If you can do 40 hours of work in a 20 hour period, shouldn't you get the rest of the week off?

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hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: effowe
It's not fair but that's how it is, you need to learn to work slower and less efficiently so that you can spread out your work like the others.

or redefine the amount of work that can be completed in a 40 hour week.
 

xboxist

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This is the entire premise of the first meeting with "the Bobs" in Office Space.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
You're paid by time, not production. If you want to get paid by production then find a job that does that.

Only if you're paid hourly. If you're paid salary then you're paid to do a job, regardless of how long it takes you.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I went from a "hard-money" construction environment where every job was bid closely to working for a public utility as their crane operator.

For a couple of years, I was "GO-GO-GO! Let's get this shit done!"

Finally, after the crews kept complaining that I was working them too hard...and getting called into the boss's office and told "We get paid by the hour here...just take it easy," I finally did...sort of.

It never did set well with me, and I only lasted 7 years in a job that was supposed to be a life-long job till I retired.

The common attitude was "This work isn't bad...if we get done too quickly, the next job we get sent to might suck...just slow down and make it last." :roll:

on the flip side, my bonus is directly affected by jobs lasting longer than necessary. if i can get the project completed a week early and under cost for the labor, the margins go up that much. this is for the whole company, not just the salaried management, but the mgmt side is a bit sweeter. we dont rush our crews too badly, people get burnt out and fuck up too much if you do. we do keep them on task and point out when they are dropping behind tho. we are mostly a bid company as well, margins live or die on those small mishaps and miscalcs.
 

irishScott

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No. It just means you're more productive than everyone else, which may under the right circumstances get you a promotion.

It also gives you a little lax space. If you want to take a break and neff for a little, you can do so without worrying much about repercussions (depending on how strict your employer is about these things).
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
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on the flip side, my bonus is directly affected by jobs lasting longer than necessary. if i can get the project completed a week early and under cost for the labor, the margins go up that much. this is for the whole company, not just the salaried management, but the mgmt side is a bit sweeter. we dont rush our crews too badly, people get burnt out and fuck up too much if you do. we do keep them on task and point out when they are dropping behind tho. we are mostly a bid company as well, margins live or die on those small mishaps and miscalcs.

In the early 80's, the company I was working for had a construction job in the sprawling metropolis of Tonopah Nevada.

For whatever reason, the entire crew they had on that site went to jail...and put the company in a terrible bind. No one wanted to go to Tonopah...hot, dirty, in the middle of nowhere...so the company offered me and my ironworking crew a deal.

They had the job bid for completion in 4 months. If we could finish it sooner, we'd continue to get paid 6-10's for the entire 4 month period, PLUS we'd have our regular jobs back when we finished.

Hell, I didn't want anyone to know I couldn't add...so we took the job.

Finished that building in 6 weeks, working 7 days per week, 12 hours per day.

We got all the appropriate overtime for the time we were there, then we went back to our regular job, worked 5 and 6-10's PLUS got paid for 6-10's on the other job for the next 2-1/2 months.

That made a sweet "bonus" for all of us.
 

spidey07

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Peter Gibbons: Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.
 

AreaCode707

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There is no universal standard for how much work can be done in a 40 hour period. The company's job is to hire people that can get as much done in 40 hours as possible. People will not be equal (some will take 36 hours, some 42, to get the same work done) and the company's job is then to get rid of the people that under perform (someone who takes 60 hours a week to do the same work) when they can replace them with somebody more efficient.
 

TuxDave

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I work 60hrs a week, accomplishing what some scrubs would take 120hrs.... but you don't see me taking off two weeks out of every three.
 

nerp

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I wish I had a job where I was judged on the time I spent on things and not the end product. I have a weekly deadline and have to write compelling stories for publication. All they want from me is solid copy, not X hours or time spent. Man, if all I had to worry about was showing up, life would be a lot less stressful.

I'd probably be bored as hell and making a lot less money, though.