If something is legal, is it also definitely moral and ethical?

[Garet Jax]

 

[kranky]

Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

 

[HappyFace]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

Uh oh, here we go... 😀

 

[Garet Jax]

Somebody voted yes. 😕

Probably just to make sure the poll isn't unanimous.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

Too bad you managed to slip through the cracks.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

What ragingBITCH said

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

Too bad you managed to slip through the cracks.

That's because your mother missed her appointment

 

[Descartes]

You're dealing with entirely disparate issues:

For the most part, there is no perception of what's legislatively right or wrong; there is law, and it's either legal or it isn't. I understand there are higher-level issues that require higher-level decisions, but lets keep this simple. Laws are for the most part unambiguous.

There are many independent perceptions of what's considered morally/ethically right and wrong. As noted above, many people feel that abortion is morally wrong, but it's not illegal. Some cultures feel that honor killings are moral, whereas it's quite illegal in most countries. There is no branch of government directly coupled to all the independent perceptions of what's morally/ethically right of wrong; they're disjoint. What constitutes morals and ethics is entirely ambiguous.

So, the key difference is an that of ambiguity. There are of course institutions that enforce a moral/ethical code that make it not ambiguous as well.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Descartes
You're dealing with entirely disparate issues:

For the most part, there is no perception of what's legislatively right or wrong; there is law, and it's either legal or it isn't. I understand there are higher-level issues that require higher-level decisions, but lets keep this simple. Laws are for the most part unambiguous.

There are many independent perceptions of what's considered morally/ethically right and wrong. As noted above, many people feel that abortion is morally wrong, but it's not illegal. Some cultures feel that honor killings are moral, whereas it's quite illegal in most countries. There is no branch of government directly coupled to all the independent perceptions of what's morally/ethically right of wrong; they're disjoint. What constitutes morals and ethics is entirely ambiguous.

So, the key difference is an that of ambiguity. There are of course institutions that enforce a moral/ethical code that make it not ambiguous as well.

Thanks.

This was a fun thread before this post. 😀

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Descartes
You're dealing with entirely disparate issues:

For the most part, there is no perception of what's legislatively right or wrong; there is law, and it's either legal or it isn't. I understand there are higher-level issues that require higher-level decisions, but lets keep this simple. Laws are for the most part unambiguous.

There are many independent perceptions of what's considered morally/ethically right and wrong. As noted above, many people feel that abortion is morally wrong, but it's not illegal. Some cultures feel that honor killings are moral, whereas it's quite illegal in most countries. There is no branch of government directly coupled to all the independent perceptions of what's morally/ethically right of wrong; they're disjoint. What constitutes morals and ethics is entirely ambiguous.

Which is why many people subscribe to the teachings contained in a book called the Bible. It gives a foundation of what is right and wrong. Never have to wonder if suicide is okay or not. Never have to wonder if abortion is okay or not. It's all contained therein.
So, the key difference is an that of ambiguity. There are of course institutions that enforce a moral/ethical code that make it not ambiguous as well.

 

[Ameesh]

definitely not, morals and ethics are completely subjective things, one mans immoral action is another mans common day practice.

 

Let's reverse the topic.

If something is illegal is it morally and ethically wrong?

 

[Broohaha]

Originally posted by: SammySon
Let's reverse the topic. If something is illegal is it morally and ethically wrong?

R

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
definitely not, morals and ethics are completely subjective things, one mans immoral action is another mans common day practice.

Which is why it is much easier to have a standard that you can measure yourself against.

 

[duke]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

What ragingBITCH said

 

[Pandaren]

Legality and Morality are two different realms.

For example, if I see someone who can't swim fall into a pond and thrash around, and it is obvious that they will drown, I am not obligated in most states to render any aid.

More generally, I am not liable for nonfeasance (doing nothing).

That being said, I would try to save the drowning person from the pond, as I can swim well. 🙂

 

[Vic]

As I posted in the other thread:

law != morality

Just because something is illegal does not necessarily make it immoral, nor does something legal automatically have moral license.

 

[Konigin]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: kranky
Clearly not. If I come up with a new way to scam people out of money, it may be legal but not ethical or moral.

Right. Just because abortion is legal, doesn't make it right either.

omg. abortion is the best idea evar. We are overpopulated with idiots anyway.

Too bad you managed to slip through the cracks.

Haha, owned!

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Broohaha

Originally posted by: SammySon
Let's reverse the topic. If something is illegal is it morally and ethically wrong?

R

LOL