If you are going to buy GTX460, beware...

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netxzero64

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i don't see the point on why Nvidia would release such a card... unless it will be priced the same as the 5770, it would be good...
 

Rifter

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I dont really care, the naming of cards from both sides has always been retarted at times. Just do some reasearch before buying and you will be fine.
 

Keysplayr

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case. For people requiring more shader power, or run games that do require more shader power, the GTX460 768 is the better option. For those running games that would require more texture memory, where 768 doesn't quite cut it, then the GTX460 SE is the better choice. It's all about choices people. The more we have, the better.
 

WelshBloke

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Oh please lets not go back to the days of numerous cryptic suffixes.

Both AMD and Nvidia have been doing really well at avoiding the confusing mess that we used to have.
 

WelshBloke

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case. For people requiring more shader power, or run games that do require more shader power, the GTX460 768 is the better option. For those running games that would require more texture memory, where 768 doesn't quite cut it, then the GTX460 SE is the better choice. It's all about choices people. The more we have, the better.


Not always, see the X800 and Athlon 64 x2 4600+ posts in this thread for examples.:(
 

exar333

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case. For people requiring more shader power, or run games that do require more shader power, the GTX460 768 is the better option. For those running games that would require more texture memory, where 768 doesn't quite cut it, then the GTX460 SE is the better choice. It's all about choices people. The more we have, the better.

Good post.
 

taltamir

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case.

from what i have read the GTX 460 SE 1GB is slower than the GTX460 768. It is most definitely slower than the GTX460 1GB...
 

Seero

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case. For people requiring more shader power, or run games that do require more shader power, the GTX460 768 is the better option. For those running games that would require more texture memory, where 768 doesn't quite cut it, then the GTX460 SE is the better choice. It's all about choices people. The more we have, the better.
I have to disagree with you here. This is not choices, but confusions. How can an average Joe knew all this? Most people think more RAM is better. Both cards are named GTX460 and have 1 gb of RAM in it, one is much cheaper and people will probably think it is on discount, especially with the BF coming, guess what salesperson will say. If it is about decision after removing parts from the card, they could have used GT460 instead as they have just used it before. There are no standards of themselves but tries to confuse customers. GTS, GTX, GT, SE, LE, FTW, SC, SCC, and OC. All this prefix and suffix only stated that there are small differences, but really doesn't tell what are the differences. Take Windows Office for example, there is a chart specifying the difference between "home and student", "home and office", and "professional". Some goes to windows OSes. On video cards, different prefix/suffix may refer to the degree of oc, missing parts, and extra ram. To top this off, different naming, like GT8800, GT9800, and GT240 actually means the same thing releases in different time. The explanation of these naming is as lame as the naming. Seriously, if they can put some billions of transistors into a something smaller than a mouse, it is really that difficult to name something so people can easily understand?

May be this isn't done on purpose, but it is definitely confusing for customers.
 
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Ben90

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these are core revisions, it's not the same thing, it's like i7 920 D0 etc. But in this case we have completely different core/mem for the gpu, I do think graphics card company naming can be so confusing sometimes like the x800 xl se xe pro etc etc. maybe something like gtx 455? or GTX 460 LE (as in light edition) would be better than SE (special sounds like something better than regular 1GB 460s very confusing.)

Not just core revisions, There were tangible performance and combatibility differences between processors.
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I have an AM2 motherboard that supports Athlon X2 4600+ processors. I have an Athlon X2 4600+ processor. Does it work? No, it doesn't even fit in the socket.

I have an AM2 motherboard that supports Athlon X2 4600+ processors. I have a different Athlon processor than the above example. Does it work? No, motherboard can't give it enough power and its unstable.

I have a AM2 motherboard that supports Athlon X2 4600+ processors. I have a different Athlon processor than the above examples. Does it work? No, BIOS doesn't support it.

I have an application that needs hardware virtulization support. Athlon X2 4600+ processors are advertised to have AMD-V. Does it work? No, this one doesn't have AMD-V.
 

taltamir

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Seriously, if they can put some billions of transistors into a something smaller than a mouse, it is really that difficult to name something so people can easily understand?

you misunderstand. the name confusion is intentional, created with a specific purpose in mind, the increase of revenue.
 

toyota

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The GTX460 SE 1GB has about the same performance as a GTX460 768. Nvidia opted not to use the GTX455 moniker as that would imply a lower performance part, and that isn't the case. For people requiring more shader power, or run games that do require more shader power, the GTX460 768 is the better option. For those running games that would require more texture memory, where 768 doesn't quite cut it, then the GTX460 SE is the better choice. It's all about choices people. The more we have, the better.
well to be honest all this will do is be confusing. plus pretty much any game that will need more than 768mb would also need the additional shading power and vice versa.
 

MustangSVT

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Ive found information on Zotac one which i THINK is SE version because of the pricing. (about same as 756mb).

core is 700mhz and memory 3600mhz.

I wonder how much performance is lost compared to 756mb one?
If this is another gem like 8800gs or 9600gt, i think it is definatly worth it.

also the price is exactly same as HD6850. which one is better!?

If I was back in states I would jump on $100 756mb ones AR and call it a day but cheapest 756mb is about $135.

need some SE reviews!

UPDATE: hmm upon closer inspection, it says 336 shader. hmmm do I bite on this?!
 
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toyota

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Ive found information on Zotac one which i THINK is SE version because of the pricing. (about same as 756mb).

core is 700mhz and memory 3600mhz.

I wonder how much performance is lost compared to 756mb one?
If this is another gem like 8800gs or 9600gt, i think it is definatly worth it.

also the price is exactly same as HD6850. which one is better!?

If I was back in states I would jump on $100 756mb ones AR and call it a day but cheapest 756mb is about $135.

need some SE reviews!
the standard gtx460se is 650mhz/3400mhz. http://www.zotac.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=535%3A-zotac-announces-new-geforce-gtx-460-se-&catid=1&Itemid=268&lang=un

a gtx460se would be slower than a 6850 but are you sure this is even se? btw its 768 not 756.