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shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
He will STFU up for a while and ease off the inspectors. The U.S. public is going to be in no mood after today to put up with his or anyone else's antics. If we see anyone dancing in the streets after this you better bet the general public will be all for lobbing bombs, cruise missiles, etc... in their direction. A sad America is not a very tolerant America.

He is not smart, otherwise he wouldn't be inviting a pissing contest with the most powerful military in the world. He is an idiot who if afraid to appear weak, even for a second.
 

EndGame

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: EndGame

I recently read Hagbard was full of BS and couldn't substanciate any of the BS he spreads. And no, I can't find where I read that!
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Um, sorry boys, but, if you are actually gullable enough to thing Dubya started that or the other policies in the articles, you are quite mistaken. It even states in several spots that development and programs started as far back as Bush1 and before, and were maintained and further developed by Clinton during his 8 years. The "new" technology is nothing "new". It is expansion on programs begun many years before and being adapted for use in the circumstances of today. Also, if you care to notice, several key Democrats are in favor of these programs.;)
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

Yes, we do have to use that stuff. The depleted uranium rounds are about the only thing that will penetrate modern tank armor. Would you prefer we throw rocks?
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

DU is barely radioactive and it was not use near population centers. Those 2 details are always left out.
And DU is the most effective means of killing another tank.
 

chiwawa626

Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

DU is barely radioactive and it was not use near population centers. Those 2 details are always left out.
And DU is the most effective means of killing another tank.

Either way why are we using those kind of weapons, isnt that hypocritical?
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

DU is barely radioactive and it was not use near population centers. Those 2 details are always left out.
And DU is the most effective means of killing another tank.

Either way why are we using those kind of weapons, isnt that hypocritical?
Because it's about the only way to kill a modern tank. Hypocritical? No, they have very little if any radiation emiting from them. Not in the same league as chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons.

 

Zebo

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The very thought of loosing or humiliation is hate to Americans-Patton
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
well mabey he really has his weapons, and he really wants a chance to use them on evil america, we are giving him just what he wants. If our intellegence says he has the weapons, whats gonna stop him from using them on our troops? Mabey war isnt a great idea.
That's why they're vaccinating the troops and giving them gas masks, antidotes, etc. Sure, they fully expect he will fight dirty. However, we plan to fight dirty too, IMO. Depleted uranium, as far as I'm concerned, is dirty war, and they use it for penetrating ballistics and for tank armor. That stuff is low level radioactive and the consequences are very nasty.

Eh....what does it matter? That stuff hits a tank and everyone inside is dead LONG before any trace amounts of radiation from the round would kill them.
OK, here's the article I read about it. See for yourself. It's an aftermath of the Gulf War where we used that stuff. The cancer rates for children have gone WAY up and it's the radioactive legacy we left them. We DON'T have to use that stuff. It's strategically advantageous (read the article) but it's deplorable. IMO, it's a dirty way to fight. It's also a bad precedent. We shouldn't be using nuclear (or radioactive) weapons OF ANY KIND.

DU is barely radioactive and it was not use near population centers. Those 2 details are always left out.
And DU is the most effective means of killing another tank.

Either way why are we using those kind of weapons, isnt that hypocritical?


We use them because they are highly effective. The drivers of tanks need not be worried about inhaling slightly radioactive heavy metals when a DU sabot hits their tank.
 

EndGame

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Dec 28, 2002
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  • Tuesday, 9 January, 2001, 13:05 GMT
    The military uses of DU

    Britain, France, Russia, Germany and the US are the main users DU munitions. 23 other countries also use DU munitions in some capacity

    These countries have argued that DU is the most effective material for piercing armour, because of its high density and the metallic properties that allow it to "self-sharpen" as it penetrates armour.

    In contrast, military officials say, anti-tank munitions made from other materials tend to mushroom and become blunt as they penetrate.

    The alternatives to DU do have a 35% lower penetrative performance, and are more expensive.

    Tungsten emits no radiation, but, its particles are very poisonous.

 

Mandrill

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Feb 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Comp625
Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: shinerburke
He will STFU up for a while and ease off the inspectors. The U.S. public is going to be in no mood after today to put up with his or any else's antics. If we see anyone dancing in the streets after this you better bet the general public will be all for lobbing bombs, cruise missiles, etc... in their direction. A sad America is not a very tolerant America.

Well said

I agree

yup.

I agree to agree.

I concur.
Ditto.

But think of the Children!!
 

kasparov

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Dec 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Mandrill
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Comp625
Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: shinerburke
He will STFU up for a while and ease off the inspectors. The U.S. public is going to be in no mood after today to put up with his or any else's antics. If we see anyone dancing in the streets after this you better bet the general public will be all for lobbing bombs, cruise missiles, etc... in their direction. A sad America is not a very tolerant America.

Well said

I agree

yup.

I agree to agree.

I concur.
Ditto.

Amen to dat.
 

Orsorum

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Dec 26, 2001
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Endgame - never stated explicitly that Bush ever started the programs. He is, however, supporting them and allowing them to continue.