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Train

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Jun 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: tallest1
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republicans were never meant to be anything but a drag on the ass of progress and a minority, opposition party. They were never meant and are incapable of leading. Essentially they're nothing but a bunch of retrograde loons who function most effectively as a voice for pique and miff of the mentally disturbed and are best represented on hate radio where they can cluster flisten and help the deer population recover. If given power they cannibalize each other and self destruct taking years of progress and debt recovery with them. Vote Democratic in November. It is absolutely vital for the ailing health of the nation.

The Democrats were never meant to be anything but a drag on the ass of values and a party for minorities. They are incapable of leading. Essentially they're nothing but a bunch of relativist loons who function most effectively as a voice for the uneducated and are best represented on television and newsprint where they can make up words like "flisten" and help the poor recover. If given power they cannibalize the nation and self destruct taking years of absolute morality and prosperity with them. Vote Republican in November. It is absolutely vital for the recovering health of the nation.


Your opinion isn't far off from the views of most rich white men in this country.

Well, that's a coincedence. Because I'm a 30-year-old college educated professional, and I rent an aprtment because I cannot afford to buy a home like my peers. Seeing how I live paycheck to paycheck, I don't think my political viewpoints are based on my financial status.
It must really bother you that a Blue Collar Union worker makes more money than you and can afford to buy a house. Also in a lot of trades they have as much education as you due to 4 year apprenticeship programs. I can assure you that a Union Carpenter, Elelctrician, Plumber, Pipefitter or Sheet Metal worker is as much a professional as you. You also won't see those jobs outsourced to India to be done for pennies on the dollar like you will a lot of "White Collar Professional" jobs.
well duh, you cant send construction jobs overseas, you have to bring the worker to the job site. But your manufacturing counterparts have thier jobs sent overseas, and thus there are less factories for you to build, then less money for all of us, and we all suffer. Damn, whatever political party it was that passed NAFTA and made China a preferred trade partner and even offered Corporations TAX BREAKS for sending jobs overseas, couldnt possibly be the same party that is backed by US Labor Unions, cuz that would make no sense whatsoever.
 

NeoV

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Train, you really think that more people in the middle east are really big fans of the US? You don't think that more people in that part of the world (which seems to produce most of the terrorists that are a threat to the US) hate us now than before we invaded Iraq? You think that is a "CNN" slant on the situation over there?

Please explain.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Amazing isnt it?

The problem is as we get closer to the big game Kerry is going to have to own up to something meaningful. Right now is talking about a horrible economy. Well it grew at 4.6% in 2003 and is on a better pace this year. The emplyment outlook is finally coming around with 1.2 million jobs created in the past 6 months. Iraq is a mess, but he really doesnt have much footing as he voted for the damn war before it happened.

I think as the race starts to get hot in August Kerry will have some explaining to do. Right now it is just low yiled bombs they are throwing at each other testing the waters.

If Kerry wins you can expect a big mess like Clinton but the press wont mention it. If somethign bad happens you can expect it to be quickly snubbed off as a problem from Bushs administration.

Amazing how 9-11 is being blamed soley on Bush in the media eventhough it is a by-product of Clintons inability to deal with the issue during the 90s.
 

LunarRay

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Mar 2, 2003
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Wow! Kerry is gonna have one heck of a time pruning the weeds that surround Clinton and probably some of the Laffer remnants of Reagan... He can do it, though.
 

Train

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Jun 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: NeoV
Train, you really think that more people in the middle east are really big fans of the US? You don't think that more people in that part of the world (which seems to produce most of the terrorists that are a threat to the US) hate us now than before we invaded Iraq? You think that is a "CNN" slant on the situation over there?

Please explain.
I dont think, I know, I was there.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jan 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: NeoV
Train, you really think that more people in the middle east are really big fans of the US? You don't think that more people in that part of the world (which seems to produce most of the terrorists that are a threat to the US) hate us now than before we invaded Iraq? You think that is a "CNN" slant on the situation over there?

Please explain.
I dont think, I know, I was there.

I don't think you know either.
 

IndieSnob

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Amazing isnt it?

The problem is as we get closer to the big game Kerry is going to have to own up to something meaningful. Right now is talking about a horrible economy. Well it grew at 4.6% in 2003 and is on a better pace this year. The emplyment outlook is finally coming around with 1.2 million jobs created in the past 6 months. Iraq is a mess, but he really doesnt have much footing as he voted for the damn war before it happened.

I think as the race starts to get hot in August Kerry will have some explaining to do. Right now it is just low yiled bombs they are throwing at each other testing the waters.

If Kerry wins you can expect a big mess like Clinton but the press wont mention it. If somethign bad happens you can expect it to be quickly snubbed off as a problem from Bushs administration.

Amazing how 9-11 is being blamed soley on Bush in the media eventhough it is a by-product of Clintons inability to deal with the issue during the 90s.

Right, and administrations before Clinton never helped make OBL the mess it is now either.

:roll:
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Originally posted by: Genx87
Amazing isnt it?

The problem is as we get closer to the big game Kerry is going to have to own up to something meaningful. Right now is talking about a horrible economy. Well it grew at 4.6% in 2003 and is on a better pace this year. The emplyment outlook is finally coming around with 1.2 million jobs created in the past 6 months. Iraq is a mess, but he really doesnt have much footing as he voted for the damn war before it happened.

