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If OxyContin is hillbilly heroin then Viagra must be . . .

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Viagra is not just for old men. The blockbuster impotence pill is being used by a growing number of younger men under the age of 55, prescription drug tracking firm Express Scripts reported on Thursday.

The study of more than 5 million insured adults from 1998 to 2002 found the fastest-growing segments of users was men aged 18 to 55 years.
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And fewer of these men are using Viagra because they need to for some medical reason. "These findings suggest increased use of Viagra as an enhancement or recreational agent," the company said in a statement.
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This could be bad news for insurers, Express Scripts said.
Viagra generated sales of $1.9 billion in 2003.

"Already concerned with the impact Viagra has had on their pharmacy budgets, health plan sponsors now face the prospect of increased use among a younger, healthier generation of patients," said Tom Delate, who led the study.
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Bob 'Woody' Dole could be the Poster Boy !

"Hi, I'm Bob Dole & I have a hard-on for American Health"
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If Bush loses I bet Chaney will be the next viagra spokesman. Just a note, if in NYC try to get into their company cafeteria. Best in the city and cheap.
 
I also heard this on NPR news, yesterday:
Viagra's Second Use: Easing Hypertension

All Things Considered audio

Aug. 4, 2004

The erectile dysfunction drug Viagra can also alleviate symptoms of pulmonary hypertension, according to a new study conducted by the University of Geissen. The study's authors report that members of a team of mountain climbers who had taken Viagra were less likely to suffer from pulmonary hypertension at high altitudes.
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Reporter, Melissa Block went on to discuss whether researcher Friedrich Grimminger believed competitive athletes may try to take advantage of this effect to improve their performance. Grimminger replied that it would probably not be a good idea because of other possible dangers of such use.

Of course, I immediately wondered if the first ones to try it would be pole vaulters. :Q 😉
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
I also heard this on NPR news, yesterday:
Viagra's Second Use: Easing Hypertension

All Things Considered audio

Aug. 4, 2004

The erectile dysfunction drug Viagra can also alleviate symptoms of pulmonary hypertension, according to a new study conducted by the University of Geissen. The study's authors report that members of a team of mountain climbers who had taken Viagra were less likely to suffer from pulmonary hypertension at high altitudes.
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Reporter, Melissa Block went on to discuss whether researcher Friedrich Grimminger believed competitive athletes may try to take advantage of this effect to improve their performance. Grimminger replied that it would probably not be a good idea because of other possible dangers of such use.

Of course, I immediately wondered if the first ones to try it would be pole vaulters. :Q 😉
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Or Broad Jumpers!
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
I also heard this on NPR news, yesterday:
Viagra's Second Use: Easing Hypertension

All Things Considered audio

Aug. 4, 2004

The erectile dysfunction drug Viagra can also alleviate symptoms of pulmonary hypertension, according to a new study conducted by the University of Geissen. The study's authors report that members of a team of mountain climbers who had taken Viagra were less likely to suffer from pulmonary hypertension at high altitudes.
Click to expand...
Reporter, Melissa Block went on to discuss whether researcher Friedrich Grimminger believed competitive athletes may try to take advantage of this effect to improve their performance. Grimminger replied that it would probably not be a good idea because of other possible dangers of such use.

Of course, I immediately wondered if the first ones to try it would be pole vaulters. :Q 😉
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Boooo!
 
But remember folks, the rising cost of health care in the US is due to greedy pharmaceutical execs. It has nothing to do with the abuse of the health care and insurance system.

I blame Republicans.
 
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
 
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
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Without Viagra, the ability of Democrats to devise clever quips about Republicans needing to get laid would be irreparably damaged. That alone is worth $1.9B.
 
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
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Hey a Virge sighting 😀 😎 :thumbsup:

I've heard that Viagra has been covered for quite some time now courtesy of the Taxpaying public.

Yet Senior Citizens have to go to Canada to get affordable life saving drugs.

This is the New United States, is everybody proud???
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
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Hey a Virge sighting 😀 😎 :thumbsup:

I've heard that Viagra has been covered for quite some time now courtesy of the Taxpaying public.

Yet Senior Citizens have to go to Canada to get affordable life saving drugs.

This is the New United States, is everybody proud???
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Well, no. Almost no medicaid program picks up for Viagra except in rare circumstances.

Most insurances pay for 4 to 6 tablet a month with the patient paying the lions share of the cost of the med in most cases. The cost to insurance is insignificant.
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
I also heard this on NPR news, yesterday:
Viagra's Second Use: Easing Hypertension

All Things Considered audio

Aug. 4, 2004

The erectile dysfunction drug Viagra can also alleviate symptoms of pulmonary hypertension, according to a new study conducted by the University of Geissen. The study's authors report that members of a team of mountain climbers who had taken Viagra were less likely to suffer from pulmonary hypertension at high altitudes.
Click to expand...
Reporter, Melissa Block went on to discuss whether researcher Friedrich Grimminger believed competitive athletes may try to take advantage of this effect to improve their performance. Grimminger replied that it would probably not be a good idea because of other possible dangers of such use.

