If not Geforce2 GTS, what?

[hans007]

in win98 or winme, i could actually agree with bfg10k on this radeon being vastly superior to the v5 thing. But in win2k (AKA a real OS), the radeon sucks my left nut at this point. ATI has horrible driver development , as far as i can tell the ati tv wonder will never have decent drivers... The rage128 (which i bought the month it came out) was obsolete by the time decent drivers came out which was about 3 months ago. The only thing i can give both nvidia and especially 3dfx is that their release drivers ALWAYS work perfectly in win2k and 9x.

 

[RoboTECH]

hehe....seems like we have all the old peeps out here bashing cards here and pimping cards there.

A few points dude:

1) What games do you play? This makes a tremendous difference as to what card you should get

2) How often do you upgrade?

3) Ignore BFG if he makes a comment about 3dfx. He has quite a chip on his shoulder directed towards 3dfx.

4) The concept of "5500 cant' do 133 on a BX board" is pure bunk. It'll do 89 AGP on almost any BX system after you disable the Win98 splash screen.

5) Wingnut - nice reply. You and me sure must be sweating bullets these days, hehehe....

6) Doomguy - having one of today's video cards to play the next Doom would be like having a V2 or a TNT1 for Quake3.

7) I have a hard time believing that the AGP slot on the GX board is your problem. My guess is you got a buggy GTS card or are having driver problems.

 

[EmosOohay]

Sorry for the delay, my DSL was out all weekend. Thanks for all the advice and suggestions - it helps.

Motherboard: Tyan Thunderbolt S1837UANG / 440GX / AGP 2X AMI Bios Version V2.00.09 -- Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222 A -- Pentium III 500Mhz -- 128Mb -- Creative PCI Live Audio Card


My symptoms are the ELSA Gladaic runs in standard VGA mode fine (whoopiee), I speculate drivers not having enabled the GF2, but as soon as I install GF2 drivers the board hangs during the boot process, during the W98SE spash screen. During a stepwise boot process the last thing displayed is starting ASPIENUM.VXD.
It's not ASPIENUM.VXD. If I don't execute it, the sysytem still hangs. Sometimes I get a "Windows Protection Error" error message when I hit a function key.

Does this sound like a current problem?

All that the Tyan web site says is: "The GeForce DDR video card is not compatible with this motherboard". This was posted in March 2000.
I does not address the GF2 GTS version. Tyan has not responded to my several email inquiries (well over a week).

I've tried removing or disabling everything possible, a clean W98SE install, disconnecting the onboard GF2 fan, updating the mobo BIOS, installing the lates 440GX drivers, and trying the lastest ELSA and nvidia drivers without success.

 

[EmosOohay]

I finally broke down and called Tyan tech support today.

All they could add is that ANY Geforce board is not compatible with the S1837 Thunderbolt. The tech did not know why, but assured me that is was NOT a current or voltage problem.

Therefore I can drop any worries about power requirements.

Any speculation as to the cause of the incompatibility? The board has the 440GX AGPset, Intel PIIX4e controller and the National 82351 Super I/O chipset.

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[Wingznut]

Contrary to what the 3dfx haters think...

The V5 is an excellent board.

 

[Akaz1976]

a great deal on trading forum for V5 PCI. 165 shipped i think. at that price i doubt u would find anything to beat this solution of your current problem.

 

[EmosOohay]

Thanks for the tip . . .


What's the difference between the OEM PCI Voodoo and the retail version?

 

[Wingznut]

The box. Oh, and the OEM may not come with the ultra-lame "coloriffic" software.

 

[oldfart]

That PCI V5 fo $165 is a killer deal. You'd be very happy with it.