If God does exist, why doesn't he show up in recent two centuries?

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linuxboy

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As for the CIA, obviously the CIA does not exist, otherwise the CIA would have stopped bin Laden.

erm, the only problem with that is the assumption behind the idea of God is one of omnipotence. Gets us back into theodicy... Nice attempt though :)


Cheers ! :)
 
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<< As for the CIA, obviously the CIA does not exist, otherwise the CIA would have stopped bin Laden. >>



The CIA is not all-knowing and all-powerful.

God supposedly is.

If an all-knowing and all-powerful entity (God) cannot stop Allah, that is a very good sign that he (God) does not exist.
 
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silveronsilver

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Here's a question for the religious folks.

Since the Muslim Allah is so powerful (enough to kill 6000 Americans and topple 3 buildings) and the Christian God is such a wimp (or does not even exist) will you now convert to Islam?

If not, why do you insist on believe in a wimpy God or nonexisting God?

How can a God be God if he cannot stop a few planes? Even Superman can stop planes!

I await answers.
 
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ToBeMe

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<< As for the CIA, obviously the CIA does not exist, otherwise the CIA would have stopped bin Laden. >>



The CIA is not all-knowing and all-powerful.

God supposedly is.

If an all-knowing and all-powerful entity (God) cannot stop Allah, that is a very good sign that he (God) does not exist. >>


Well........that one just flew right of a few heads!;) ....................Whatever.............I just can't see the point of trying to argue this.............I guarantee you this point has been covered a few hundred times and you'll be flamed away here or later if you actually believe that!;) You can't prove a thing.........and neither can the other side! The "God Fearing" will just say the Devil was on the terrorists side and that God had a "reason" behind allowing the attacks.....................YOU CAN'T WIN A ARGUEMENT ON THIS SUBJECT PEOPLE.............NEITHER SIDE CAN!!!!!!!
 
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Here's a question for the religious folks.

Since the Muslim Allah is so powerful (enough to kill 6000 Americans and topple 3 buildings) and the Christian God is such a wimp (or does not even exist) will you now convert to Islam?

If not, why do you insist on believe in a wimpy God or nonexisting God?

How can a God be God if he cannot stop a few planes? Even Superman can stop planes!

I await answers.
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allah just got his ass kicked in afganistan.
 
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<< Here's a question for the religious folks.

Since the Muslim Allah is so powerful (enough to kill 6000 Americans and topple 3 buildings) and the Christian God is such a wimp (or does not even exist) will you now convert to Islam?

If not, why do you insist on believe in a wimpy God or nonexisting God?

How can a God be God if he cannot stop a few planes? Even Superman can stop planes!

I await answers. >>


Sheesh........since I'm just doing this for fun........how about this.........if "Allah" is so huge for you.........and can make things happen over "God".............how is it he allowed the side which supposedly favors "God" go kick their butts and continue to do so?????????? As for binny babe...............binny is most likely dead also.........he was in constant need of medical assistance with dialysis and drugs not available under the circumstances and if the bombing didn't do him in, his health probably has so how do you figure "Allah" allowed all this to happen??????;) ROFLMAO!:)
 
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ToBeMe

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<< So you're saying that God had a point to make and he murdered 6000 innocent people in cold blood to make his point? >>


HMMM a few other occurances come to mind................WWII........Plagues.........Disease........all the millions killed needlessly year after year...........why would "Allah" or "God" allow any of those since it's worlwide???????;) Bad Allah.....Bad God.......;) LOL!:)
 
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silveronsilver

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<< allah just got his ass kicked in afganistan. >>



Nope. The US defeated the Taliban, but not Al-Queda.

All important Al-Queda members including Bin Laden have safely escaped and are planning their next attack.

The so-called "hostage negotiations" were stall tactics intended to give critical Al-Queda members time to escape. And the stupid US Forces fell for it hook, line & sinker.
 
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Yo Ma Ma

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<< Once you get a new world off on the right foot there's less need to micromanage it....? >>

;)
 
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silveronsilver

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<< HMMM a few other occurances come to mind................WWII........Plagues.........Disease........all the millions killed needlessly year after year...........why would "Allah" or "God" allow any of those since it's worlwide??????? >>



Yet more proof that God Does Not Exist.
 
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Nope. The US defeated the Taliban, but not Al-Queda.

All important Al-Queda members including Bin Laden have safely escaped and are planning their next attack.

The so-called "hostage negotiations" were stall tactics intended to give critical Al-Queda members time to escape. And the stupid US Forces fell for it hook, line & sinker.
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must be nice to have a separate reality all to yourself.
 
