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IF...Superdelegates to Primary Voters -- F you!

WhipperSnapper

WhipperSnapper

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IF...Obama wins the popular vote and the most delegates...and the Superdelegates decide that it's time to put a Marxist Feminist in the White House and by damned if some clean cut black guy is going to derail that and thus they decide to make Hillary the candidate...

...in other words, if the Superdelegates message to the primary voters is: F-you!


...then...should/will the message of a large chunk of primary voters be: F-you! We're either going to stay home or vote for Juan McAnmesty?

If you support Obama and Hillary is coronated as the Democratic candidate in spite of Obama's winning the popular vote and delegates, perhaps also by a decision to count the tainted and bogus Florida and Michigan primaries, will you stay home, hold your nose and vote for Hillary, or vote for McAmnesty?

 
LOL, you are calling Hillary Marxist and supporting Obama? Have you actually considered where the two stand on the issues?
I will vote for McCain over that empty suit, and I hate Republicans.
 
:laugh: I don't see Obamarama supporters voting for Mac. It's about as hilarious as Conservatives voting for Obamarama - it just doesn't make sense. But sitting on your hands...I understand that.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
LOL, you are calling Hillary Marxist and supporting Obama? Have you actually considered where the two stand on the issues?
I will vote for McCain over that empty suit, and I hate Republicans.
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:laugh:

Now it's a battle of who is LESS Marxist? Coulda fooled me since they both seem to be moving further left to grab the Edwards supporters.

Again, I don't see how a hitlery supporter could ever vote for mac. It just doesn't make sense.

Sheesh this year is a mess.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
LOL, you are calling Hillary Marxist and supporting Obama? Have you actually considered where the two stand on the issues?
I will vote for McCain over that empty suit, and I hate Republicans.
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At least Obama isn't a heavy-duty Feminist as far as I know. The only thing I particularly like about Obama is that he has a high intellectual capacity and perhaps a greater ability to look at the facts and think independently than Hillary or McAmnesty. Of the three candidates, he offers us the best chance of having brains, reason, and logic in the White House, IMHO. (That's not to say that he offers us a good chance, just the best chance, which isn't saying much.)
 
You guys need to drop this. It's a silly fear. The super delegates don't have some deceitful mission to put hillary in place if she otherwise loses, stop losing sleep over it.
 
Don't you hate it when you think things through, come to a rational decision, try to persuade other to your point of view...and then find yourself on the same side of the issue as this guy?

 
what, Obama's too good to play by the DNC rules? 😉

the super delegates are supposed to be independent voters, not a reflection of the popular vote... saying that they should stfu and go along with whatever the popular vote is seems to be on about the same level as saying that the FL/MI delegates should be seated.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
what, Obama's too good to play by the DNC rules? 😉

the super delegates are supposed to be independent voters, not a reflection of the popular vote... saying that they should stfu and go along with whatever the popular vote is seems to be on about the same level as saying that the FL/MI delegates should be seated.
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Well, they were created to be independent to prevent someone the party elite absolutely didn't want on the ticket because they were a whacko that somehow generated widespread populist appeal guaranteed to lose in the general election(RP!). Since this year the electorate seems evenly split, and the candidates both so similar policy-wise, it'd be hazardous to the party's health for them to overrule the will of the party at large as voice by the pledged delegate count and popular vote. No?
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: loki8481
what, Obama's too good to play by the DNC rules? 😉

the super delegates are supposed to be independent voters, not a reflection of the popular vote... saying that they should stfu and go along with whatever the popular vote is seems to be on about the same level as saying that the FL/MI delegates should be seated.
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Well, they were created to be independent to prevent someone the party elite absolutely didn't want on the ticket because they were a whacko that somehow generated widespread populist appeal guaranteed to lose in the general election(RP!). Since this year the electorate seems evenly split, and the candidates both so similar policy-wise, it'd be hazardous to the party's health for them to overrule the will of the party at large as voice by the pledged delegate count and popular vote. No?
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they should vote for whichever nomination they think will be best for the party in the long run.

but it doesn't really matter. Obama's got this thing locked up.
 
