If you became President...

[Crackle19]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
where in new orleans? lived in gentilly for 4 years while at seminary.

South of New Orleans, LaPlace, but I attend LSU currently.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Crackle19

Originally posted by: johnnobts
where in new orleans? lived in gentilly for 4 years while at seminary.

South of New Orleans, LaPlace, but I attend LSU currently.

ahhh, good 'ole SEC football baby!

 

[Crackle19]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Crackle19

Originally posted by: johnnobts
where in new orleans? lived in gentilly for 4 years while at seminary.

South of New Orleans, LaPlace, but I attend LSU currently.

ahhh, good 'ole SEC football baby!

Indeed! The buzz around here is the NCAA tourney though, but I don't go to the basketball games. On the other hand, alcohol laws in Louisiana become non-existant on LSU gameday, therfore 90,000 of your closest friends pack tightly in a drunken stupor and await Mike's growl. Nothing better than SEC football. Hands down, the SEC delivers the best athletes each and every year.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Crackle19

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Crackle19

Originally posted by: johnnobts
where in new orleans? lived in gentilly for 4 years while at seminary.

South of New Orleans, LaPlace, but I attend LSU currently.

ahhh, good 'ole SEC football baby!

Indeed! The buzz around here is the NCAA tourney though, but I don't go to the basketball games. On the other hand, alcohol laws in Louisiana become non-existant on LSU gameday, therfore 90,000 of your closest friends pack tightly in a drunken stupor and await Mike's growl. Nothing better than SEC football. Hands down, the SEC delivers the best athletes each and every year.

UT alum myself... ALLLLL VOLLLL! As ESPN once described gameday in Knoxville: "250,000 drunk screaming rednecks dressed all in orange..."

ok, sorry for off-topic replies...

 

[judasmachine]

I wouldn't apologize, but I'd mend some of the fences we've burned over the last few years.

 

[piasabird]

What did we do to France?

Maybe we should apologize for the Fact that we Liberated them in World War II. Is that what you are talking about?

They should be glad that we like to buy their french wine.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

We quite clearly remembered their friendship and assistance when we liberated them in WWII, more than 150 years later. So no, we never forgot. Even now, if the French asked for our assistance in handling an invader, we'd very likely be first in line to help them... again... regardless of their total lack of support in the ME and proven collusion with our enemies!

so what is YOUR point? who was it that has forgotten who their friends are again, just 60 years later? oh ya...

Come on, a war expert like yourself knows this just is not true. America did forget about France

Sept 3, 1939 - Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand declare war on Germany.
Sept 5, 1939 - United States proclaims neutrality; German troops cross the Vistula River in Poland
Sept 10, 1939 - Canada declares war on Germany; Battle of the Atlantic begins
June 3, 1940 - Germans bomb Paris; Dunkirk evacuation ends.
June 14, 1940 - Germans enter Paris.
Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor
Dec 8, 1941 - United States and Britain declare war on Japan.
Dec 11, 1941 - Germany declares war on the United States.
Jan 26, 1942 - First American forces arrive in Great Britain
June 6, 1944 - D-Day landings.

156,000 American, British and Canadian troops met heavy resistance from the German forces defending the area, but were able to punch inland, securing safe landing zones for reinforcements. The German failure to successfully defend the Normandy area from the Allied liberation forces in essence doomed Hitler's dream of a Nazi controlled "Fortress Europe" and marked the beginning of the end for Germany.

The Allies liberated France, not America alone. Somewhere, somehow, most Americans have come to believe it was America alone. I think movies have to do with it, I really hope your not taught that in school. Don't ever try to say this * America saved the world* stuff on a British board

Originally posted by: johnnobts
see, a long time ago a bearded man passed a law than outlawed slavery. if memory serves, i think he was a republican... flash forward 200 years and now today, another republican president opening doors for african americans like colin powell, condi rice, etc.

Aren't those Republicans now closer to the Democratic party of today?

