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If you buy illegal drugs you're supporting terrorism?

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<< And let's also not forget--let's not forget, Dude--that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city-- that isn't legal either. >>

Great quote, Jeffery!
 
Red Dawn - I 100% agreed with the commercials. Cops and judges do get killed every day by the criminals who sell drugs to the criminals who buy them. It is obvious that it must have hit a nerve based on the whining in this thread.

Don't think for a second that the local dealer who grows his own pot is some how innocent. Organized crime knows who they are and it usually isn't long until protection money is being paid or a bullet ends the local dealer's business. Criminal bike gangs run much of the meth trade in the US. The drug lords in Columbia (cocaine) are terrorists in their countries.

This isn't a debate about whether drugs should be legal. Take that up in local elections and vote for those who want to make it legal if that's your goal. However, they are illegal and buying drugs 100% means supporting terrorists in my mind. That's why I don't do and haven't done drugs. I drink and used to smoke, so it isn't some anti-high routine. It is knowing that drive-by's kill innocnet children every year. That cops die every day because of the violence that the illegal drug trade causes.

Michael
 


<< Don't think for a second that the local dealer who grows his own pot is some how innocent. Organized crime knows who they are and it usually isn't long until protection money is being paid or a bullet ends the local dealer's business. >>

LOL I'm sorry, but I severely doubt that the majority of pot growers are being hunted down by organized crime. There isn't even any serious money IN selling pot, they go the hard expensive stuff.

<< This isn't a debate about whether drugs should be legal. Take that up in local elections and vote for those who want to make it legal if that's your goal. However, they are illegal and buying drugs 100% means supporting terrorists in my mind. That's why I don't do and haven't done drugs. I drink and used to smoke, so it isn't some anti-high routine. It is knowing that drive-by's kill innocnet children every year. That cops die every day because of the violence that the illegal drug trade causes. >>

The ONLY reason why people are giving money to terrorist factions is because of necessity. This is more proof that the drug war does more harm then good. Next you'll be blaming the marijuana users for filling up the prison cells...
 


<< Red Dawn - I 100% agreed with the commercials. Cops and judges do get killed every day by the criminals who sell drugs to the criminals who buy them. It is obvious that it must have hit a nerve based on the whining in this thread.

Don't think for a second that the local dealer who grows his own pot is some how innocent. Organized crime knows who they are and it usually isn't long until protection money is being paid or a bullet ends the local dealer's business. Criminal bike gangs run much of the meth trade in the US. The drug lords in Columbia (cocaine) are terrorists in their countries.

This isn't a debate about whether drugs should be legal. Take that up in local elections and vote for those who want to make it legal if that's your goal. However, they are illegal and buying drugs 100% means supporting terrorists in my mind. That's why I don't do and haven't done drugs. I drink and used to smoke, so it isn't some anti-high routine. It is knowing that drive-by's kill innocnet children every year. That cops die every day because of the violence that the illegal drug trade causes.

Michael >>



Well, then its your job as a voter to let your government know that this silly prohibition is creating the same sort of problems that the alcohol prohibition caused (and still causes, in the USA. I just can't get over the fact that you can get killed in combat but you can't have a beer! They obviously have problems with turning-21 bingers and underage drinking, why don't they follow the europea example). Legalize it and there's no more reason for cops to waste their time arresting pot smokers or getting killed while hunting drug dealers. Then they can fight all the murderers and rapists out there.
 


<< Red Dawn - I 100% agreed with the commercials. Cops and judges do get killed every day by the criminals who sell drugs to the criminals who buy them. It is obvious that it must have hit a nerve based on the whining in this thread. >>



Michael, if you've paid taxes in the last 20 years you've supported terrorism too. While it might not have been those who were friendly to the US who were terrorized, there's no argument the right wing Death Squads in South and Central America were supported with funds from the US Government .. our money. They were just as Brutual as the Hamas and Hezbollah if not more. American Taxpayers Money has killed a lot more innocent people that any drug money!!!

I totally reject their assertion that anybody who uses illeciut drugs supports terrorism. Hell most can barely support themselves!

I wonder if the wonderful American John Ashcroft had anything to do with that totally BS Commercial?
 
Red Dawn - I think my taxes for the last 10 years only (the 10 before that were paid to Canada and I don't think Canada spends money). I won't argue the point about "right wing death squads". I don't agree with it, but it has nothing to do with the ad.