Of course, I immediately wondered if the first ones to try it would be pole vaulters. :Q 😉
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Should be easy to spot cheaters.[recalls Road Trip]
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
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Hey a Virge sighting 😀 😎 :thumbsup:

I've heard that Viagra has been covered for quite some time now courtesy of the Taxpaying public.

Yet Senior Citizens have to go to Canada to get affordable life saving drugs.

This is the New United States, is everybody proud???
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Well, no. Almost no medicaid program picks up for Viagra except in rare circumstances.

Most insurances pay for 4 to 6 tablet a month with the patient paying the lions share of the cost of the med in most cases. The cost to insurance is insignificant.
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I would disagree to some extent. While you are correct that Medicaid does not pick up the tab . . . Medicare does. I don't recall how many tabs you get per month but back in my clerkship days (which was less than 2 years ago) Viagra was frequently dispensed as samples and most insurance companies covered the $10/tab price for 'scripts.

I even remember one woman that asked the MD to stop giving her husband Viagra . . . he had Alzheimer disease but he could remember at least one thing . . .

Insurance companies have indeed paid a lot for Viagra . . . and they will pay even more for Cialis and Levitra b/c it's become publicly acceptable to ask for such drugs.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Question: Why is any health care system even covering Viagra? I mean, I could understand if it was even remotely related to health, but I don't know of anyone that's going to die if they can't maintain an erection.
Click to expand...

Hey a Virge sighting 😀 😎 :thumbsup:

I've heard that Viagra has been covered for quite some time now courtesy of the Taxpaying public.

Yet Senior Citizens have to go to Canada to get affordable life saving drugs.

This is the New United States, is everybody proud???
Click to expand...

Well, no. Almost no medicaid program picks up for Viagra except in rare circumstances.

Most insurances pay for 4 to 6 tablet a month with the patient paying the lions share of the cost of the med in most cases. The cost to insurance is insignificant.
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I would disagree to some extent. While you are correct that Medicaid does not pick up the tab . . . Medicare does. I don't recall how many tabs you get per month but back in my clerkship days (which was less than 2 years ago) Viagra was frequently dispensed as samples and most insurance companies covered the $10/tab price for 'scripts.

I even remember one woman that asked the MD to stop giving her husband Viagra . . . he had Alzheimer disease but he could remember at least one thing . . .

Insurance companies have indeed paid a lot for Viagra . . . and they will pay even more for Cialis and Levitra b/c it's become publicly acceptable to ask for such drugs.
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Are you referring to the medicare discount program? Seniors arent getting it at 10 bucks an rx through medicare. They may be getting some off, but not a lot. I dont know what happens in a hospital setting, but I find it amusing to think of people getting this while in the hospital 😀

Two years ago insurance companies DID pick up for a month or more supply. This is not the case now. The standard is 4 to 6 per month if it is covered at all. Even when it is, it is generally third tier. That means that the copayment is usually between 75 and 100 percent of the cost of the med, and usually on the higher end. Cialis and Levitra are the same thing. Typically the patient now pays a 40 dollar copayment on a 45 dollar script. One may argue about the merits of these meds, but this isn't going to break the insurance industry any more than McDonalds is going to go bust because someone put three pickle slices on a burger instead of two.
 
Fair enough, Winston. I no longer see anyone over the age of 19 so I'm a little out of the loop. I still remember the debate during the early days b/c insurance (including Medicare/Medicaid) covered Viagra but rarely covered conception control pills. After the brouhaha, many insurance companies started covering the Pill but over time fewer companies were covering Viagra.

Back in my day . . . like 3 years ago . . . 50mg Viagra was less than $10 but the retail cost for 100mg was over $10. I believe both Cialis and Levitra are priced in the $8-9 range. Europe currently has a drug that knocks all three out of the box but I don't think the company has enough cheddar to bring it to the US.
 
About as harsh as calling inner city blacks welfare queen crack whores. Obviously no one will have a problem with that.

Zephyr
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Harvey
I also heard this on NPR news, yesterday:
Viagra's Second Use: Easing Hypertension

All Things Considered audio

Aug. 4, 2004

The erectile dysfunction drug Viagra can also alleviate symptoms of pulmonary hypertension, according to a new study conducted by the University of Geissen. The study's authors report that members of a team of mountain climbers who had taken Viagra were less likely to suffer from pulmonary hypertension at high altitudes.
Click to expand...
Reporter, Melissa Block went on to discuss whether researcher Friedrich Grimminger believed competitive athletes may try to take advantage of this effect to improve their performance. Grimminger replied that it would probably not be a good idea because of other possible dangers of such use.

Of course, I immediately wondered if the first ones to try it would be pole vaulters. :Q 😉
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Or Broad Jumpers!
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ROTFLMAO at the mad punners!

:laugh:
 
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