What?!? Hitler killed six million Jews. How can you kill 6 million people that have done nothing wrong and not be supremely evil?
there are so many americans with guns, not to mention police, FBI, secret service, militias, etc. does anyone really think germany could successfully invade the US (with or without some surrender)?
I surely do not think so. You would take one city and 10 others plus a huge country side would rise up.
I surely do not think so. You would take one city and 10 others plus a huge country side would rise up.
wasnt it 6 million jews AND 5 million gypsies (sp?), homosexuals, other different ethnicities? I could be talking outta my ass, i thought i just heard it somewhere.
But yeah, totally evil, I dont know what Britannica over there was thinking when he said that Hitler wasnt that evil.
You have very little knowledge of which you speak. They should have left just because Hitler told them to? Well, as a matter of fact, that's just what many of them did before all the sh!t hit the fan. But getting passports became increasingly difficult as entire families began applying for visas.
Then where were all these Jewish refugees to go? Many countries flat out refused ships with Jewish refugees aboard, not because they had anything against the Jews, but because their borders had already been overrun by Jews trying to flee Germany.
Even the United States suffered from the backlash of Hitler's commanding the Jews to leave Germany. Anti-semitism began to grow in the US as more and more American citizens got angry over jobs being "stolen" by Jewish refugees.
Saying that the Jewish population should have just left as if it were as easy as moving from New York to South Dakota is naive. And yes, Hitler was as evil as they made him out to be. This was not media propaganda. Go watch some of the actual footage taken by Allied soldiers liberating the cocentration camps and you'll see just how awful the Nazi regime was!
MustangSVT
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Germany would have all of Europe, the Middle East and most if not all of Africa. Japan would control the entire Pacific, China, Indochina, even India and parts of the Soviet Union. The US would have been isolated from the rest of the world after a defeat in WW2 (except maybe Canada) and protected by oceans for some time. Eventually, due to technological progress, the Germans and its allies would be able to launch an attack on the directly on US. By this time nuclear weapons would be in use, resulting in total annihilation... end of world.
i think it's family guy 2x06 Death Is a Bitch (not shure though. just realized ideleted 3 seasons some time ago)
*going to slap head against wall now*
I have this book called What If? and it examines possible changes in history. Even if England and Russia had fallen, eventually the US would've beaten back both Japan and Germany. We simply had more natural resources and better technology that would've won out. Not to mention nuclear weapons.
Japan never had any intention of occupying or even defeating the U.S. is all out war. They intended to hit Pearl harbor so hard that we would let them have SE Asia.
Chaotic42
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I don't think that you can take over countries like America, Canada, England, and Australia with conventional means. I mean, who in America is just going to say "Ok, I for one welcome our new Japanese masters."? I don't know about where you live, but here, every able person would have a gun, or whatever they could find, and would hunt the invaders down. You'd have to kill 85% of the population at least.
Either that, or convince them that they don't need freedoms and slowly take them away....
GagHalfrunt
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Old SNL:
"What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?"
"What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?"
"What if Superman had been a Nazi named Uberman?"
If Hitler didn't want to kill all the Jews and just wanted them to leave Europe, he would had done so. Just round them up and force them out, instead of round them up then kill 6 millions of them. Not just with the Jews, millions of Slavics were killed by the Nazi also. So if Germany won, all of Russia would become a huge wheat field to feed the Germans, and all of its inhabitants dead or enslaved.
1) Probable nuclear exchange between Japan, Germany and the US.
2) Japan in control of much of asia, possibly including Australia and India, definitely including US outposts west of Hawaii.
3) Germany in control of much of Europe, including western Russia, scandinavia, north africa and possibly the middle east.
4) Britain possibly conquered and treated especially poorly by Hitler.
5) Western Russia, at least, conquered.
6) US and Canada left as the two major nations to oppose on Japan and Germany. Casualties enormous on both sides, much of the world in tatters.
7) The Beatles used as propaganda ministers by Germany, much of the foundation for modern music not laid down by key groups.
8) (not sure if there's anything else)
2) Japan in control of much of asia, possibly including Australia and India, definitely including US outposts west of Hawaii.
3) Germany in control of much of Europe, including western Russia, scandinavia, north africa and possibly the middle east.
4) Britain possibly conquered and treated especially poorly by Hitler.
5) Western Russia, at least, conquered.
6) US and Canada left as the two major nations to oppose on Japan and Germany. Casualties enormous on both sides, much of the world in tatters.
7) The Beatles used as propaganda ministers by Germany, much of the foundation for modern music not laid down by key groups.
8) (not sure if there's anything else)
The Germans had some of the most brilliant aero-engies at the time. In fact, I believe it was Horton who came up with a working flying wing design which Northrop picked up on 35+ years later in the 1980s to design the B2 Spirit. IF the Germans' aero-engies didn't do so much damn infighting and had a little more time, their plan to bomb New York by a long distance bomber would have been a serious blow to America.
That being said, I don't think the German's would ever have had the man power necessary to secure all of Europe AND America. So...they would have probably had to bomb us into submission, but of course we would have just dropped the A-Bombs on them instead of the Japanese (which by the way, wasn't necessary at all)
That being said, I don't think the German's would ever have had the man power necessary to secure all of Europe AND America. So...they would have probably had to bomb us into submission, but of course we would have just dropped the A-Bombs on them instead of the Japanese (which by the way, wasn't necessary at all)
most of your pron collection will consist of participants excreting brown stuff... *yuck
what kind of answers do you expect when you ask a question like this anyway?
what kind of answers do you expect when you ask a question like this anyway?
Of course, you have the benefit of hindsight and still get it wrong. At the time, an invasion of Japan, which would absolutely have been necessary, was estimated to cost over 1 million lives. The bomb killed less than 200,000 total in both cities.
And ZERO Americans.
Which is perfectly fine with me.
It's always funny to me that people think the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were so terrible, when the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more people.
I guess since it took hundreds of planes and thousands of bombs, it's not as bad? The people are just as dead.
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