if the south had won the Civil War....
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MagnusTheBrewer
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Cdubneeddeal
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Wait, what? Right now we import stuff from China because cheap labor lowers the price of goods. Slavery accomplishes basically the same thing but not only do you get Walmart prices, but you can export those Walmart prices to everyone else! It's win-win for everyone! (except blacks)
If the south had won, it would probably play like the revolutionary war did. The south would be a new country and the north would give up and go away. What happened when the US invaded Canada and lost? They gave up and went away. That was all that happened.
I don't think so. The British came back and got a thorough whooping in the War of 1812.
The Confederate States would have crumbled under an obsolete economic system while everybody else burned past them during the Industrial Revolution. Who knows they could have been the English speaking Mexico of today.
GagHalfrunt
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Linflas
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haha. US education system failure strikes again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
You invaded a country and you gained exactly 0 ground. You lost (or a draw)
I want to see gimmewhitecastles make an RTS video game. I build up an army, I march into enemy territory, lose a significant number of troops and gain nothing. The game then displays "You Are Winner" and it goes to the next level. Retreating means you win.
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Slavery would have died a natural death for economic reasons sooner or later in The West, even if The Civil War turned out differently.
The CSA's constitution banned the international slave trade, but plenty were already over here to produce offspring for domestic trade.
However, I am sure many of the products that I use were made by de facto slaves overseas.
The CSA's constitution banned the international slave trade, but plenty were already over here to produce offspring for domestic trade.
However, I am sure many of the products that I use were made by de facto slaves overseas.
We kicked their ass down here outside of New Orleans, I think you boys up north had a bit more trouble with them.
MagnusTheBrewer
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The British would hardly have stood by and allowed Spain the strategic foothold in the Americas. They would have tried again. The CSA would have crumbled due to lack of infrastructure.
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Good point...but would there have been and industrial revolution with free labor? Necessity breeds invention, right?
techs
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Slavery might have existed far longer than anyone coud imagine.
The mechanical cotton picker didn't really take hold until the 1930's.
And if the South had tried to develop industry the unwritten agreement that blacks wouldn't be brought into the cities to work in factories in great numbers might have broken down.
I think the real question is whether it would have been cheaper to own a factory slave who you would have to clothe, house and feed versus a free man who would have to cloth, house and feed himself.
Remember there were times in America that factory workers didn't make enough to live on, and died, or moved away, but not before putting in time in the factories.
I certainly think that it is highly likely that a South African situation might have existed for over a hundred years. Blacks techinically free, but without the vote, and without the same rights and freedoms as whites.
The mechanical cotton picker didn't really take hold until the 1930's.
And if the South had tried to develop industry the unwritten agreement that blacks wouldn't be brought into the cities to work in factories in great numbers might have broken down.
I think the real question is whether it would have been cheaper to own a factory slave who you would have to clothe, house and feed versus a free man who would have to cloth, house and feed himself.
Remember there were times in America that factory workers didn't make enough to live on, and died, or moved away, but not before putting in time in the factories.
I certainly think that it is highly likely that a South African situation might have existed for over a hundred years. Blacks techinically free, but without the vote, and without the same rights and freedoms as whites.
Leros
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What I've read is that it had cost more to feed, house, and take care of a slave than it did to pay them extremely low wages once they were free.
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The south would never have won the war...everyone knows that southerners are too fucking stupid to have won anything. 
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The south would never have won the war...everyone knows that southerners are too fucking stupid to have won anything.
I talked to a good ol' boy from Alabama today. He had the whole deep south accent, spoke so slow that I was dozing off between his words....stereotype to the max. I had zero doubt that he had the IQ of a toothpick. Once I actually got him to open up, he was VERY intelligent and one of the nicest guys I've ever talked to. He seriously wanted me to come down and have tea if I was ever in the area.
Completely screwed up my hatred of southerners.
I wasn't assuming that the CSA would have joined Mexico. Just saying they would have been a third world country like Mexico. But with that said, Mexico might have reclaimed Texas.
[SPANISH]"Remember the Alamo!"[/SPANISH]
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