If Trump could beat Obama, and you could pick either him or Obama in 2012: which?

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if Trump could beat Obama, and you could pick either him or Obama in 2012 and only th

  • I'd vote for Obama in 2012 in this case

  • I'd vote for Obama in 2012 in any case

  • I'd vote for Trump in 2012 in this case

  • I'd vote for Trump in 2012 in any case


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M0RPH

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Your poll is confusing. Why didn't you just have two options and ask which one we would vote for, Obama vs Trump?

Let's see, Donald Trump, multi-billionaire who also created a hit tv series.

Guy who fucks up a simple poll between two candidates.

Who's the moron here?
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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Your poll is confusing. Why didn't you just have two options and ask which one we would vote for, Obama vs Trump?

Let's see, Donald Trump, multi-billionaire who also created a hit tv series.

Guy who fucks up a simple poll between two candidates.

Who's the moron here?

There was a very good reason, There is a clear difference between people who would choose one candidate over the other in this one instance or people who would vote for one candidate regardless of the situation.

:hmm: makes perfect sense to me, sorry if it was confusing.
 

MikeMike

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What the fuck does a brit know about the US Political spectrum, and why is he talking about it?

Troll thread is obvious.
 
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What difference does it make if he can or can't win? Do you seriously think that people just vote for who they think can win so they can be on the winning team? Poll fail.


I'll take Trump. Right now I'll take him over any other candidate, period.
 

dawp

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I'd vote for neither at this moment. Wish there were stronger 3rd parties in this country, and then things might change, tho i doubt it. It take too much much money to run for any federal office in this country.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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What the fuck does a brit know about the US Political spectrum, and why is he talking about it?

Troll thread is obvious.

I love you too you silly fuck. ;) :wub:

What difference does it make if he can or can't win? Do you seriously think that people just vote for who they think can win so they can be on the winning team? Poll fail.

It's a hypothetical, it's not real life. Calm down.

I'll take Trump. Right now I'll take him over any other candidate, period.

Why?!
 

pcgeek11

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Really?! I find this shocking, Obama is at least an intelligent man. Given that one of them would be the president surely you'd want someone with a solid head on his shoulders.

A rock is solid.

I would vote for a turd before I would vote for Obama.

The only promise that he has kept is the one to ensure energy cost would skyrocket.
 
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Is that a serious question?

1. Obama has added an insane amount to the already insane national debt
2. He's committed us to the largest welfare program in history
3. He inherited a bad situation and made it infinitely worse
4. He took $400 billion deficits and turned them into $1.7 trillion deficits
5. He's an abject failure

Why would you vote FOR him?

I'd vote for Trump based on his businress accumen alone. At least he's been in charge of something.
 
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HAL9000

Lifer
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Is that a serious question?

1. Obama has added an insane amount to the already insane national debt
2. He's committed us to the largest welfare program in history
3. He inherited a bad situation and made it infinitely worse
4. He took $400 billion deficits and turned them into $1.7 trillion deficits
5. He's an abject failure

Why would you vote FOR him?

A couple of reasons, I'd say he is an intelligent man, unlike bush-the-retard and unlike Trump-the-moron. So that's a step in the right direction. He's a member of the good party. I think he's opposed to gun ownership a bit :hmm: not sure on that one. He won a nobel prize. Also 2 I'd have said that was a positive.
 

a777pilot

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With it was a contest for the Presidency of American between Bobo, the Post Turtle and a person picked at random from any city's phone book, I would have no problem voting for that "any person".
 
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A couple of reasons, I'd say he is an intelligent man, unlike bush-the-retard and unlike Trump-the-moron. So that's a step in the right direction. He's a member of the good party. I think he's opposed to gun ownership a bit :hmm: not sure on that one. He won a nobel prize. Also 2 I'd have said that was a positive.

LOL! His NPP was the biggest joke in the history of the award. He was nominated a week after he became president. Tell me, what did he do to earn such an award? And how was he more worthy than any of the other legitimate candidates who didn't get the prize?

Intelligent or not, he's proven to a worthless president. He's not a leader. He can't even speak without his teleprompter. 57 states?