Originally posted by: johnnobts

I just don't see how me saying, "On behalf of my Great, Great, (great) grandpa (who happened to be a KKK Democrat but never owned a slave) I apologize to all the blacks.

And these KKK Democrates now the Republicans?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: palehorse74

We quite clearly remembered their friendship and assistance when we liberated them in WWII, more than 150 years later. So no, we never forgot. Even now, if the French asked for our assistance in handling an invader, we'd very likely be first in line to help them... again... regardless of their total lack of support in the ME and proven collusion with our enemies!

so what is YOUR point? who was it that has forgotten who their friends are again, just 60 years later? oh ya...

Come on, a war expert like yourself knows this just is not true. America did forget about France

Sept 3, 1939 - Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand declare war on Germany.
Sept 5, 1939 - United States proclaims neutrality; German troops cross the Vistula River in Poland
Sept 10, 1939 - Canada declares war on Germany; Battle of the Atlantic begins
June 3, 1940 - Germans bomb Paris; Dunkirk evacuation ends.
June 14, 1940 - Germans enter Paris.
Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor
Dec 8, 1941 - United States and Britain declare war on Japan.
Dec 11, 1941 - Germany declares war on the United States.
Jan 26, 1942 - First American forces arrive in Great Britain
June 6, 1944 - D-Day landings.

156,000 American, British and Canadian troops met heavy resistance from the German forces defending the area, but were able to punch inland, securing safe landing zones for reinforcements. The German failure to successfully defend the Normandy area from the Allied liberation forces in essence doomed Hitler's dream of a Nazi controlled "Fortress Europe" and marked the beginning of the end for Germany.

The Allies liberated France, not America alone. Somewhere, somehow, most Americans have come to believe it was America alone. I think movies have to do with it, I really hope your not taught that in school. Don't ever try to say this * America saved the world* stuff on a British board

Originally posted by: johnnobts
see, a long time ago a bearded man passed a law than outlawed slavery. if memory serves, i think he was a republican... flash forward 200 years and now today, another republican president opening doors for african americans like colin powell, condi rice, etc.

Aren't those Republicans now closer to the Democratic party of today?

Originally posted by: johnnobts

I just don't see how me saying, "On behalf of my Great, Great, (great) grandpa (who happened to be a KKK Democrat but never owned a slave) I apologize to all the blacks.

And these KKK Democrates now the Republicans?

Britain would have gone broke or been strangled by German submarines without Lend Lease (something like 75% of the debt was forgiven). We haven't forgotten about the other allies (or some of us anyway) but give credit where credit is due. Without US war material and forces Europe would never have been retaken.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: K1052
Britain would have gone broke or been strangled by German submarines without Lend Lease (something like 75% of the debt was forgiven). We haven't forgotten about the other allies (or some of us anyway) but give credit where credit is due. Without US war material and forces Europe would never have been retaken.

Oh absolutely, like I said it was an Allied effort. Alot of Americans also joined the Canadian and British forces before America got involved militarily.

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It's these comments

Originally posted by: johnnobts
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage." -Donald Rumsfeld

That was just funny tough. Seriously, when was the last war France actually even won?

Seriously, when was the last war America actually even won?
Alot of Americans seem to forget the people fighting along side them when it comes to claiming victories

 

[UptheMiddle]

No. In fact, I think that the worthless and corrupt UN should be dissolved, all the while exposing the deep seated corruption....after which, France could apologize to the US and England.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: UptheMiddle
No. In fact, I think that the worthless and corrupt UN should be dissolved, all the while exposing the deep seated corruption....after which, France could apologize to the US and England.

Even though most of the corruption falls on the American side, that is ignored. The U.N. is treated and talked about like its some evil foreign country, when its convient. Then it's used as a talking point when it supports what you need.

The report also found that individuals and companies in the United States accounted for 52% of all oil-voucher kickbacks paid to Saddam Hussein. The largest of these recipients, Houston based Bayoil and its CEO, Bay Chalmers have been indicted by the US Department of Justice for their actions.

