If Longhorn runs on Power PC, what need for Intel?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

miniMUNCH

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2000
4,159
0
0
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
What idiotic speculation. Not even AMD has the fab capability to produce enough chips to replace Intel.
IBM certainly doesn't.

You would be wrong on that account. IBM has huge and relatively unused manufacturing capacity that they are losing money on precisely because it is going unused...that's why they've inked deals w/AMD and others to fill some vacant capacity. And who said anything about 'replace Intel'.

IBM wants to increase their profits just like every other publicly traded company; they want CPU revenue if it can be had. If the Power5 becomes a competitive architecture in computing, which some are saying it will play a very important role in the Linux market, MS may wish to offer windows on the power5 system.

That is a stretch but time will tell...MS and IBM may be planning a larger commodity hardware family than we presently expect.
 

AIWGuru

Banned
Nov 19, 2003
1,497
0
0
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
What idiotic speculation. Not even AMD has the fab capability to produce enough chips to replace Intel.
IBM certainly doesn't.

You would be wrong on that account. IBM has huge and relatively unused manufacturing capacity that they are losing money on precisely because it is going unused...that's why they've inked deals w/AMD and others to fill some vacant capacity. And who said anything about 'replace Intel'.

IBM wants to increase their profits just like every other publicly traded company; they want CPU revenue if it can be had. If the Power5 becomes a competitive architecture in computing, which some are saying it will play a very important role in the Linux market, MS may wish to offer windows on the power5 system.

That is a stretch but time will tell...MS and IBM may be planning a larger commodity hardware family than we presently expect.


If we're talking about powerpc replacing x86, that means IBM replacing Intel. IBM does not have a fraction of the production capacity of Intel. They may have some in reserve, but not that much. No one does.
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
17,484
33
86
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
What idiotic speculation. Not even AMD has the fab capability to produce enough chips to replace Intel.
IBM certainly doesn't.

You would be wrong on that account. IBM has huge and relatively unused manufacturing capacity that they are losing money on precisely because it is going unused...that's why they've inked deals w/AMD and others to fill some vacant capacity. And who said anything about 'replace Intel'.

IBM wants to increase their profits just like every other publicly traded company; they want CPU revenue if it can be had. If the Power5 becomes a competitive architecture in computing, which some are saying it will play a very important role in the Linux market, MS may wish to offer windows on the power5 system.

That is a stretch but time will tell...MS and IBM may be planning a larger commodity hardware family than we presently expect.


If we're talking about powerpc replacing x86, that means IBM replacing Intel. IBM does not have a fraction of the production capacity of Intel. They may have some in reserve, but not that much. No one does.
Yes, but look at AMD...they are petty much selling Opterons a they make them, abl to set any price for the 246 and up. Replacing something like Intel would no be an overnight venture, but a several-year process, even if you had better technology, as wide-spread venor support AND better marketing. IBM of all companies should be abe to build eough capacity if it became needed.
 

addragyn

Golden Member
Sep 21, 2000
1,198
0
0
CRN: Intel argues that the PC business gives them economies of scale that rivals can't match. IBM has signed deals with a number of gaming platform providers. How do those deals help pSeries customers?

Sanchez: Our answer to Intel is games. We get our economies of scale through the game business. Getting that business was a strategic decision to ensure the long-term feasibility of our systems road map. They have PCs. We get there through gaming platforms.
serverpipeline.com
 

MadRat

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
11,999
307
126
I also noticed that IBM is working on cell technology; banding together multiple cores on a single expansion card that share a common cluster of memory. Perhaps their "Cell" processors for future gaming machines will be multiple Power 970 chips, too.
 

addragyn

Golden Member
Sep 21, 2000
1,198
0
0
IBM has Nintendo already. So they've sold them 15 million chips for GameCube.

MS has announced an IBM CPU for XBox2.

IBM, Sony & Toshiba have been partners on "Cell" since '01.

- - -

IBM is having a press conference on the 31st (March). Curiously Apple also has many promotions ending the week prior and the iMac and eMac are both rumored to have just been EOL'ed. News from IBM and maybe from Apple.

IBM to charge up Power at chip event