means, WTF does your system do? :confused:

Hey, I have a cool idea about how to make everyone in America a millionaire. First, we give everyone a million dollars... :p
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dullard
Well that all depends on how much of other taxes we want to cut. You could have it starting at $0 and ramp on up from there. But I don't want to start this as anything drastic. Hmm, lets say the cutoff should start at say $500 million (if you have less than $500 million worth of stuff, you aren't taxed at all by this tax). Those who have more than $500 million are taxed that at a rate of 1% per year (for everything over $500 million, the first $500 million is still exempt). That'll probably net us right around $10 billion dollars per year, enough to pay the entire costs of the IRS. Good for starters. It'll cut the yearly deficit by 2-3% right of the bat.

For example, if Bill Gates has a net worth of $40 billion, then he pays a 1% tax on everything over $0.5 billion. So he would owe a tax of 1% on $39.5 billion. His wealth tax would be $395 million/year. This is of course, in addition to the other taxes he currently pays.

After seeing how this works for a few years, then we can drop that limit and slowly cut other taxes to keep everything even.

That $40 billion was taxed when it was first earned. You want to continuously tax the same money year after year?

 

KevinH

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

That is not true. I can track each and every one of them right now.

We have the technology.

I'd be willing to bet than any system that can find, track, and monitor each and every illegal alien in the US would cost about 100x as much money to operate as you could ever get from their pockets.

Remind me again in 2008 not to vote for you, in case I forget. ;)

Bahahahaha , do you pay attention? Of course not.

It's as cheap as the cost of cell phones and laptops. Try again.

I'm only interested in the votes of folks that are interested in saving the U.S. so I would not expect your vote.
Care to share this tracking technique, or would that be asking too much?

Perhaps you plan to give each and every "illegal" his own cell phone and laptop when he crosses the border? Genius!

Logan's Run

Every illegal snared I would have processed with the technology.

Good enough for our pets and that family in Florida, good enough for the illegals.

Uhh.. if you can track them down and "implant" them with conventional means, WTF does your system do? :confused:

Hey, I have a cool about how to make everyone in America a millionaire. First, we give everyone a million dollars... :p


Lol.