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[hans007]

well if i were president i'd never have insulted france.


if say i was drunk or high or somehow incapacitated or not myself the day i had insulted france then on a sober day yes i'd apologize.


that said bush is an idiot.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think that going from a moron like Bush to a President who would apologize for his would create more cognitive dissonance than the world could handle.

Pretty much.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: K1052
Britain would have gone broke or been strangled by German submarines without Lend Lease (something like 75% of the debt was forgiven). We haven't forgotten about the other allies (or some of us anyway) but give credit where credit is due. Without US war material and forces Europe would never have been retaken.

Oh absolutely, like I said it was an Allied effort. Alot of Americans also joined the Canadian and British forces before America got involved militarily.

edit-

It's these comments

Originally posted by: johnnobts
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage." -Donald Rumsfeld

That was just funny tough. Seriously, when was the last war France actually even won?

Seriously, when was the last war America actually even won?
Alot of Americans seem to forget the people fighting along side them when it comes to claiming victories

Well, the most recent one in Iraq comes to mind in conventional terms. It's the peace that is giving us a hard time. And yes, I know that the Brits and the Aussies helped.

We always catch flack about this same thing from the British, but come on. If anyone cracks a history book they would see that England won more than it's share of victories.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
The Allies liberated France, not America alone. Somewhere, somehow, most Americans have come to believe it was America alone. I think movies have to do with it, I really hope your not taught that in school. Don't ever try to say this * America saved the world* stuff on a British board

Thank you sir! I was going to say something similar but I would have been flamed. This stuff really grates on the Brits - we stood alone against the nazis for a long time before the Americans decided to help. And when you finally realised you couldn't stay neutral any longer we both played an equal part in D-day! There were 73,000 soldiers and 53,000 sailors from America, and 62,000 soldiers and 113,000 sailors from Britain.

And no-one should ever forget the massive contribution of the Russians. More Russian citizens died than all the other nations put together.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
The Allies liberated France, not America alone. Somewhere, somehow, most Americans have come to believe it was America alone. I think movies have to do with it, I really hope your not taught that in school. Don't ever try to say this * America saved the world* stuff on a British board

Thank you sir! I was going to say something similar but I would have been flamed. This stuff really grates on the Brits - we stood alone against the nazis for a long time before the Americans decided to help. And when you finally realised you couldn't stay neutral any longer we both played an equal part in D-day! There were 73,000 soldiers and 53,000 sailors from America, and 62,000 soldiers and 113,000 sailors from Britain.

And no-one should ever forget the massive contribution of the Russians. More Russian citizens died than all the other nations put together.

all of that is well and good, but it really just reinforces the statement that France has forgotten who it was that saved them from the Germans. The US and it's best ally, England. (along with a few other allies as well)... and that it wasnt us who have forgotten.

trust me, most Americans will never forget our friendship with England... ever!

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
The Allies liberated France, not America alone. Somewhere, somehow, most Americans have come to believe it was America alone. I think movies have to do with it, I really hope your not taught that in school. Don't ever try to say this * America saved the world* stuff on a British board

Thank you sir! I was going to say something similar but I would have been flamed. This stuff really grates on the Brits - we stood alone against the nazis for a long time before the Americans decided to help. And when you finally realised you couldn't stay neutral any longer we both played an equal part in D-day! There were 73,000 soldiers and 53,000 sailors from America, and 62,000 soldiers and 113,000 sailors from Britain.

And no-one should ever forget the massive contribution of the Russians. More Russian citizens died than all the other nations put together.

all of that is well and good, but it really just reinforces the statement that France has forgotten who it was that saved them from the Germans. The US and it's best ally, England. (along with a few other allies as well)... and that it wasnt us who have forgotten.