I think as the race starts to get hot in August Kerry will have some explaining to do. Right now it is just low yiled bombs they are throwing at each other testing the waters.

If Kerry wins you can expect a big mess like Clinton but the press wont mention it. If somethign bad happens you can expect it to be quickly snubbed off as a problem from Bushs administration.

Amazing how 9-11 is being blamed soley on Bush in the media eventhough it is a by-product of Clintons inability to deal with the issue during the 90s.

Right, and administrations before Clinton never helped make OBL the mess it is now either.

:roll:

But while Clinton was there he did nothing in relative comparison to Bush.


:roll:
 

IndieSnob

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Originally posted by: Genx87
Amazing isnt it?

The problem is as we get closer to the big game Kerry is going to have to own up to something meaningful. Right now is talking about a horrible economy. Well it grew at 4.6% in 2003 and is on a better pace this year. The emplyment outlook is finally coming around with 1.2 million jobs created in the past 6 months. Iraq is a mess, but he really doesnt have much footing as he voted for the damn war before it happened.

I think as the race starts to get hot in August Kerry will have some explaining to do. Right now it is just low yiled bombs they are throwing at each other testing the waters.

If Kerry wins you can expect a big mess like Clinton but the press wont mention it. If somethign bad happens you can expect it to be quickly snubbed off as a problem from Bushs administration.

Amazing how 9-11 is being blamed soley on Bush in the media eventhough it is a by-product of Clintons inability to deal with the issue during the 90s.

Right, and administrations before Clinton never helped make OBL the mess it is now either.

:roll:

But while Clinton was there he did nothing in relative comparison to Bush.


:roll:

Yeah, and he sure has come far, hasn't he? ;)
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Originally posted by: Genx87
Amazing isnt it?

The problem is as we get closer to the big game Kerry is going to have to own up to something meaningful. Right now is talking about a horrible economy. Well it grew at 4.6% in 2003 and is on a better pace this year. The emplyment outlook is finally coming around with 1.2 million jobs created in the past 6 months. Iraq is a mess, but he really doesnt have much footing as he voted for the damn war before it happened.

I think as the race starts to get hot in August Kerry will have some explaining to do. Right now it is just low yiled bombs they are throwing at each other testing the waters.

If Kerry wins you can expect a big mess like Clinton but the press wont mention it. If somethign bad happens you can expect it to be quickly snubbed off as a problem from Bushs administration.

Amazing how 9-11 is being blamed soley on Bush in the media eventhough it is a by-product of Clintons inability to deal with the issue during the 90s.

Right, and administrations before Clinton never helped make OBL the mess it is now either.

:roll:

But while Clinton was there he did nothing in relative comparison to Bush.


:roll:

Yeah, and he sure has come far, hasn't he? ;)
Far enough, apparently, to hit the dress.
 

NeoV

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umm...train, would you care to elaborate on that .....I don't think, I know...I was there....
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Crimson
If Kerry wins the election this year.. is there ANYTHING he can do wrong over the next 4 years that WON'T be blamed on Bush?

Anything bad happens in Iraq.. It was Bush's fault for getting us into that mess.

Anything bad happens in the Economy.. It was Bush's irresponsible tax cuts.

Anything bad happens Internationally.. It was Bush's failed foreign policy.

Terrorists strike again.. It was Bush upsetting them by invading Iraq.

Anything bad that happens it will simply be placed on the Bush Administration... and ultimately, the dems will finish it with. 'Well, we had no choice to vote for Kerry, we had to get Bush out of office."

So as I see it, if Bush loses, it doesn't matter WHAT Kerry does.. He can simply blame it on Bush. And the Kerry supporters will justitfy it because they just HAD to get rid of Bush.. So they will not blame themselves for electing him, and they will not blame him because it will be Bush's fault.

And if Bush does win, it will be 4 more years of dems going insane trying to make him look bad. Either way America loses.

The Dems/Libs clearly put partisan politics above the welfare of the nation. Not much new to that. It's just a fact that you'll have to get used to.

:roll: Please, get off your high horse.

I think it's utterly HILARIOUS that you liberals bash and slander conservatives left and right about anything and everything, yet when someone accuses you people of the same stuff, you immediately resort to quick replies like that. For god's sake, get off YOUR high horse and look at yourself once.

I'm not a liberal.
 

J Heartless Slick

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Nov 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Crimson
If Kerry wins the election this year.. is there ANYTHING he can do wrong over the next 4 years that WON'T be blamed on Bush?

Anything bad happens in Iraq.. It was Bush's fault for getting us into that mess.

Anything bad happens in the Economy.. It was Bush's irresponsible tax cuts.

Anything bad happens Internationally.. It was Bush's failed foreign policy.

Terrorists strike again.. It was Bush upsetting them by invading Iraq.

Anything bad that happens it will simply be placed on the Bush Administration... and ultimately, the dems will finish it with. 'Well, we had no choice to vote for Kerry, we had to get Bush out of office."

So as I see it, if Bush loses, it doesn't matter WHAT Kerry does.. He can simply blame it on Bush. And the Kerry supporters will justitfy it because they just HAD to get rid of Bush.. So they will not blame themselves for electing him, and they will not blame him because it will be Bush's fault.

And if Bush does win, it will be 4 more years of dems going insane trying to make him look bad. Either way America loses.

Well, they are GWB's messes....