Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Why do you want government to raise taxes? On anybody?
Is it just that you don't think it's right someone makes more money than you do?
I have to at least give you credit that you are honest in exposing your utter lack of any clue about the liberal position.
Liberals don't 'like paying taxes' compared to magically having the society without them, but they might 'happily pay them' in terms of understanding why they're needed.
Imagine if you were talking with someone you have hired to do something you need - a plumber, a doctor - and you constantly tell them how you don't like paying them.
Well, of course you don't, but why do you keep complaining to them about it? There's no point - you either decide you should hire them and pay, or you don't hire them and pay.
Are you expecting them not to charge you?
You seem to be expecitng some magic way for society to work without taxes.
I think maybe it's just how people are clueless abut what makes a society function, and why some taxes and even wasteful spending are part of the system. No one's foudn a better way - show me any nation in the world, and I'll show you imperfections in the society in taxing and spending. So why are you constantly complaining not about the legitimate issues that deserve attention to be corrected when they happen, but about paying seeming any taxes, always wanting to pay 'less' no matter how low they are?
Liberals have a pretty simply approach - pay what makes sense, and consider whether it makes sense. Not just 'strip it to the stinking bone becuase we HATE HATE GOVERNMENT'.
Republicans spend too much, in giveaways to big business of tax dollars - not to mention policies that let big business cost too much to society in other ways as well (e.g., lax pollutions laws that make the taxpayers clean up the mess). Libertarians spend too little, unwittingly wanting to turn the US into the desert of Arizona or a Mad Max society, just oblivious to the needs of a modern society, often ideologically dominated. Who's Goldilocks in the middle? Democrats. No one's perfect, but there they are.
Yes, they've often spent big - but we've gotten a lot in return for it. People with medical care, a lower poverty rate, better education as much as it needs to improve - show me a societal compliaint, and I'mlikely to be able to show you where the Democrats have not gotten the spending they'd like to fix the problem and/or where Republicans have made it worse, from education to crime to business opportunities.
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