I thought the ad did very well in hopping between the statements like 'I kill cops" and "I just want to have fun". It was an attempt to get people to take responsibility for their actions. I think the statements like the one's about the "right wing death squads" are just attempts to distract the posts from the facts.

The fact is that buying illegal drugs supports criminals. The illegal drug trade is very violent and has many direct links to terrorists. You're not just getting an innocent high from some pot, you're killing cops, judges, and innocent children. You can try to avoid the point, but it remains.

Michael
 


<< The fact is that buying illegal drugs supports criminals. The illegal drug trade is very violent and has many direct links to terrorists. You're not just getting an innocent high from some pot, you're killing cops, judges, and innocent children. You can try to avoid the point, but it remains. >>

You're not just getting from point A to point B by driving a car, you are causing thousands of car accidents daily and killing immense amounts of people. You're not just satisfying your hunger when you eat that cheeseburger, you are causing obesity in all of America, and killing thousands of people through heart attacks. You can avoid these points, but it remains
 
"We're losing the war on drugs. You know what that implies? There's a war, and the people on drugs are winning it. What does that tell you about drugs?" - Bill Hicks
 


<< won't argue the point about "right wing death squads". I don't agree with it, >>

Hey dems da facts. If it wasn't for the US Government supporting those bastards they wouldn't be as prevelent in places like Columbia.

Those commercials reminds me of that game 4 connections(something like that) to Kevin Bacon. It seems that every modern Actor,Producer or Director can be linked to Kevin Bacon in some sort of way if you include other actors, producers or Directors he or his wife worked with.
 


<< I wonder if the wonderful American John Ashcroft had anything to do with that totally BS Commercial? >>



You think?
I'd bet the farm on it 😉
 


<< You're not just getting from point A to point B by driving a car, you are causing thousands of car accidents daily and killing immense amounts of people. You're not just satisfying your hunger when you eat that cheeseburger, you are causing obesity in all of America, and killing thousands of people through heart attacks. You can avoid these points, but it remains >>



Nice try, but driving a car and eating a cheeseburger are not criminal acts. You're not taking money and giving it to criminals. Other than a certain style resemblance, my statement and yours are not the same.

Red Dawn - I'm not discussing the "right wing death squads" comment because it really is moot to the current topic.

Michael
 


<< Red Dawn - I'm not discussing the "right wing death squads" comment because it really is moot to the current topic. >>

Well if American Taxpayers supporting Terrorism is moot to the topic of Americans supporting terrorism then fine, have it your way.
 
Red Dawn - I think it's moot in reference to buying illegal drugs = supporting terrorism. I, of course, do not control who or what gets posted on the boards and in this thread. I'm just not going to discuss it in this thread. I'm interested in seeing how you can justify dealing with criminals to buy drugs and discount to very real and constant violence that goes along with that type of criminal.

Michael
 


<< Nice try, but driving a car and eating a cheeseburger are not criminal acts. You're not taking money and giving it to criminals. Other than a certain style resemblance, my statement and yours are not the same. >>

You are saying a product is bad because when you buy it, your money goes to terrorists. You dislike the terrorists because they kill innocent people. Whether it is legal or not is invalid if the situation held. Now, when you go buy a cheeseburger, your money goes to the company that made that cheeseburger. This fuels the company, allowing it to open more franchises and have more people eat their cheeseburgers. These cheeseburgers in turn make people unhealthy, and prone to diseases. Other then the rate at which these things work and the fact that one is legal and the other isn't, my statement and yours are the same

<< Red Dawn - I think it's moot in reference to buying illegal drugs = supporting terrorism. I, of course, do not control who or what gets posted on the boards and in this thread. I'm just not going to discuss it in this thread. I'm interested in seeing how you can justify dealing with criminals to buy drugs and discount to very real and constant violence that goes along with that type of criminal. >>

It is not a moot point. You are saying that buying drugs indirectly fuels terrorism. So did paying taxes. 'Nuff said
 
I can't help think about the 60's and 70's when the counter culture was getting wasted and protesting the WAR in Viet Nam, while all the time the CIA was using DRUG money to support some of it's covert Op.'s

So in a way by using (SOME) drugs they were helping to support the same war they were protesting.

I'm not real sure what point I'm trying to make here, just something to think about I guess. But I find it ironic that the same government that has funded WAR'S from the drug trade has the Ball's to even SAY something like this!

But I also remember some of the stuff I was told as a kid. When it turned out to be Bull $hit, it made me wonder about OTHER things "They" said. These ad's in my opinion can lead to the same thing.

