If Plasma is superior to LCD, and cheaper, why is it not selling well?

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HeXen

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I have a Plasma and was hardly impressed. THat and if I leave a dvd on pause too long I can still see the image when screen is black. It gets pretty warm, I never saw the image quality everyone talked about, movies have this weird pixel issue that reminds me of being on LSD sometimes.
 

Pacfanweb

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I have a Plasma and was hardly impressed. THat and if I leave a dvd on pause too long I can still see the image when screen is black. It gets pretty warm, I never saw the image quality everyone talked about, movies have this weird pixel issue that reminds me of being on LSD sometimes.

What brand and model is it? They all aren't the same.
 

Pacfanweb

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I have to lean over the top of my plasma while the tv is on mute to hear any buzzing sound. .

Depends on your hearing.

People tend to forget that CRT's had a pretty prominent high-pitched noise, too. My Dad couldn't hear it, but I could, from across the room if it was quiet. People just blocked it out.
 

HeXen

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LG. I dunno what model offhand, 2 years old and almost $2k back then. Don't care if their not all the same, what is? I just wouldn't buy another and looks like it's becoming much less of an option anyway.
 

Pacfanweb

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LG. I dunno what model offhand, 2 years old and almost $2k back then. Don't care if their not all the same, what is? I just wouldn't buy another and looks like it's becoming much less of an option anyway.

LG isn't a top-tier Plasma, that's why. There's a significant drop off from Panny/Sammy to LG, and two years ago, it was likely even more pronounced.
 

poofyhairguy

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LG plasmas are rough. Low QC, bad reflective coating, so-so blacks.

Panasonic is best with the deep blacks and amazing motion resolution. But at least Samsungs have really nice colors and good sharpness.

LGs shouldn't be bought. Personally I think everything LG makes that has a screen has QC issues. It like the company's tradition. Crappy plasmas, LEDs, Nexus phones with issues, etc.
 

Dari

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LG plasmas are rough. Low QC, bad reflective coating, so-so blacks.

Panasonic is best with the deep blacks and amazing motion resolution. But at least Samsungs have really nice colors and good sharpness.

LGs shouldn't be bought. Personally I think everything LG makes that has a screen has QC issues. It like the company's tradition. Crappy plasmas, LEDs, Nexus phones with issues, etc.

iPad and iPhone screens says you're wrong.
 

olds

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I have a Plasma and was hardly impressed. THat and if I leave a dvd on pause too long I can still see the image when screen is black. It gets pretty warm, I never saw the image quality everyone talked about, movies have this weird pixel issue that reminds me of being on LSD sometimes.
Turn 3D off.
 

Wingznut

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I have a Plasma and was hardly impressed. THat and if I leave a dvd on pause too long I can still see the image when screen is black. It gets pretty warm, I never saw the image quality everyone talked about, movies have this weird pixel issue that reminds me of being on LSD sometimes.

LG. I dunno what model offhand, 2 years old and almost $2k back then. Don't care if their not all the same, what is? I just wouldn't buy another and looks like it's becoming much less of an option anyway.
That's kind of like saying, "I had a Porsche, and wasn't impressed. It was a 924, doesn't matter, won't buy another Porsche."

If you had owned a nicer unit (say, a Panasonic), I guarantee you wouldn't have the same opinion.
 

poofyhairguy

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iPad and iPhone screens says you're wrong.

Note I didn't say every LG screen has issues. They have some nice ones.

Just when they put together the entire device themselves there is always some sort of issue with their electronics.

For example, the G2 screen is more reflective than many competitors and the Android skin sucks:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-held-back-by-some-pretty-not-good-software/

The Nexus 4 had issues. The LG Vipers and Lucid phones overheat. Heck even their highend washers with screens and electronics in them aren't built to last:

http://consumerist.com/2012/08/29/lg-rep-washers-and-dryers-are-not-meant-to-last/

LG's products consistently have issues. Source some parts from them but never buy their finished products unless its cheap and you can suffer the issues (like a Nexus 5).
 

slag

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^^^ ignorant consumer

He's right on actually.

I fixed a 60 inch LG plasma this weekend. Without the base, the TV weighs 137 lbs. That is big and heavy.

A 60 inch LED tv weighs 60 lbs. It is also much thinner.

I have DLP, LCD, LED, and Plasma technologies in the house and they all have their benefits.
 

Anubis

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my 60" plasma only weighs 75 lbs, its also onlu ~2 inches thick

they really are not THAT much heavier/thicker unless you have a really old one
 

Zivic

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He's right on actually.

I fixed a 60 inch LG plasma this weekend. Without the base, the TV weighs 137 lbs. That is big and heavy.

A 60 inch LED tv weighs 60 lbs. It is also much thinner.

I have DLP, LCD, LED, and Plasma technologies in the house and they all have their benefits.


the weight is a non issue unless you plan on holding onto it the entire life of the display.
 

Wingznut

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He's right on actually.

I fixed a 60 inch LG plasma this weekend. Without the base, the TV weighs 137 lbs. That is big and heavy.

