If you are a Libertarian...
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You either vote libertarian or you abstain. Other than rhetoric, nothing really ditinguishes the two from each other.
I don't know about that, especially as the Libertarian party itself is to libertarian what the Communist party is to the left, and the Nazi party is to the right.
I will agree that a lot of the time there is no difference from a libertarian perspective, but sometimes there IS a big difference. Libertarians in the 2006 election will have good reason to vote Democrat, since most of them probably oppose the Patriot ACT and warrantless wiretapping.
Oops.... I meant nothing really distinguishes the GOP from the Democrats
Although, with the current flock, I suppose voting Democratic would make more sense, as the GOP is pushing to increase government power.
A lot of the "liberatarians here" are anything but, and fully support and believe the far left anti-freedom economic platform.
As a Libertarian, I tend to support economically conservative and socially liberal candiates. Thus my support tends to cross party lines, as both the Democrats and Republicans as a whole are neither. I support independant candidates if they support my philosophy, even if they have no chance of winning.
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I vote for who I think is less authoritarian. (it's really hard to tell of coarse)
I'd vote actual Libetarian Party if they all didn't reak of Ayn Rand meets the Michigan Militia. For the record, I've voted for almost every party at one time or another.
Well Zen there is a differance between Libetarians like there is in any philosophy. It ranges from governmental minimalist and free market to self sustaining autonomous collectives.
I'd vote actual Libetarian Party if they all didn't reak of Ayn Rand meets the Michigan Militia. For the record, I've voted for almost every party at one time or another.
Well Zen there is a differance between Libetarians like there is in any philosophy. It ranges from governmental minimalist and free market to self sustaining autonomous collectives.
Yeah, just like they are for gun control, right? You're a douche... and lol at liberatarians,
at least spell it right.
...and to the OP, I vote libertarian. I don't think any Libertarian minded person is stupid enough to vote for the lesser of two evils.
I try to look at it on a case by case basis.
The last election I voted Bush because I STRONGLY disagreed with Kerry's Universal healthcare proposal. But looking at Bush's corruption and lack of fiscal conservatism, I'm not sure I like this poison any better.
The last election I voted Bush because I STRONGLY disagreed with Kerry's Universal healthcare proposal. But looking at Bush's corruption and lack of fiscal conservatism, I'm not sure I like this poison any better.
And thus the fallacy of the lesser of two evils rears it's head. Vote Libertarian for the love of god!
Evil is EVIL IS EVIL IS EVIL!!!Is there really a big difference if you spend the same amount either way?
(And I in no way support universal healthcare. While it sounds great for small things, it is atrocious for anything beyond getting a little amoxicilian for strep throat)
It depends on if you think social issues or economic issues are more important I guess. If you find economic issues more important, Republican...if you find social issues more important, Democrat...
What is it with the total ignorance about libertarians???? Look at the poll "Whats the difference between Libertarian and Liberal again?" - I swear he wrote that just because they sound similar
I try to vote for the lesser evil, and occasionally there is even a candidate I approve of at the local level (like WA AG Rob McKenna).
I voted for Kerry despite his glaring shortcomings because I was hoping for more Clinton-style gridlock where the parties keep each other from doing much harm.
I voted for Kerry despite his glaring shortcomings because I was hoping for more Clinton-style gridlock where the parties keep each other from doing much harm.
I think the issues are a little more than that. If you are against gun control (a social freedom, I suppose), you wouldn't vote Democrat. On the other hand, if you are against huge government spending more money than it takes in, you wouldn't vote Republican.
As opposed to the far right anti-freedom of any kind platform?
Libertarians are just like any other group, there are degrees. Some libertarians are more moderate on economic issues but very extreme on social issues, and some are the other way around.
For me, no. A few years ago I was getting all sorts of treatment. For allergies, I got shots 2x a week, allegra D, 2 nasal sprays. For acne I took some sort of antibiotic pill, benzaclin, retin-A. For ADD, I took 25 mg/ritalin a day. A couple years ago, I went to college, and I started getting anemic due to iron deficiency. I was weak all of the time, and it took a few months before I found out it was anemia. I ate plenty of iron rich foods. Didn't help. Iron pills had only small results. On top of that, my allergies were still bad, etc.
It was then I decided to look at alternatives because it became clear the medicine was not only not working, but causing other problems. Today, I only take ritalin and retina-A (supposed to fade acne scars I have on my back). I don't seem to have ADD anymore, but it's like coffee now...I plan on phasing it off later. My allergies are now non-existant, etc.
So soon I won't be taking any prescriptions, and I don't get sick. I got colds before my eating habbits/prescription elimination, but now I get absolutely nothing. The worse thing I get is a few sinus headaches a year. The only reason why health care would be expensive for me is if I have to sign up for some sort of insurance that forces me to have prescriptions considered. I just want something to help me if I get in a car wreck or something. I'm still in school, so I really haven't looked into this.
But on a general sense, would healthcare cost more? I think so. Because many of these disorders that people have today are due to poor diet, exercise and drug abuse. If we provide health care to all, people will be less likely to take responsibility for their bodies, and use the "free" pills to correct things. Furthermore poor people tend to treat their bodies worse, because more tend to smoke, etc. That's not true for all poor people, but there is a trend. So these people will "require" more "treatment", but they won't generate the taxes to support the universal healthcare program.
I would forsee a huge tax burdon on the middle class and upwards.
Of course there are solutions to this, such as prescription limits, and having the government force healthcare participates to be within a certain body fat % content, have a junk food consumption tax etc. Ie, the government would force you to get in shape.
The whole thing seems rather needlessly complicated, while infringing the economic and consequently social rights of people. I don't want to see that happen.
There's no such thing as free healthcare. If able people want to be healthy, they can take personal responsibility to be fit. This would apply to the majority of people; I'm not telling people in wheelchairs to go to the gym.
The irony is that libertarians are more fiscally conservative than the "conservative" republicans. But we also don't care what other people do with their lives, as long as it doesn't affect the rights of others. That apparently makes us socially liberal. But I say trying to force subjective religious morals on people is liberal, just a different kind of liberal than Democrats.
There is one situation where I would vote Republican, though... If Ron Paul ran for president. http://www.house.gov/paul/ Almost forgot to mention that.
He's said everything from Libertarians support gun control, to we are pro welfare/nanny state. He really has no freaking clue. But reading alot of his posts shows one that he doesn't have much of a clue about ANYTHING. All he can do is spit out party lines and talking points... and otherwise pretty much just troll.
He's said everything from Libertarians support gun control, to we are pro welfare/nanny state. He really has no freaking clue. But reading alot of his posts shows one that he doesn't have much of a clue about ANYTHING. All he can do is spit out party lines and talking points... and otherwise pretty much just troll.
Actually I don't know who Zen is... The first answer was just to weed out those who are confused between the two, not including myself, I'd like to think. I'm personally diametrically opposed to most libertarian priorities, would *like* to vote Christian conservative, but socially and economically liberal... Needless to say, everyone hates me and I can never find a candidate from any party with the sort of character that suits my tastes...
This poll was simply intended to satisfy a curiosity... I thought at the least a slight majority of libertarians voted Republican, and a friend of mine argued against that... I guess like Rainsford says, it all depends on which of the major issues you're most libertarian about.
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