If North Korea fires another test missile

[SunSamuraix]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: SunSamurai

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Rastus
That missile will be going much too fast by the time it get over Japan to be intercepted by anything known to man (except another ICBM). By an order of magnitude.

Japan and the US are blowing smoke when they talk of intercepting it.

The reentry vehicle is also going way to fast to intercept at the target by Patriots.

An ICBM class rocket must be destroyed within a few seconds of launch. That is what Reagan's Star Wars program was all about.

Two words: RAIL GUN

Railgun is one word, genius.

http://www.answers.com/topic/railgun

As you can see the dictionary has it as "rail gun" not "railgun"

It's written "railgun" in the majority of the information in that very link. Try reading it.

 

[dawp]

who copied who?

wikipedia and answers.com are almost identical.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: dawp
who copied who?

wikipedia and answers.com are almost identical.

Answer.com has it as Rail Gun and then sources wikipedia content.

Who cares how it is written, the goal was to attack me for no reason other than the posters must not like me. It is a pretty petty thing to do.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: destrekor
As far as I know, nothing is stopping anyone from shooting down the missile once it's over sovereign land of any nation other than N.K. In International Waters, they might just kind of let it go, let N.K. feel a little cocky and move on. However, as far as I'm concerned, it basically becomes an open invitation for target practice once the missile is in the air. But with that said, U.S. and allies might not want to go showing off our missile defense ability yet, not until its of grave concern, like if the trajectory is pointing to it landing on some country's land. Not to mention the fact that every missile fired to shoot down a missile in flight would be an unnecessary cost if its not a real threat.

edit: the other issue is what exactly N.K. would do in protest. They are a bunch of testy fools who aren't exactly logical in their approach with the rest of the world, and nobody quite wants to find out what exactly N.K. would do in retaliation for "upsetting" them.

/thread

 

[Lemon law]

I have to somewhat agree with Omar Z, if either the US of Japan tried to shoot down those Korean Rockets, it would expose what a boondoogle and a fraud these anti missile
systems are. These are no rigged tests where the antimissile knows the trajectory and the time of launch in advance, and if the North Korean missile employs any radar jamming technology, its hopeless to expect a hit.

As for hitting Peal Harbor, not a chance, the North Koreans want to show the missile can at least get beyond that little chain of Islands.

 

[Pulsar]

Be very careful what you ask for.

They are using internation air to fire that missle. If you go down the route of shooting things down, what's to say that they or someone else wouldn't be completely justified in shoot down something WE send up, under some false pretense.

Unless we see that rocket on a trajectory to hit something, we'd be exactly what everyone claims we are by shooting it down - a bully throwing their weight around.

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have to somewhat agree with Omar Z, if either the US of Japan tried to shoot down those Korean Rockets, it would expose what a boondoogle and a fraud these anti missile
systems are. These are no rigged tests where the antimissile knows the trajectory and the time of launch in advance, and if the North Korean missile employs any radar jamming technology, its hopeless to expect a hit.

As for hitting Peal Harbor, not a chance, the North Koreans want to show the missile can at least get beyond that little chain of Islands.

A boondoggle and Fraud?

Knows the trajectory? You mean... basic laws of physics and ballistic motion?

Radar Jamming? Ho boy.

I'm not going to take this off topic, but you don't anything about the subjects you're talking about.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Pulsar
Be very careful what you ask for.

They are using internation air to fire that missle. If you go down the route of shooting things down, what's to say that they or someone else wouldn't be completely justified in shoot down something WE send up, under some false pretense.

Unless we see that rocket on a trajectory to hit something, we'd be exactly what everyone claims we are by shooting it down - a bully throwing their weight around.

It wouldn't be bullying, though, if it's in conflict with a UN resolution to fire it. It may seem that way since probably the US is the only country that can or would take it out. I expect if it's fired the US will do nothing, as it has done nothing for the other launches. Likely a higher chance the missile turns into a big firework than an anti-missile approach working anyway.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: Rastus
That missile will be going much too fast by the time it get over Japan to be intercepted by anything known to man (except another ICBM). By an order of magnitude.wrong

Japan and the US are blowing smoke when they talk of intercepting it.dead wrong

The reentry vehicle is also going way to fast to intercept at the target by Patriots.

An ICBM class rocket must be destroyed within a few seconds of launch. That is what Reagan's Star Wars program was all about. you have not been following much about the latest anti missle tech have you?

the ignorance is strong in this thread

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Humm, the destroyer USS John McCain has intercepted an NK ship...

ETA: Should say may be intercepting

 

[Jaskalas]

Why are Democrats invested in protecting the North Korean missile, especially with regards to nay saying any means of stopping it? Then you gasp when we call treason.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Why are Democrats invested in protecting the North Korean missile, especially with regards to nay saying any means of stopping it? Then you gasp when we call treason.

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Jaskalas is using poor reasoning to set up a straw man.

Some of us democrats are just saying we can try to shoot the North Korean missiles down and will almost certainly fail in the attempt.

If anything, the people then embarrassed will be the idiots who have invested trillions in star war technology that will not work in the real world.