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ToBeMe

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<< allah just got his ass kicked in afganistan. >>



Nope. The US defeated the Taliban, but not Al-Queda.

All important Al-Queda members including Bin Laden have safely escaped and are planning their next attack.

The so-called "hostage negotiations" were stall tactics intended to give critical Al-Queda members time to escape. And the stupid US Forces fell for it hook, line & sinker. >>


OK.........prove this!;) Where's your proof that binny is still kicken' since mid Dec.???????? al Quaeda??????? Well, since they drug 27 of their highest officials carcasses out of various bombings and ground attacks........I'm kind of thinking they've done what they set out to do in the area they set out to do it in!;) Are there others???? Sure! Will they think twice the next time?????? Most likely.........even some of the captured al Quaeda members have said they never figured the U.S./Coalition would/could get them..........;)
 
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ToBeMe

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<< HMMM a few other occurances come to mind................WWII........Plagues.........Disease........all the millions killed needlessly year after year...........why would "Allah" or "God" allow any of those since it's worlwide??????? >>



Yet more proof that God Does Not Exist. >>


Nor "Allah" then by your standards!;) You really have no grasp of religion do you????? I'm not into it, but, anyone whom is would blow your stories off with their own.................and this is precisely my point!;) Your argument is no stronger and just as flawed as the other sides!;)
 
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I saw god yesterday. He was at the off-ramp, holding up a sign that says "Will perform miracles for food."

Some conservative was yelling at him to get a job.
 
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The more relevant question here is this: why, rc5, do you feel a need to post something like this HERE? Are you unsure of your religion? Are you attempting to test people for the sake of testing? Are you trying to prosletyze God-believing people into atheists? Or can you not just "live and let live"? Whatever your motive or reason, you and others really need to rethink posting this crap here.
 
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<< So you're saying that God had a point to make and he murdered 6000 innocent people in cold blood to make his point?

HMMM a few other occurances come to mind................WWII........Plagues.........Disease........all the millions killed needlessly year after year...........why would "Allah" or "God" allow any of those since it's worlwide??????? >>



I did not see God's finger ram into a building, I saw a plane ram into one though.

I did not see God round up the people of Europe and lead them to slaughter, I did hear that the Nazis did so.

I did not see God taking the life of an individual, I did see however that he was strangled in the night by a couple of thugs.

I did not see God let people starve as the famine rolled into the countryside, I did however, see the fruits of other lands prosper and flourish, only to be kept away from these people.

God is clearly not the problem in this world, humans are.
 
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Capn

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<< Here's a question for the religious folks.

Since the Muslim Allah is so powerful (enough to kill 6000 Americans and topple 3 buildings) and the Christian God is such a wimp (or does not even exist) will you now convert to Islam?

If not, why do you insist on believe in a wimpy God or nonexisting God?

How can a God be God if he cannot stop a few planes? Even Superman can stop planes!

I await answers. >>

Free-will ring a bell?

Seriously, if you expect these to be mind-boggling hypotheticals then you should take a sticker, write "I'm a simple fool" on it, and paste it across your forehead.

If you must flamebait at least try to do it without making yourself look like someone with the acumen of a three year old.
 
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<< well i see god everyday. he wakes me up (in my right mind), i'm healthy, he protects me, he guides me, etc...


i don't know what you guys are talking about! >>






amen.........
 
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ToBeMe

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<< Probably because... HE ISN'T REAL!? >>


Can you 100% undoubtedly prove that???????????;) ........................Didn't think so!;) It's a useless, meaningless albiet funny debate!:)
 
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<< well i see god everyday. he wakes me up (in my right mind), i'm healthy, he protects me, he guides me, etc...


i don't know what you guys are talking about! >>

How do they call this condition again?

Does this god of yours talk to you as well?
 
Platypus

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<< Probably because... HE ISN'T REAL!? >>


Can you 100% undoubtedly prove that???????????;) ........................Didn't think so!;) It's a useless, meaningless albiet funny debate!:) >>



Can you prove the tooth fairy and the easter bunny don't exist?

If "god" in all his merciful glory was real, the WTC attack wouldn't have happened. Or is that part of his "master plan" to let people die for no reason whatsoever? I am so tired of hearing excuses to try and patch up a time-tired lie.
 
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<< Probably because... HE ISN'T REAL!? >>


Can you 100% undoubtedly prove that???????????;) ........................Didn't think so!;) It's a useless, meaningless albiet funny debate!:) >>



Can you prove the tooth fairy and the easter bunny don't exist? >>


Oh........I don't know...........why don't you give it a whirl though while your working on proving the former??????;)
 
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