Does nobody comprehend math?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSalary?categoryId=67048
NFL Salary Cap: $102 million
Colts Payroll: $69 million
Payton Manning's Salary: $670k
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSalary?categoryId=67048
NFL Salary Cap: $102 million
Colts Payroll: $69 million
Payton Manning's Salary: $670k
I don't think its really going to matter what team he plays for because imo he is the reason the colts havent won a superbowl. You can blame the colts defense all you want, but in reality he is the one who performs poorly in the playoffs. If you look at the numbers the defense usually plays about the same in the playoffs as they were playing during the regular season, but peyton's performance drops during the playoffs.
Imo peyton is a great quarterback, but he doesn't seem to be able to deal with immense pressure well like in a playoff game.
Imo peyton is a great quarterback, but he doesn't seem to be able to deal with immense pressure well like in a playoff game.
Those numbers are wrong. they are last year's salary with players moved to current teams. Anyhow the colts payroll maybe 69 million but their cap figure much higher. If that was accurate then the Falcons are over the salary cap. Anyhow Peyton took home a fat check a few years ago. But how his salary is counted towards the cap is broken up over the years.
anyhow USA today is more accurate. link
Provides not just player salary but also their cap value.
Did I just dream of him having a perfect passer rating in the playoffs vs Denver recently? I must have since you said his performance ALWAYS drop.
You mentioned the problem, the D plays the exact same which is bad. When you must consistently score 30-40 pts to win a game it will bite you.
from wikipedia:
In 2004, Manning became the highest-paid player in NFL history at the time, signing a $99.2m contract for seven years with a $34.5m signing bonus, which averages out to $14.17m annually. Under the contract, Manning is also eligible to earn an extra $19m in incentives.[citation needed]
So Edge was a bigger cap hit yet Manning is blamed? What did they do w/ that money when he left? Seems they could have bought a decent defense but didn't. I guess Manning makes personnel decisions too.
Deeko
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they are coaches, not players, and yea Peyton could "retire" from the NFL but then he'd have to pay back much of his salary cap and it would be a fight for him to play for anyone else. You can't just "quit" on a team. You can hold out, but you can't "quit", and the Colts sure as sh!t aren't about to let go the best QB in the league, whom they've invested 10 years and many millions of dollars in.
Peyton gets blamed because his 99 million dollar deal and subsequent extension to help with cap space would still be around the next 5-6 years at least if not longer.
Edge had a high cap figure in 2005 because his contract was already up after the 2004 season. they franchised him, which is just a 1 year contract. so they can't spread the cap charge over a few seasons.
I dunno what they did with the money the salary cap increased nearly 17 million dollars from 05 to 06 and the colts were some 9 million or so under the 102 million dollar cap. Whether that 9 mil under before the season started already factored in Marvin's extension I don't know.
Anyhow I don't think even peyton can take a pay cut that will really help the team. I mean if I was playing and already got a 100 million dollar deal. and was deseperate I'd sign on for a few more years at 1 dollar and spread cap hits over the extra years. Only thing stopping would be the players association who would file complaints about it.
This off season will be telling of the colts. they let go of two players they could've used this year Larry Tripplett the DT and David Thorton the LB.
Dwight Freeney I know contract is up and some offensive players too like Dallas Clark. It'll tell us which direction the organization is going.
Where are you getting $670k for Manning's salary...? maybe in 2005. This year his salary is paying him $1.0M and has a potential of $9.0M in bonuses.
He'll have to pay back some of his signing bonus money. But that's only if the team wants to be mean and demand some of it back. The team isn't relived of the cap charges a former player's contract incurs either(retires, traded). The niners have been using the "dead weight" excuse the last few years for not signing players.
Deeko
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Peyton's posteason numbers: 193/322(59.9%), 2,461 yd(7.64), 15 td(4.66%), 8 int (2.48%), 89.05 QB rating
Brady's postseason numbers: 225/367(61%) 2493 yds(6.79), 15 TD(4.08%), 5 int(1.36%), 89.42 QB rating
So, pretty similar, Peyton with a higher YPA and higher TD%, Brady with a higher completion and lower int%. Virtually identical ratings. Both have played VERY well in the playoffs, the difference being Brady has a defense to support him.
ps my numbers came from Wikipedia
Brady's postseason numbers: 225/367(61%) 2493 yds(6.79), 15 TD(4.08%), 5 int(1.36%), 89.42 QB rating
So, pretty similar, Peyton with a higher YPA and higher TD%, Brady with a higher completion and lower int%. Virtually identical ratings. Both have played VERY well in the playoffs, the difference being Brady has a defense to support him.
ps my numbers came from Wikipedia
Everyone loves to blame the Colts defense. It's true they do give up a lot of points.
But that's because all the money goes into the offense. They have the best 2 WR combination of Harrison and Wayne, and O-line that is close to best in the league, a great receiving TE Dallas Clark. They use to have the Edge, now they have a 1st round pick RB Addai. And of course there's Peyton Manning.
And I somehow remember that the Colts scored only 3 points in a playoff game against the Pats. You can say they scored a ton against Denver in the playoffs, but when with that kind of an explosive offense, they are suppose to score a lot, and when they don't, they lose. Manning has to come through on every game, and he just doesn't do it on some playoff games.
But that's because all the money goes into the offense. They have the best 2 WR combination of Harrison and Wayne, and O-line that is close to best in the league, a great receiving TE Dallas Clark. They use to have the Edge, now they have a 1st round pick RB Addai. And of course there's Peyton Manning.
And I somehow remember that the Colts scored only 3 points in a playoff game against the Pats. You can say they scored a ton against Denver in the playoffs, but when with that kind of an explosive offense, they are suppose to score a lot, and when they don't, they lose. Manning has to come through on every game, and he just doesn't do it on some playoff games.
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Did you even watch the Steelers game last year? The Colts o-line was awful! It was also years before any of them were voted to the Pro-Bowl. If you build a team that must score 30-40 pts a game to win then you will get bitten.
That's his base salary. You have to include his signing bonus (which I think was pro-rated) and then you'll get his salary cap hit.
http://www.coltfreaks.com/index.php?call=bios 10.6 million cap hit in 2006 (9.62% of the 102 million NFL salary cap). Next year the salary cap goes higher but so does Manning's cap hit as his base salary increases.
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About 30 or so players for each team play in an NFL game. You do realize that, right? Its not a difficult concept. Players make plays. Teams win games. If statistically what Peyton is doing is about the same as what Brady is doing, how can you say Brady is a much better player? Also, Brady is allowed to play "safer" football and not take as many chances, because he has a defense capable of stopping the other team. Who is to say that Peyton wouldn't be undefeated and have a 100 playoff rating if he had a better defense? Its not even that they don't score points - they do - Manning has NOTHING to do with how many points the other team scores.
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by the way, you certainly sound like a Pats fan, so I understand your point of view, but remember that I am a fan of a team that also had a QB win 3 superbowls in 4 years - and go to the championship game in between, as opposed to not making the playoffs. I see Pats fans calling Brady the best or 2nd best QB of all time. Not only do I think that is ridiculous, but I certainly wouldn't even put Aikman there, maybe not even top five.
This is all neither here nor there. The question is should Peyton leave the Colts, and I say no - he's in a high powered offense, and if they manage to get a few good defensive players (and keep the ones they have healthy), they are a superbowl contender every year.
This is all neither here nor there. The question is should Peyton leave the Colts, and I say no - he's in a high powered offense, and if they manage to get a few good defensive players (and keep the ones they have healthy), they are a superbowl contender every year.
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