If you bought a cd from a used cd store, and EAC couldn't copy it w/o errors, would you return it?

[BigToque]

I think the title says everything

Edit

Just for the record, I haven't bought anything. I'm just asking what you guys would do in this hypothetical situation.

 

[mugs]

I guess it depends on their return policy.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: mugs
I guess it depends on their return policy.

Well, they would only be selling used cd's that weren't damaged. If EAC is finding errors they sold you a damaged cd. They should take it back without question.

 

[Shawn]

n/m.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: mugs
I guess it depends on their return policy.

Well, they would only be selling used cd's that weren't damaged. If EAC is finding errors they sold you a damaged cd. They should take it back without question.

For the same title I would guess no?

 

[Strk]

I'd check to find some songs that show the errors. Otherwise, there might be issues returning it (I.e. they'll just say "wtf, this asshole just copied it and is returning it).

 

[Kelemvor]

Does it play ine a normal CD player or does that skip and cause problems as well?

 

[Pepsi90919]

i'm pretty sure you're shafted in this case.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: mugs
I guess it depends on their return policy.

Well, they would only be selling used cd's that weren't damaged. If EAC is finding errors they sold you a damaged cd. They should take it back without question.

For the same title I would guess no?

I would trade it for the same disc. As long as I got a disc that EAC could read w/o problems I'd be happy.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Strk
I'd check to find some songs that show the errors. Otherwise, there might be issues returning it (I.e. they'll just say "wtf, this asshole just copied it and is returning it).

EAC shows exactly where the error is. The error's aren't always audible though...

 

[myusername]

FWIW, if it causes a problem for EAC, you can see it on the disc. Hold it up in front of a bright light and look for pinholes in the metallic layer. Ususally happens if it gets dropped on a rough surface, like asphalt.

This has happened to me twice, and I just listen to the clip with the error (EAC will mark a couple seconds around that section and allow you to play it). In both cases, I didn't hear any distortion, so I saved the flac and called it good.

If the error was audible, and I was planning a trip to buy more cd's I would take it back and get a credit, but otherwise I would probably just eat the $6.00 - Not worth a trip by itself.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: Strk
I'd check to find some songs that show the errors. Otherwise, there might be issues returning it (I.e. they'll just say "wtf, this asshole just copied it and is returning it).

EAC shows exactly where the error is. The error's aren't always audible though...

It's a used CD. You're paying a lot less than you would for a new CD, expecting it to be perfect is a little unreasonable. If there are no audible errors, who cares?

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: Strk
I'd check to find some songs that show the errors. Otherwise, there might be issues returning it (I.e. they'll just say "wtf, this asshole just copied it and is returning it).

EAC shows exactly where the error is. The error's aren't always audible though...

It's a used CD. You're paying a lot less than you would for a new CD, expecting it to be perfect is a little unreasonable. If there are no audible errors, who cares?

I'm pretty anal like that

I've just decided to look at the cd's that I'm getting errors with and do what myusername just said. If I can't hear the error, I'll just ignore it. I don't like doing it though

 

[Leros]

Another hypothetical: you buy a used cd, planning to put it on your mp3 player, but a few songs have errors. Would it be ok to download them off p2p?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: JToxic
Another hypothetical: you buy a used cd, planning to put it on your mp3 player, but a few songs have errors. Would it be ok to download them off p2p?

Of course, you paid for it.

 

[narutofan36]

yes

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: mugs
I guess it depends on their return policy.

Well, they would only be selling used cd's that weren't damaged. If EAC is finding errors they sold you a damaged cd. They should take it back without question.

:laugh:

Ahhhhh, the naive.

Some CD "protection" schemes include sector layouts that make most disc copying software crap out because of errors. Either that or the FUBAR sectors are actually part of the hash so that when windows or other burning software attempts to correct the errors automatically, the game still won't run because the hash doesn't match up.

 

[sandorski]

IME, a CD that can't be ripped by EAC or other ripping software won't Play either. You have a greater chance of ripping a CD than Playing it.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: mugs
I guess it depends on their return policy.

Well, they would only be selling used cd's that weren't damaged. If EAC is finding errors they sold you a damaged cd. They should take it back without question.

:laugh:

Ahhhhh, the naive.

Some CD "protection" schemes include sector layouts that make most disc copying software crap out because of errors. Either that or the FUBAR sectors are actually part of the hash so that when windows or other burning software attempts to correct the errors automatically, the game still won't run because the hash doesn't match up.

Well, the CD's I'd be buying are all from 1995 and older. I doubt they have the type of protection you are talking about.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: BigToque
Well, the CD's I'd be buying are all from 1995 and older. I doubt they have the type of protection you are talking about.

You'd be right.

 

[Mday]

Originally posted by: JToxic
Another hypothetical: you buy a used cd, planning to put it on your mp3 player, but a few songs have errors. Would it be ok to download them off p2p?

ethically speaking, it's fine. legally speaking, greyzone. of course according to the RIAA, you're not allowed to buy used CDs or rip any CDs into mp3s, even if you bought the CD.