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If you bought a car that's not American, then you are a traitor!

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morkinva

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posit: <U>Since you didn't buy American, you are not supporting American workers, American companies (</U>no such thing anymore<U>) and you are selling out just to get something with better quality and value. To blazes with everyone else, they can buy the American pieces of junk, my one purchase of a foreign car isn't going to matter. My Honda was made in Marysville, Ohio so it's kind of an American car anyway. Other people are buying foreign cars so why not me too?

This is in line with the 'group mentality' (like with an angry mob) wherein people suddenly lose their values and relinquish them to the group and therefore they feel they are not responsible anymore for their actions. I am more likely to break a window if there's a mob with me doing the same thing.

"But this is good for competition"; it will make American automakers get their asses in gear and start making quality products so that they may compete. A copout if I ever heard one.


</U>But it turns out competition is good, even if your self-serving purchase was rationalized by this fact. Competition fosters lower prices, better quality and envy among your neighbors (capitalism).

People will always do things that are in their own self-interest, even if it means putting their country second. Besides there are plenty of Americans employed in foreign car dealerships and factories. "Buy American" seems to be a phrase promoted by unions and governments for tax purposes.

If you've purchased a foreign car, America forgives you 😉 [/flamesuit]
 
Interesting how my Toyota Tundra is the only full size truck to be assembled by American workers. GMC and Ford use Mexico and Canada as labor sources, respectively.
 
Thank you, Captain America. Our country's Homeland Security Policy has been substantially strengthened by your ardent display of patriotism. Here, have a cookie.
 
a majority of parts on an American car are made by foreign companies anyway.

i have a domestic, not by choice, but by necessity. i will be buying foreign from here on out.
 
well, i think people exaggerate things like this. when you buy foreign cars, that means more american dollars are going to go to foreigners. and guess where people spend american money? that's right, america.
 
Originally posted by: WombatWoman
Arguing with oneself is an early sign of a Thorazine deficiency. 😉
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Hahaha !!!!! I can't go to work today,the voices told me to stay home and clean the guns 😀
 
wtf? what side are you on, buying import for better quality or buying domestic in spite of any (potential) problems? I dont get it. 😕
 
Originally posted by: baffled2
Originally posted by: WombatWoman
Arguing with oneself is an early sign of a Thorazine deficiency. 😉
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Hahaha !!!!! I can't go to work today,the voices told me to stay home and clean the guns 😀
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Neener neener, all those people who hate me are just jealous because my voices won't talk to them... 😛

 
Oops, sorry! I forget to include the part where I said the underlined section is how I used to feel 😱

LOL @WW's Thorazine comment!😀
 
Originally posted by: morkinva
Oops, sorry! I forget to include the part where I said the underlined section is how I used to feel 😱
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Glad to hear that! I'll put away the straitjacket that I had ready for you.

But you'll probably still need the flamesuit. 😉

 
Did you know that Made in the USA is true if only a single part of the item is made in the USA...True story, I worked in the clothing industry and the way it worked was the cotton was produced in the US and moved overseas for cheap labor and assembling...also for adding those Made in the USA labels.

I'll have you know I buy all my stuff from these wonderful American companies that produce their goods in sweatshops overseas...Not..

It's all about quality, whether it be American, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, or Taiwanese...
 
*blink* *blink*. The subject seems contratictory to the body of the message...
There are hardly any cars actually made in America. In almost all cases, the components are built in other countries, then exported to the US where they are assembled into the final product.
 
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Interesting how my Toyota Tundra is the only full size truck to be assembled by American workers. GMC and Ford use Mexico and Canada as labor sources, respectively.
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Tell that to the US AUTOWORKERS in Flint, Michigan who volunteered their time to build several GMC 3500 heavy duty Crew cab pickups to send to the N.Y fire dept in the Aftermath of 9/11 to replace some of the vehicles thy lost.

G.M. has several factories producing full size trucks in the U.S. Canada and Mexico. I can think of 2 of them within a half hour of my home. The gmc heavy duty 3500 crew cab (truck of the year) is built in Flint, Michigan. There is also a full line of c/k pickups built in Pontiac, MI as well. here is a list showing all the truck group facilites and the location. the majority are plainly domestic. whoever told you yhat the Tundra was the only full size pickup built in the US is full of it.


Truck Group
Arlington, TX Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickup/utilities
Baltimore, MD Chevrolet, GMC M/L
Doraville, GA Chev, Pontiac, Olds, Opel U
Flint, MI Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Fort Wayne, IN Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Janesville 1, WI Chevrolet, GMC C/K Utilities
Linden, NJ Chevrolet, GMC S/T (2)
Moraine City, OH Chevrolet, GMC, Oldsmobile S/T (utilities)
Oshawa, Canada Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Pontiac, MI (East) Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Shreveport, LA Chevrolet, GMC S/T (pickups)
Silao Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickup/utilities
Toluca Chevrolet C/K-P/up,MD,P
Wentzville, MO Chevrolet, GMC G

 
Originally posted by: NesuD
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Interesting how my Toyota Tundra is the only full size truck to be assembled by American workers. GMC and Ford use Mexico and Canada as labor sources, respectively.
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Tell that to the US AUTOWORKERS in Flint, Michigan who volunteered their time to build several GMC 3500 heavy duty Crew cab pickups to send to the N.Y fire dept in the Aftermath of 9/11 to replace some of the vehicles thy lost.

