If I use both Firefox and Thunderbird...

puffpio

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II use Firefox for web browsing and Thunderbird for email. However..those are components that are taken out of Mozilla..so should I just use Mozilla? Is it more space/memory/speed efficient to keep them separate or together?
 

puffpio

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are there features of Firefox or Thunderbird which are not available in Mozilla?
 

igowerf

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Mozilla loads a lot slower. That's why it has that quicklaunch feature, where it preloads itself at startup and just sits in your system tray. Mozilla also comes with other stuff that you might not want or need like an HTML editor and IRC client.
 

Cheetah8799

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Future Mozilla development was supposed to stop while FireFox and Thunderbird carried on. That hasn't happened yet, but I switched to FF and Tb anyway.

ya, Mozilla has more tools, and you only need them if you are a bit more than the average web browser user. I like Mozilla for work stuff, it has some nice tools for managing cookies and such. Those same tools exist for Firefox, but are a couple layers deeper and harder to get at.

FF and Tb are more "user friendly" I guess you could say. When I setup friends/clients/whatever I do the FF/Tb route instead of Mozilla. Seems easier for them to figure it out.
 

Zelmo3

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If I remember right, I don't use Mozilla because it doesn't have the option to load new tabs in the background. For instance, if you CTRL-click on a link, it takes you to a new tab and opens the link there. In Firefox there's the option to stay on the page from whence you clicked the link, and let the new tab stay in the back until you click on it.
It's a piddly difference, but I like having that option.
 

QTPie

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Mozilla is stable, more tools but less customizable. You can download whole bunch of extensions for FF.
There're many features that you can't find in Mozilla. I can customize my FF the way I want it. I have File, Edit, Bookmark , Back, Forward, Refresh and Home buttons, Address bar, Google search box all in 1 row which save me lots of space. I can double-click to close a tab, refresh by clicking the mouse wheel. etc. You can keep multiple tabs restore when you open FF again.
 

n0cmonkey

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FF is horrible for me. Constant crashes, lack of attention, SLOW, memory and cpu hungry beast. Mozilla works great. But I hate the mail client. For some reason it never works right for me, so I use Mozilla and Thunderbird.
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: igowerf
Mozilla loads a lot slower. That's why it has that quicklaunch feature, where it preloads itself at startup and just sits in your system tray. Mozilla also comes with other stuff that you might not want or need like an HTML editor and IRC client.

No, they both load about the same speed without quicklaunch. Quicklaunch broke in Firebird, and they decided not to fix it, to encourage more efficient coding. It never broke in Mozilla, and therefore didn't need to be fixed.

Originally posted by: Zelmo3
If I remember right, I don't use Mozilla because it doesn't have the option to load new tabs in the background. For instance, if you CTRL-click on a link, it takes you to a new tab and opens the link there. In Firefox there's the option to stay on the page from whence you clicked the link, and let the new tab stay in the back until you click on it.
It's a piddly difference, but I like having that option.
Uh, it's always ahd that option. "Load links in the background". Works fine.

Originally posted by: QTPie
Mozilla is stable, more tools but less customizable. You can download whole bunch of extensions for FF.
The vast majority of extensions work on both.

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
FF is horrible for me. Constant crashes, lack of attention, SLOW, memory and cpu hungry beast. Mozilla works great. But I hate the mail client. For some reason it never works right for me, so I use Mozilla and Thunderbird.
I use Mozilla & Mozilla mail, because Firefox isn't any faster (they share the same backend), and I'd rather not waste the RAM that you lose because TB & FF don't share their libraries.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
I use Mozilla & Mozilla mail, because Firefox isn't any faster (they share the same backend), and I'd rather not waste the RAM that you lose because TB & FF don't share their libraries.

Half my ram is free using the two of them seperately. ;)
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: CTho9305
I use Mozilla & Mozilla mail, because Firefox isn't any faster (they share the same backend), and I'd rather not waste the RAM that you lose because TB & FF don't share their libraries.

Half my ram is free using the two of them seperately. ;)

You aren't using your computer properly then ;). Besides, if you go away for a long time while running, say, bittorrent, would you rather wait for one app to page back in from disk, or two? :D
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: CTho9305
I use Mozilla & Mozilla mail, because Firefox isn't any faster (they share the same backend), and I'd rather not waste the RAM that you lose because TB & FF don't share their libraries.

Half my ram is free using the two of them seperately. ;)

You aren't using your computer properly then ;). Besides, if you go away for a long time while running, say, bittorrent, would you rather wait for one app to page back in from disk, or two? :D

I just can't find enough bloatware! And I avoid bt most of the time. ;)