Gore will get the nomination before this happens. A plague that kills conservative fascists will mutate off the staphylococcus virus before this happens. I will fall off Hellfire into an Azerothianan treasure trove of T6 gear before this happens. But I guess, If I really want to exercise my indignation and fantasize my need to punish my worthless self with all kinds of false indignation, fear and rage, I can rub meat sauce on my skin and go lay in a bed of red ants. "Oh Look what these dirty bastards are doing to me. Oh man, life really sucks!"
 
I'm personally voting for McCain if Obama doesn't win the democratic nomination. I can't get a good feel for anything Hillary says, at all, and I think her real opinions have been hidden under all the poll tested crap she does.

I won't vote for someone I can't even hope to predict, at all.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481but it doesn't really matter. Obama's got this thing locked up.
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You really think Obama has it locked up? I won't be at all surprised if Hillary ends up being the candidate. I don't think he has it locked up by any means and like the topic says, there's always those nefarious superdelegates...
 
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: loki8481
but it doesn't really matter. Obama's got this thing locked up.
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You really think Obama has it locked up? I won't be at all surprised if Hillary ends up being the candidate. I don't think he has it locked up by any means and like the topic says, there's always those nefarious superdelegates...
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I don't see a likely situation in which she can still win this thing. it was over on Feb. 6th after Hillary failed to deliver a decisive victory on super tuesday.

the only real question in my mind is whether she'd try and force herself onto the ticket in a VP slot, but who knows if she'd even want it. going from powerful senator to figurehead VP is a bit of a downgrade, and would she really want to spend another 8 years overshadowed by another man?
 
I don't understand all the fuss over the supers. I'm sure Obama supporters would scream if Ted Kennedy pulled his endorsement from Obama and cast his super vote to Hillary, just because she won Masschusetts.

The supers have been given the responsibility of casting powerful votes. For as long as these are the rules, they should cast those votes in whatever way they see as best for their party. No different from the way you and I are supposed to cast our votes. I don't have a right to complain about how you cast your vote or how they cast theirs.
 
Originally posted by: RY62
I don't understand all the fuss over the supers. I'm sure Obama supporters would scream if Ted Kennedy pulled his endorsement from Obama and cast his super vote to Hillary, just because she won Masschusetts.

The supers have been given the responsibility of casting powerful votes. For as long as these are the rules, they should cast those votes in whatever way they see as best for their party. No different from the way you and I are supposed to cast our votes. I don't have a right to complain about how you cast your vote or how they cast theirs.
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I think you are right. With great power comes great responsibility.
 
gotta love politics. last major election was the only time i have ever walked into a booth and pulled lever to vote a party, across the board, and it was for the dems. this year i'm swinging to reps because the dem choices are pathetic and don't trust clinton or obama further then i could throw them. would love to see the supers pick clinton, and watch the dems destroy themselves.

btw...who is the libertarian candidate.....hmmmmmmm
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
You guys need to drop this. It's a silly fear. The super delegates don't have some deceitful mission to put hillary in place if she otherwise loses, stop losing sleep over it.
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The Billary campaign is clearly pursuimg a victory, in spite of pledged delegates/votes/states won etc, by attempting to get super delegates on their side. No matter the vote.

There are reports that Billary is also actively pursuing Obama's pledged delegates to get them to vote for HRC.

News reports continue to say that the Billary campaign is becoming more brazen & outspoken about pursuing this strategy.

I think the MSM is making the Dem nomination process, and super delegates very well know in effort to avoid the overrule of the popular vote by super delegates.

Some say this is why super delegates exist - to overthrow the popular vote. Seems to me a better reason for them is in the event of a brokered convention with 3 nominees. No way really to determine who won +50% of the vote or pledged delegates.

On a side note, I get a kick out of McCain bashing Obama. He would much rather run against Billary.

Fern
 
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