G.M. has several factories producing full size trucks in the U.S. Canada and Mexico. I can think of 2 of them within a half hour of my home. The gmc heavy duty 3500 crew cab (truck of the year) is built in Flint, Michigan. There is also a full line of c/k pickups built in Pontiac, MI as well. here is a list showing all the truck group facilites and the location. the majority are plainly domestic. whoever told you yhat the Tundra was the only full size pickup built in the US is full of it.


Truck Group
Arlington, TX Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickup/utilities
Baltimore, MD Chevrolet, GMC M/L
Doraville, GA Chev, Pontiac, Olds, Opel U
Flint, MI Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Fort Wayne, IN Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Janesville 1, WI Chevrolet, GMC C/K Utilities
Linden, NJ Chevrolet, GMC S/T (2)
Moraine City, OH Chevrolet, GMC, Oldsmobile S/T (utilities)
Oshawa, Canada Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Pontiac, MI (East) Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickups
Shreveport, LA Chevrolet, GMC S/T (pickups)
Silao Chevrolet, GMC C/K pickup/utilities
Toluca Chevrolet C/K-P/up,MD,P
Wentzville, MO Chevrolet, GMC G
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my ford was built in chicago.

all f-bodies are from ontario. but we'll forgive, canada is almost the US anyway.
 
Buying an American car (especially one made in America with a high percentage of American made parts) does do more for the American economy than buying a foreign made car. Think about it. You buy an American car, the profits from selling you that car go to an American company which pays taxes to the US government who in turn provides services to the American citizen. If you buy a foreign car even if it's made in America the profits from selling you that car go to a Foreign company that pays taxes to their country which in turn provides services to the citizens of that country, not our country. Mind you if you buy a Japanese companies car most likely those Japanese will travel here and spend money on American goods, but they will still spend more of their money on goods made in their own country.
The problem comes in with the technology and quality of the cars. If an American looks at a car from an American company and one from a foreign company and those two cars were of the same quality, technology, looks, etc. The American will pick the American car almost every time. Problem comes in that while American car companies have gotten better so have foreign companies. When one looks at midsize automobiles they will oftentimes look at cars like the Honda Accord, Ford Taurus, Toyota Camry, and a few others.
Mind you the Toyota Camry is ugly and handles like a boat so we will ignore this car. 😛
When you put a Ford Taurus and a Honda Accord side by side though the Accord does tend to offer a little bit more in build and quality. The buyer wants a car that holds up and the Accord has more of a rep for that, so they give their money to a foreign car company.

Personally I'm beginning to believe the best value is a late model used domestic car. :/
 
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I suppose free trade is only good if it increases our wealth and not someone else's? Free trade in a capitalist system means to me 'who gives a crap who you buy it from, buy the best for your needs and desires' - afterall, with capitalism, isn't it the manufacturers responsibility to convince the buyer that they are better off with their product, and one of the ways to do that is to produce a superior product? By buying a Honda, I'm only supporting these values of this capitalist economy, including principles of free trade - anything else would be un-american. 😀😛
 
Autoworkers are paid about $80 an hour. It takes 30 hours to assemble a car. That means that only $2,400 of - typically priced - $25,000 car go into assembly costs. The rest of the money is split between parts, and developement/corporate costs. When you buy a Honda that's made in Ohio, most of that money goes straight to Japan. In contrast, if you buy a General Motors car that's made in Canada, even though $2,000 goes to Canada, most of the money is going to go to American engineers, stockholders and also North American companies that make the parts for the cars.

Importing capital goods and raw materials (like oil, airplanes, high precision machinery, etc.) can be good, because those things typically create further economic growth (increased productivity, etc.). But importing finished consumer goods (like cars), especially when your own country is perfectly able to churn them out, can lead to trouble. America's trade deficit is extremely unhealthy, and is probably going to cause a massive collapse of the U.S. dollar within the next 5 to 10 years. I think the government's best bet to slowly discourage imports by cutting interest rates, and doing a gradual devaulation of the dollar.
 
bah, if they really cared about their "country" they would place heavy taxes on oil. perhaps tax SUVs and trucks heavily. exceptions for companies and farmers etc that really need utility vehicles of course, just weed out the suburban excursion owner that likes to commute alone in their monster vehicle😛 encourage gas savings/lowering emissions. lowering our dependence on foreign oil a little, clearing our air a little... 😛 force advertisers to put made in "xxxxxx" stickers on their cars. many an american car would be "made in mexico" 😛



its that or go to war and seize all oil fields from the bastids in the middle east, and nuke the rest. thats not gonna happen anytime soon😛
 
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