I think the avarage American use's their brain a LOT more than the governement would like to think (and thank GOD for that!)
When Kids start learning that you can't believe everything Big Brother say's, they will start doubting EVERYTHING he say's. And ad's like this are and open invitation to start doubting.

As I said earlier. I didn't see the ad, so I don't know what was stated exactly. But if they said "you are" and not "you MAY", then the ad is total and unadulterated Bull $hit. And whomever thought it up and ran it should be ashamed of themselves.
 
okay... By the government saying... selling drugs is supporting terrorism... I can slightly understand with respect to opium, which Afghanistan is a main supplier of. However, do you really think the 'allies' of the US in Afghan soil are 100% not involved? Not that I support the Taliban... but under the Taliban, opium was BARELY being grown. I predict in the next few years, opium will be flooding the world... =(

Another thing... Let's say I go out and buy a few tabs of x... How the heck is that supporting terrorism? ecstacy mainly originates from Denmark where it is basically mass produced.... errrrrr..... Or I buy some weed... It's grown right here uuhh... in someone I know's backyard...

So... 'don't buy drugs cause it supports terrorism' is the biggest crock of buuulll i have heard. It's just another attempt by the government to stop kiddies from taking em....
 


<< I stared blankly at the screen when i saw this commercial... this is anti drug propoghanda at it's finest. >>



I don't get it...how come everybody loves anti-smoking commercials and hating smokers and everything...but when it comes to drugs (esp. marijuana), everyone's cool?
 


<<

<< Since most of the terrorist funding comes from rich oil sheiks, the commercial should have said :"If you buy gasoline, you are supporting terrorism."
But that would be telling the truth, and we can't have that, can we??? >>



Gawd, why do clueless rednecks have to post here? >>



Uh...what would be the truth then? Please, I'd like to hear it from someone who "has a clue"
 


<< infos, as I have mentioned before, you are true white trash.

The USA does not buy (and if it does, its very little) from Pakistan and there are no oil rich sheiks in Pakistan. >>



Muslim countries in the region have close-knit economies...Egypt, Pakistan, etc. get lots of money exporting labor to the oil countries, trading with the oil economies, and so on.



<< Some of you people are blinded by the BS propoganda against foreigners. >>



Yes, it would seem that some Americans in the press don't like foreigners but about half do...Qatar's Al Jazeera is the most progressive media source in the region *by a longshot*. Read that sometime to get the *good* extreme...Read Al-Ahram, Al-Hayat, etc. to get the median opinion.



<< There are many oil rich sheiks who invest in the USA and Europe and who have nothing but utmost respect for these countries. I can name a few if you want...but you wouldn't have a clue as to who they are. >>



Name them for me. Hopefully, I might have a "clue" as to who they are. For each one, I'll show you 5 of their anti-US counterparts... 🙂
 


<< The bottom line as I see it is.
Some drugs ARE bad.
Some drugs MAY in some way support some bad guys some where.

But the key word is SOME.

To make a blanket statement such as this ad made is just FALSE. And it makes you wonder about ALL statements made by the same people that promoted such and ad. (very few people are THAT stupid as to buy a blanket statement such as this, and if they start questioning that statement whats next?)

If they want to be taken seriously, they should NOT play such silly games. >>



Yes, but if you do buy drugs, you do support *some* terrorism, you do support *some* bad guys, you do kill *some* babies (or whatever, I didn't pay that much attention to it).

I don't think they expect you to believe that all buying of all drugs supports all terrorism.
 


<< I can't believe no one has said this yet, but
In the words of the hero Todd Beamer, as said again by George W. Bush:
Let's Roll!
(Oh, that's not what he meant?) >>



Woah...
 


<< Uhhh, then I guess they SHOULDN'T have said it HUH? >>



Here's a diagram of sorts. Note that the numbers don't mean anything

-Sources of funding for terrorism-
(A) Something (50%)
(B) Something else (49%)
(C) Us buying drugs (1%)

-Final destination for drug money-
(A) Something (33%)
(B) Something else (33%)
(C) Yet another thing (33%)
(D) Terrorism (1%)

Anyhow, the commercial says "Buying drugs contributes money to terrorist stuff." With the nutty numbers I made up, if you spend $100 on drugs then you just contributed a buck to terrorists. On the same note, when a Colombian judge gets blown up by a hundred-dollar bomb, you also paid your $1 share of it.

.·. Buying drugs contributes money to terrorist stuff

There ya go 😉
 
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