A 60 inch LED tv weighs 60 lbs. It is also much thinner.
my 60" plasma only weighs 75 lbs, its also onlu ~2 inches thick

they really are not THAT much heavier/thicker unless you have a really old one
My 65" Panny Plasma is 97 lbs, and 1.5" thick.

the weight is a non issue unless you plan on holding onto it the entire life of the display.
Exactly. Like anyone has ever chosen a couch before, based on its weight? Once it's in it's place (on the stand, or the wall), how often do you guys move your TV that weight is a factor?
 

SlitheryDee

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my 60" plasma only weighs 75 lbs, its also onlu ~2 inches thick

they really are not THAT much heavier/thicker unless you have a really old one

My 50" plasma was light enough for me to handle by myself when mounting it. The way I see it, if you can handle an LCD of a certain size, you can also handle a modern plasma of the same size with a negligible difference in difficulty.
 

slag

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my 60" plasma only weighs 75 lbs, its also onlu ~2 inches thick

they really are not THAT much heavier/thicker unless you have a really old one

I do have a really old one. The picture quality is pretty good and it has nice features. I have a panasonic 42 and a samsung 42 plasma that have better features, but for the $100.00 I paid for it, this LG is nothing to sneeze at. It is a HEAVY beast though. Assuming I keep it, I'm kind of scared about mounting it to a wall.
 

sdifox

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I do have a really old one. The picture quality is pretty good and it has nice features. I have a panasonic 42 and a samsung 42 plasma that have better features, but for the $100.00 I paid for it, this LG is nothing to sneeze at. It is a HEAVY beast though. Assuming I keep it, I'm kind of scared about mounting it to a wall.


you can mount anything on the wall as long as you put in enough screws into the stud.
 

slag

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My 65" Panny Plasma is 97 lbs, and 1.5" thick.


Exactly. Like anyone has ever chosen a couch before, based on its weight? Once it's in it's place (on the stand, or the wall), how often do you guys move your TV that weight is a factor?

No, weight is a concern. There are many stands and wall mounts that I have to now discount because they can't support the weight of this screen. I'm also leery of of it because of how heavy it is. This thing can kill small children. And, due to it's bulk and weight, it definitely requires 2 people to move it when we do which has been a few times this past weekend.

With an LCD or LED TV of the same size, I don't have any of these concerns.
 

sdifox

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No, weight is a concern. There are many stands and wall mounts that I have to now discount because they can't support the weight of this screen. I'm also leery of of it because of how heavy it is. This thing can kill small children. And, due to it's bulk and weight, it definitely requires 2 people to move it when we do which has been a few times this past weekend.

With an LCD or LED TV of the same size, I don't have any of these concerns.

You move TV about all the time? Any TV can kill a small child.
 

poofyhairguy

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No, weight is a concern. There are many stands and wall mounts that I have to now discount because they can't support the weight of this screen. I'm also leery of of it because of how heavy it is. This thing can kill small children. And, due to it's bulk and weight, it definitely requires 2 people to move it when we do which has been a few times this past weekend.

With an LCD or LED TV of the same size, I don't have any of these concerns.

Well if you prefer to move your TVs rather than watch them, then LED is a clear winner.
 

slag

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the weight is a non issue unless you plan on holding onto it the entire life of the display.

I think you are confused about why people say weight matters. The weight of an object determines where you can mount it and what you can put it on. I'm not talking about holding onto this thing every night while watching tv, but yes, weight and bulk of an item determines many things. I'm looking for stands and mounting brackets and many of them say they are for TV's up to 65 inches, but with a max weight of 120 to 165 lbs, I have to be selective about what I order. Finding a cheap enough stand that doesn't eclipse the cost of this TV is nearly impossible. I'm not going to spend $300-$400 for a stand for this tv when its probably not worth more than $300.00 currently anyway.
 

sdifox

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I think you are confused about why people say weight matters. The weight of an object determines where you can mount it and what you can put it on. I'm not talking about holding onto this thing every night while watching tv, but yes, weight and bulk of an item determines many things. I'm looking for stands and mounting brackets and many of them say they are for TV's up to 65 inches, but with a max weight of 120 to 165 lbs, I have to be selective about what I order. Finding a cheap enough stand that doesn't eclipse the cost of this TV is nearly impossible. I'm not going to spend $300-$400 for a stand for this tv when its probably not worth more than $300.00 currently anyway.


how many 65" tv that is above 165lbs are there??? 50" Panny U series is about 68 lb.

http://www.panasonic.com/business/plasma/TH-50PH30U.asp


65" Panny is 132lb

http://www.panasonic.com/business/plasma/TH-65PF30U.asp#specs

and those net weight probably include the super heavy base that you don't need when you mount on wall.
 
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iRONic

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I think you are confused about why people say weight matters. The weight of an object determines where you can mount it and what you can put it on. I'm not talking about holding onto this thing every night while watching tv, but yes, weight and bulk of an item determines many things. I'm looking for stands and mounting brackets and many of them say they are for TV's up to 65 inches, but with a max weight of 120 to 165 lbs, I have to be selective about what I order. Finding a cheap enough stand that doesn't eclipse the cost of this TV is nearly impossible. I'm not going to spend $300-$400 for a stand for this tv when its probably not worth more than $300.00 currently anyway.
So basically not your average, every day situation for a majority of consumers?
 

Anubis

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how old is that plasma? ill agree that if it weighs that much it can get annoting but they are generally much lighter now