I suppose, but Iraq wasn't about saving america, if someone declared war on the US I'm sure the French would be right there along with the rest of the EU.

trust me, most Americans will never forget our friendship with England... ever!

Give us the source code to the JSFs then! Maybe I should start a thread about that... it's on the front page of slashdot if anyone's interested.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
all of that is well and good, but it really just reinforces the statement that France has forgotten who it was that saved them from the Germans. The US and it's best ally, England. (along with a few other allies as well)... and that it wasnt us who have forgotten.

trust me, most Americans will never forget our friendship with England... ever!

After 9/11 America's greatest ally, Canada, was the first to step up to the plate
At the beginning of WW2 Britains greatest ally, Canada, ( and Oz ) was one of the first to step up to the plate

It really looks like America's best ally is who's up to follow them on whatever issue their gov has deemed necessary for the moment

And yes, then you will forget them

 

[Orignal Earl]

Radio Address to the Nation on the Upcoming Trip to Canada

March 16, 1985

My fellow Americans:

Tomorrow, in our first trip outside the States in this second term, Nancy and I will be heading north to visit our good neighbors in Canada. We're going at the invitation of Canada's Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, who is an articulate and effective defender of Canadian interests, a strong friend of the United States, and the best votegetter in his nation's history.

We're going to Canada now for one simple reason: No country is more important to the United States. Sometimes we overlook that fact. Sometimes our friendship and cooperation may not seem to warrant as much attention as the serious problems we're dealing with in other areas. But certain facts about our Canadian neighbors, with whom we share the world's longest undefended boundary, must never be overlooked.

We will encourage the sharing of our mutual defense responsibilities. Canada is a founding member of NATO, with a proud military history stretching from Vimy Ridge in France during the First World War to the skies over Germany in the Second, to the seas off Korea during that conflict. We're pleased with the commitment of Brian Mulroney's government to increase significantly Canada's overall contribution to our shared defense responsibilities.

In 1939 Winston Churchill, describing the 5,000-mile peaceful border dividing Canada and the United States, said: ``That long frontier from the Atlantic to the Pacific Oceans, guarded only by neighborly respect and honorable obligations, is an example to every country and a pattern for the future of the world.''

Today, more than ever, our progress, our partnership, and our friendship can be a model for others and a pattern for the future. Working together, Canada and the United States can accomplish great things for the cause of a safer, freer, and more prosperous world. And that's what our trip is all about.

Until next week, thanks for listening. God bless you.

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[Orignal Earl]

I just noticed the date on that Radio Address, spooky

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: palehorse74
all of that is well and good, but it really just reinforces the statement that France has forgotten who it was that saved them from the Germans. The US and it's best ally, England. (along with a few other allies as well)... and that it wasnt us who have forgotten.

trust me, most Americans will never forget our friendship with England... ever!

After 9/11 America's greatest ally, Canada, was the first to step up to the plate
At the beginning of WW2 Britains greatest ally, Canada, ( and Oz ) was one of the first to step up to the plate

It really looks like America's best ally is who's up to follow them on whatever issue their gov has deemed necessary for the moment

And yes, then you will forget them

You really seem to have a bone to pick with us.

No countries enjoy more favorable relations with the US than UK and Canada. It has been that way for quite some time.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I dunno, I think he reminded alot of us who has been our faithful ally. A country we tend to take for granted. I could be wrong, but I'd venture to say when you think of US allies, you think of the UK first.
Thanks Canada! p.s. keep the cheap Rx's comin'!

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I dunno, I think he reminded alot of us who has been our faithful ally. A country we tend to take for granted. I could be wrong, but I'd venture to say when you think of US allies, you think of the UK first.
Thanks Canada! p.s. keep the cheap Rx's comin'!

That was my intention

t.y. Sheik

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: K1052

You really seem to have a bone to pick with us.

I do have a bone to pick with Bush, most American people are no different then most of us Canuks

 

[zanieladie]

My answer: NO!

Now I'm off to go get my Freedom Manicure...