And with luck it will be the N. Koreans who fail because some set set of the missiles fired will be duds. Prior N. Korean launches have hardly had a very good track record of success.

 

[CU]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Rastus
That missile will be going much too fast by the time it get over Japan to be intercepted by anything known to man (except another ICBM). By an order of magnitude.

Japan and the US are blowing smoke when they talk of intercepting it.

The reentry vehicle is also going way to fast to intercept at the target by Patriots.

An ICBM class rocket must be destroyed within a few seconds of launch. That is what Reagan's Star Wars program was all about.

Two words: RAIL GUN

Better weapon Laser. Now when is that airplane with the laser suppose to be finished. I think we may need it soon.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Why are Democrats invested in protecting the North Korean missile, especially with regards to nay saying any means of stopping it? Then you gasp when we call treason.

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Jaskalas is using poor reasoning to set up a straw man.

Some of us democrats are just saying we can try to shoot the North Korean missiles down and will almost certainly fail in the attempt.

If anything, the people then embarrassed will be the idiots who have invested trillions in star war technology that will not work in the real world.

And with luck it will be the N. Koreans who fail because some set set of the missiles fired will be duds. Prior N. Korean launches have hardly had a very good track record of success.

1: The capabilities of this system are for the military to decide, you know, the guys who have actually tested and used the system. Not for keyboard commandos who believe they know it's a failure.

2: Wouldn't it be in your interests to prove the technology fails? Then its funding can go back to more precious welfare programs.

3: Whether the Koreans fail to launch or not is irrelevant. The missile defense should be armed and ready to counter a successful launch aimed at us.

Speaking of strawmen Techs, your "trillions" for its cost is an outright lie.

The fiscal 2010 budget will reduce the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) program by $1.2 billion, leaving a fiscal 2010 request of $7.8 billion for MDA:

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Rastus
That missile will be going much too fast by the time it get over Japan to be intercepted by anything known to man (except another ICBM). By an order of magnitude.

Japan and the US are blowing smoke when they talk of intercepting it.

The reentry vehicle is also going way to fast to intercept at the target by Patriots.

An ICBM class rocket must be destroyed within a few seconds of launch. That is what Reagan's Star Wars program was all about.

Two words: RAIL GUN

Better weapon Laser. Now when is that airplane with the laser suppose to be finished. I think we may need it soon.

I believe Obama cancelled or significantly scaled it back. Have to find a reference though.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: CU
Better weapon Laser. Now when is that airplane with the laser suppose to be finished. I think we may need it soon.

This guy?
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/

Once the missile is over international waters it is fair game. Once it enters US/South Korea/Japan air space WE could consider it an act of war.

No matter what happens North Korea will blame the USA for something. Just look at what happened in Iran, Obama didn't want to get involved so the Iranian government couldn't use the USA is "meddling" excuse. What did Mr. Supreme Leader do, blame the USA anyways.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: CU
Better weapon Laser. Now when is that airplane with the laser suppose to be finished. I think we may need it soon.

This guy?
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/

Once the missile is over international waters it is fair game. Once it enters US/South Korea/Japan air space WE could consider it an act of war.

No matter what happens North Korea will blame the USA for something. Just look at what happened in Iran, Obama didn't want to get involved so the Iranian government couldn't use the USA is "meddling" excuse. What did Mr. Supreme Leader do, blame the USA anyways.

Haven't they fired multiple missiles over Japan already?

Or was it just missiles shot in their general direction?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Rastus
That missile will be going much too fast by the time it get over Japan to be intercepted by anything known to man (except another ICBM). By an order of magnitude.

Japan and the US are blowing smoke when they talk of intercepting it.

The reentry vehicle is also going way to fast to intercept at the target by Patriots.

An ICBM class rocket must be destroyed within a few seconds of launch. That is what Reagan's Star Wars program was all about.

We have technology that can shoot down artillery in flight... I cant imagine this is much of a reach beyond that...

If we arent there technologically already, we are close.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Pulsar

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have to somewhat agree with Omar Z, if either the US of Japan tried to shoot down those Korean Rockets, it would expose what a boondoogle and a fraud these anti missile
systems are. These are no rigged tests where the antimissile knows the trajectory and the time of launch in advance, and if the North Korean missile employs any radar jamming technology, its hopeless to expect a hit.

As for hitting Peal Harbor, not a chance, the North Koreans want to show the missile can at least get beyond that little chain of Islands.

A boondoggle and Fraud?

Knows the trajectory? You mean... basic laws of physics and ballistic motion?

Radar Jamming? Ho boy.

I'm not going to take this off topic, but you don't anything about the subjects you're talking about.

usually lemon law is very wordy and usually says nothing....so there is your answer...lol

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: sunzt

What prevents Japan, US, South Korea from shooting it down?

Bad engineering.

This is the correct answer to the OPs question ..... even perfect conditions tests of the EKVs are failing. Some people in here shouldn't be discussing things they know absolutely nothing about.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: sunzt

What prevents Japan, US, South Korea from shooting it down?

Bad engineering.

Lack of balls.