Trump is not a moron. That's a cop-out on your part to not have to explain what you don't like about him or his assumed policies. (Which we only know a small part of because he hasn't officially started running yet) Obama on the other hand has a long list of fail to judge him by.
 

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Lifer
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LOL! His NPP was the biggest joke in the history of the award. He was nominated a week after he became president. Tell me, what did he do to earn such an award? And how was he more worthy than any of the other legitimate candidates who didn't get the prize?

I didn't say anything about him deserving it, just that it's a good thing for a president to have.

Intelligent or not, he's proven to a worthless president. He's not a leader. He can't even speak without his teleprompter. 57 states?

I don't know what this refers too.

Trump is not a moron. That's a cop-out on your part to not have to explain what you don't like about him or his assumed policies. (Which we only know a small part of because he hasn't officially started running yet) Obama on the other hand has a long list of fail to judge him by.

The whole "birther" debate makes the man a moron if you ask me, plus his reaction on the proof he required, moving onto accusing Obama of other crap. He needs to grow up or increase his IQ, as he's either 5 or a retard.
 

M0RPH

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A couple of reasons, I'd say he is an intelligent man, unlike bush-the-retard and unlike Trump-the-moron.

Name calling... that's a real intelligent argument.

I think he's opposed to gun ownership a bit :hmm: not sure on that one.
Shouldn't you be sure about it if this is one of the main reasons you support him?

He won a nobel prize. Also 2 I'd have said that was a positive.

For doing nothing but getting elected, and even he has laughed about that.

You know, I shouldn't be mean but since you are so quick to call others stupid, I'll just go ahead and say it. You sound like an idiot.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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Name calling... that's a real intelligent argument.

Fair point.

Shouldn't you be sure about it if this is one of the main reasons you support him?

I should, but I couldn't be bothered to check my information.

For doing nothing but getting elected, and even he has laughed about that.

You know, I shouldn't be mean but since you are so quick to call others stupid, I'll just go ahead and say it. You sound like an idiot.

Oh OK! Tell me more about what you think of me! Maybe PM me with a list :rolleyes:
 
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I didn't say anything about him deserving it, just that it's a good thing for a president to have.

Seriously? A worthless/baseless/meritless award is a good thing for a president to have? That carries weight with you?

I don't know what this refers too.

Sad...

The whole "birther" debate makes the man a moron if you ask me, plus his reaction on the proof he required, moving onto accusing Obama of other crap. He needs to grow up or increase his IQ, as he's either 5 or a retard.

That's not an indictment on his intelligence. He's an attack dog and somewhat reactionary. Always has been. But he's not stupid. He's going to be fun to watch in the debates.
 

Craig234

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LOL! His NPP was the biggest joke in the history of the award. He was nominated a week after he became president. Tell me, what did he do to earn such an award? And how was he more worthy than any of the other legitimate candidates who didn't get the prize?

Intelligent or not, he's proven to a worthless president. He's not a leader. He can't even speak without his teleprompter. 57 states?

Trump is not a moron. That's a cop-out on your part to not have to explain what you don't like about him or his assumed policies. (Which we only know a small part of because he hasn't officially started running yet) Obama on the other hand has a long list of fail to judge him by.

Obama's Peace Prize Award was, IMO, for his successfully steering the world's most powerful military nation, in his campaign, away from the neocon changes under Bush.

Obama had a lot to say to repudiate the right-wing, aggressive war approving people who had beenin power and to help the more peaceful, global approach beat it.

Going by what he said, at least.

It was controversially an award based more on speech than action, and I think it had a lot to do with wanting to encourage the change away from Bush.

But that's part of what it's for, to promote peace. Whether Obama has done as he said...

One thing we can say is that he has not been launching new aggressive ground invasions.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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But that's part of what it's for, to promote peace. Whether Obama has done as he said...

One thing we can say is that he has not been launching new aggressive ground invasions.

Just aggressive air invasions.

Libya.
 
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One thing we can say is that he has not been launching new aggressive ground invasions.

But airstrikes in Libya are ok, right? We can kill them for no reason from up high, we just can't kill them for no reason from the ground. Gotcha. :awe:

If you have to reach that far... or for that matter if you think you can justify his NPP at all then you are a total sell-out.