If someone doesn't practice YOUR religion, are they going to hell?

[PistachioByAzul]

by sending non-believers to hell God is showing his love for you by giving you what you want, because on earth you didn't accept or want God in your life, God just sends you hell so you would never have to worry about worshipping, or praising God, why send someone that believes in worshipping idols or something like that to heaven if he doesn't worship God

Then God is one egotistical SOB. Why does he need us to praise and worship him if he's so great? What's wrong with worshipping idols anyway? How do you know that the idols aren't the real Gods, and your God is just a fake one?

 

[psteng19]

<< If someone doesn't practice YOUR religion, are they going to hell? >>


YES - I am Christian


<< Picture it this way, you are a member of a small tribe on a remote, undiscovered island. Let's assume that they have no organized religion, have no word in their language for &quot;god&quot; or &quot;religion,&quot; and have never been in contact with the outside world. Would they go to Hell? Is ignorance of God no excuse? >>


i don't remember the exact Bible verse that would answer this question, but it goes a little something like, God has made it apparent/obvious enough for you to know that there is a God.

It may seem unfair, but God created us, and has the power to do whatever he wants with us. Don't argue with me, argue with Him.

 

[LordMaul]

<< Actually, I think that they are just forced to watch a marathon of &quot;Three's Company&quot;. >>




AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


Or those that are REALLY, REALLY bad are forced to watch 6 hours of &quot;Petticoat Junction&quot; with a finale of &quot;Green Acres&quot;...*shrudder*

 

[NFS4]

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<< If someone doesn't practice YOUR religion, are they going to hell? >>


YES - I am Christian


<< Picture it this way, you are a member of a small tribe on a remote, undiscovered island. Let's assume that they have no organized religion, have no word in their language for &quot;god&quot; or &quot;religion,&quot; and have never been in contact with the outside world. Would they go to Hell? Is ignorance of God no excuse? >>


i don't remember the exact Bible verse that would answer this question, but it goes a little something like, God has made it apparent/obvious enough for you to know that there is a God.

It may seem unfair, but God created us, and has the power to do whatever he wants with us. Don't argue with me, argue with Him. >>


Damn, God is one jealous old man That'd be like my parents exciling me to Antartica if I didn't grow up to be a lawyer or a doctor.

Too bad you don't have me as a God. I'd let you guys do what you want and let the local governments sort out the rest.

 

[bigdog1218]

I praise God because God gave me life, and a good one too, God also gave us earth and many other great things and I didn't mean to say worshipping idols was bad, go ahead do whatever you want, i just saying that according to what i believe in someone that worshipped idols would go to hell, and i don't understand why you say God is egotistical, i mean if you life your life without God then you are sent to a place where no God exists, you're simply getting what you wanted

 

[PistachioByAzul]

i just saying that according to what i believe

It's just that, what you believe. So what makes your beliefs more valid than the beliefs of the other 5 billion people on this planet?

When you stand back from religion you see how silly it is, everyone is just grasping at straws. People can't conceptualize the fact that others have the same level of conviction for their own beliefs, which objectively, are no more valid than yours.

If you're in a room full of people and they're all telling you something different, when you have no way of knowing who is right, as far as you should be concerned they're all wrong.

 

[compuwiz1]

I don't believe they are going to hell. I feel that ones relationship with God is a more personal matter. I despise organized religion, charisma, money glomming cults, especially.

 

[db]

I wish that more people who call themselves Christians would subscribe to what Isla said. For many people, it's just another snobby club or clique they belong to, but with the exception that they have &quot;devine permission&quot; to be elite.

 

[bigdog1218]

my beliefs are what they are, mine, i never said they were more valid than anyone elses, and


<< People can't conceptualize the fact that others have the same level of conviction for their own beliefs >>


what people are you talking about, i mean, everyone on earth, you, people you know, thats a pretty generalized statement that doesnt't really say anything meaningful

 

[pg22]

They should force people to read this book.

 

[Pyro]

wow, so many people belive that other people who dont follow their religion are going to hell...


Have these people ever stoped to think, &quot;What makes my god more valid that my neighbour's (who is of different religion)?&quot;


The whole notion of religion and gods is so self contradicting and absurd that I love my own belief: You die, you cease to exist. No soul, no hell, no reincarnation.

 

[Raspewtin]

hell and heaven is an attitude, whether you are alive or dead. anyone can be in either place anytime they choose. my opinion.


Heaven/hell is used as a trump card by most religions to persue an agenda of social engineering and control (let's face it, how many people who preach about heaven would you really want to be stuck for eternity with? very few), allowing them to reward and punish freely without any real cost. This is obvious b/c what people think you'll go to hell for now is very different than what they though around here 100 years ago. Peoples opinions of heaven and hell change as the social engineering needs of major religions and strength of religious institutions change.



<< by sending non-believers to hell God is showing his love for you by giving you what you want >>



lol. that would be a funny bumper sticker. &quot;God is sending you to to hell b/c he loves you; after all the alternative is eternity with me&quot;

 

[KingA21]

<< wow, so many people belive that other people who dont follow their religion are going to hell...


Have these people ever stoped to think, &quot;What makes my god more valid that my neighbour's (who is of different religion)?&quot;


The whole notion of religion and gods is so self contradicting and absurd that I love my own belief: You die, you cease to exist. No sould, no hell, no reincarnation. >>



I don't know, but your belief is kinda creepy. What if we really did cease to exist. Why would there be a point in living. According to you, you would have no problem in killing yourself because you would not remember what happens to you. You just cease to exist.

