If you are going to buy GTX460, beware...

[OnePingOnly]

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[MangoX]

I don't have a problem with it, but why couldn't NV named it the GTS460 or something? Or GTX450 even since these names are available. Unless NV has future cards to fill these slots...

 

[Ben90]

Anyone remember the sweet Athlon naming scheme?

Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Manchestor
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Toledo
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Windsor
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Windsor EE
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Brisbane

I remember debating whether I should get an Athlon 64 x2 4600+ vs an Athlon 64 x2 4600+ to replace my dead Athlon 64 x2 4600+. The former had a higher IPC while the latter offered more overclocking headroom. Alternatively I could replace my dead Athlon 64 x2 4600+ with another Athlon 64 x2 4600+ or I could even save some money and just drop in an old Athlon 64 x2 4600+. Since my motherboard was technically meant for the light power sipping properties of the Athlon 64 x2 4600+ I wasn't sure how well my motherboards power circutry could handle the Athlon 64 x2 4600+. In the end I went with the Athlon 64 x2 4600+ although I think I should have gone with an Athlon 64 x2 4600+ because I wasn't able to overclock very far on the Athlon 64 x2 4600+ I purchased due to said power problems.

That is actually a true story.

 

[taltamir]

the funniest part about that naming scheme is that the vast majority of retailers would not tell you if it was a manchestor, toledo, windsor, windsor EE, or brisbane. all you were told is that it is an Athlon 64 x2 4600+
Only one I knew of that will tell you which you were buying was newegg.

Oh yes, I distinctly remember having to do similar decisions, and upgrades.
IIRC, the athlon 64 x2 started at 130nm and went progressively down to 65nm? or was it all the way down to 45nm?

 

[JimmiG]

Hmm, I was expecting a "full" GF104 GTX460 to appear at some point, but not a further cut down version. Yields still not that great?

The Athlon X2 stopped at 65nm with Brisbane. Remember that the Phenom originally launched at 65nm with an undersized L3 cache as a result.

 

[taltamir]

right, thanks for reminding me.

 

[nenforcer]

Are you telling me someone purchasing an Athlon 64 X2 4600+ was a lose, win, lose, win, win situtation?

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

X800 XL = eXtra Large? eXtra Long? eXtra L33t?

Considering how much it fell behind the XT, its more like "Xtra Lousy"

 

[thedosbox]

My favourite was the Geforce4 MX. Lots of people bought those only to discover they didn't support pixel shaders and couldn't play new games a year or two later.

 

[disappoint]

SE should be Special Edition...in that it's the special person who buys it...

 

[Lonyo]

You're more special.

 

[Arkadrel]

GTX
Ultra
GX2
>
GSO
GT
GTS
GTO
>
SE
LE
GS

nvidia has used SE prefix before....
So their customers will know that the 460 SE is slower than a 460 GTX. Nothing to beware of.

 

[MrK6]

GTX
Ultra
GX2
>
GSO
GT
GTS
GTO
>
SE
LE
GS

nvidia has used SE prefix before....
So their customers will know that the 460 SE is slower than a 460 GTX. Nothing to beware of.

Sadly, they probably won't. Both manufacturers use "SE" and I can't tell you how many computers I've fixed over the years where people bought an "SE" card thinking it was better. Hopefully these will go more into OEM comps than retail. Either way, buyer beware, do your homework.

 

[Voo]

nvidia has used SE prefix before....
So their customers will know that the 460 SE is slower than a 460 GTX. Nothing to beware of.

Yeah because we all know customers really don't have anything better to do with their time than learn obscure naming schemes (well the mobile naming still wins hands down).

And I thought that we'd finally get rid of those annoying suffixes for retail cards, there are soo many numbers out there you could use, so the only reason I see is to confuse people into mixing up cards. And even if it's just an OEM card in the end those will market their PCs with a 460SE, so in the end the user still has the same problem..
And no Amds naming scheme for their new cards is just as shitty :/


Oh but yeah the 4600+ still wins absolutely every contest - I assume that was a prank that someone took serious (several times).

 

[tweakboy]

http://www.techspot.com/news/41132-nvidia-intros-geforce-gtx-460-se-with-less-cuda-cores.html

 

[Jdawg84]

Should have named it the 455

 

[AnandThenMan]

Marketing wise, it's smart to use the 460 name. People see the 460 reviews, and grab the cheapest 460 they can find. Not the same performance, but...

 

[Illyan]

I think it's funny they're reintroducing suffixes again, that is, if GTX 460 SE is the actual name. They should follow it with a GTX 460 Ultra, to which AMD can counter with an HD 6870 XTX.

 

[Lonyo]

I'm kind of surprised this is a consumer card.
Make it an OEM card with 2GB of slower RAM to stick in "gaming" machines as an upgrade from the GTS450 1.5GB.

(Also ATI would release an HD6890, not 6870 XTX)

 

[Illyan]

(Also ATI would release an HD6890, not 6870 XTX)

I know, I'm just pointing out the new naming scheme since the GTX200s was supposed to do away with suffixes. If Nvidia can go back on it AMD won't be far behind.

 

[Zap]

Welcome to two weeks ago.

 

[nenforcer]

Thank you for sharing this.

I will not be purchasing one.

 

[ModestGamer]

Wow they had alot of yield issues. Look at the variants on this one mask. Whoa.

 

[nyker96]

Anyone remember the sweet Athlon naming scheme?

Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Manchestor
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Toledo
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Windsor
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Windsor EE
Athlon 64 x2 4600+... Brisbane

That is actually a true story.

these are core revisions, it's not the same thing, it's like i7 920 D0 etc. But in this case we have completely different core/mem for the gpu, I do think graphics card company naming can be so confusing sometimes like the x800 xl se xe pro etc etc. maybe something like gtx 455? or GTX 460 LE (as in light edition) would be better than SE (special sounds like something better than regular 1GB 460s very confusing.)

 

[tweakboy]

Everyone one go to www.amazon.com and type in EVGA 1GB SC and order it. That simple., no confusion and you know what your getting it says it right there Not everyone, just peep dat want a ubber 460