I personally think that if you are a Christian or anyone who truly believes in Christ and know that He has died for us, then you will go to heaven.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

my beliefs are what they are, mine, i never said they were more valid than anyone elses

In order to believe in a particular religion you have to believe that all other religious beliefs are wrong. But most people don't really believe, it's just wishful thinking, and they know deep down that they have no concept of how or why they're here.

what people are you talking about, i mean, everyone on earth, you, people you know, thats a pretty generalized statement that doesnt't really say anything meaningful

It says that you are no different than anyone else, therefore you are just as wrong as they are.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

I don't know, but your belief is kinda creepy. What if we really did cease to exist. Why would there be a point in living. According to you, you would have no problem in killing yourself because you would not remember what happens to you. You just cease to exist.

The truth hurts, it's scary. Or so it seems on the surface, that's why most people turn to religion. When you say it's creepy, you just explained why you yourself are a Christian, you're hiding from what you know deep down is reality.

We live because there is no point in NOT living and experiencing everything there is to experience. Embracing your own insignificance will take you higher than any religion promises to take you.

 

[Aihyah]

yup, your soul is duplicated and one is sent to a hell for each religion you did not follow

 

[NovaTone]

<< I don't think so, it certainly seems unfair if that is the case.

Picture it this way, you are a member of a small tribe on a remote, undiscovered island. Let's assume that they have no organized religion, have no word in their language for &quot;god&quot; or &quot;religion,&quot; and have never been in contact with the outside world. Would they go to Hell? Is ignorance of God no excuse? >>



Even then, just by looking around at nature and their environment, they should be able to deduce that there must be some greater force that created this place. Nothing can't come from nothing. Just look at how amazing it is to see the order in nature. How can this come from mothing?

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

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<< I am a christian. I follow Christs teaching. I believe he is Gods son and he is my savior. I also believe that God is a god of Love. He did not creat us to turn around and condemn us to be forever in &quot;hell&quot; tortured for eternity. That is worshop of an unloving god. My beliefs are God does not condemn people to hell because there is no hell. >>

So what exactly is Jesus saving you from? Why believe that at all? >>

What if hell is eternal separation from your Creator, and to never know truth again.

 

[NovaTone]

<< I am a christian. I follow Christs teaching. I believe he is Gods son and he is my savior. I also believe that God is a god of Love. He did not creat us to turn around and condemn us to be forever in &quot;hell&quot; tortured for eternity. That is worshop of an unloving god. My beliefs are God does not condemn people to hell because there is no hell. >>



Hell is symbolic of eternal separation from God. It was our sin that resulted in our separation from God. Because God is holy (set apart; without sin), sin cannot exist in His presence. For those who didn't believe, they died in their sin, thus they will be forever separated from God (eternal separation). God demonstrates His love for us in this; while we were still sinners (on earth), He sent His son (Christ) to die for OUR sins. Thus our sin has been forgiven allowing us to come into God's presence (heaven). God is a God of love; however, because he is just (not allowing sin in His presence) people who did not believe must be separated from Him.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Just look at how amazing it is to see the order in nature. How can this come from mothing?

How can it not? What do we know afterall..

 

[Aihyah]

Just look at how amazing it is to see the order in nature. How can this come from mothing?

yup, the suffering and cruelty in nature had to come from somewhere right?

 

[NFS4]

<< Even then, just by looking around at nature and their environment, they should be able to deduce that there must be some greater force that created this place. Nothing can't come from nothing. Just look at how amazing it is to see the order in nature. How can this come from mothing? >>


And what if that person deduces that multiple Gods created what they see around them (God of Earth, Water, Wind, Fire). That doesn't seem so hard to conjure up if you don't know anything else. Seems that God would be pretty pissed if they didn't think that it was HIM that did all of that.

What makes you think that they are gonna say &quot;Hmmm, I think ONE god named God created this in 6 days then sipped on a latte on the 7th day.&quot;

 

[BurntKooshie]

From a quote file I have....



<< &quot;A thermodynamics professor had written a take home exam for his graduate students. It had one question: 'Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Support your answer with a proof.' Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following: 'First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So, we need to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they ar leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there are more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change in the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand as souls are added. This gives two possibilities: #1 If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. #2 Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Ms. Therese Banyan during my Freshman year, `that it will be a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you,` and we take into account the fact that I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then #2 cannot be true, and so Hell is exothermic.'&quot; -Anonymous >>

 

[NovaTone]

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And what if that person deduces that multiple Gods created what they see around them (God of Earth, Water, Wind, Fire). That doesn't seem so hard to conjure up if you don't know anything else. Seems that God would be pretty pissed if they didn't think that it was HIM that did all of that.

What makes you think that they are gonna say &quot;Hmmm, I think ONE god named God created this in 6 days then sipped on a latte on the 7th day.&quot; >>



And this is a difficult topic. As in many issues going around today, we may not know the answer until all is said and done. We will not necessarily always understand how God works.

 

[Pyro]

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I don't know, but your belief is kinda creepy. What if we really did cease to exist. Why would there be a point in living. According to you, you would have no problem in killing yourself because you would not remember what happens to you. You just cease to exist.

I personally think that if you are a Christian or anyone who truly believes in Christ and know that He has died for us, then you will go to heaven. >>



creepy? I call it real. Such beliefs are not for everysone, since few people can handle them.
I never said there was a point living. The way I see it, we are here for a short time and should make the most of our time. Many friends have asked me why I dont jsut go and kill myself if I believe that. Well the answer is simple. Why should I? My marks are good, I got friends, I go out and have fun...
Just because there is no point in life or no afterlife, does that mean I can't have fun and live life to its fullest?