If Germany and Japan won WWII
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Well, Hitler was obviously evil...duh, but it's interesting to consider that after WWII, Japan got tons of aid from the US and then went on to become a really developed place that plays a large role in the world economy.
I wonder if it could be possible for either country to occupy the U.S., given the disparity in land size/population and of course the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean separating us from them.
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didnt philip k. dick write a book about that?
i think it was the man in the high castle...but i tend to get all his books (and other, similiar writers) confused.
on a slightly similiar topic, i just finished reading The Boys From Brazil...did that concept really cause as much suspense as the blurbs claim it should?
i think it was the man in the high castle...but i tend to get all his books (and other, similiar writers) confused.
on a slightly similiar topic, i just finished reading The Boys From Brazil...did that concept really cause as much suspense as the blurbs claim it should?
it would be a stalemate. anyway, even if the Axis won, we'd still would have the bomb (we already had the research and manpower from the manhattan project). it would be divided up into sphere's on influence, north america + any south/central american opposed to Axis occupation vs. Axis powers in europe, asia, and africa. US would have to drop alot of a-bombs :Q
yup, if German won, eventually the world would be white with blondes. :Q
If Germany had won WWII, that would leave Europe speaking German, but not us.
A victory for Japan would have involved the US signing a peace treaty soon after Pearl Harbor. The Japanese had no intention of conquering the US, just crippling us enough so we couldn't interfere in their conquest plans in Southeast Asia.
So, Germany owns Europe, and Japan owns the Pacific, pretty much. But well before Pearl Harbor, the US was already building up the military. All the ships that were sunk at Pearl were already scheduled to be replaced. In fact, several of the newer battleships (USS North Carolina, USS Washington, South Dakota, and more) were already in the water and working up to ready status at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack. So were some new carriers.
So, if we had made peace with Japan, it would have only prolonged the eventual conflict with them in the South Pacific, which, we would have won anyway.
Germany could never, every have mounted an invasion of the United States. Their navy was pitiful compared to ours, even after the attack on Pearl. And neither Germany nor Japan could match the industrial might of the US, so trying to build up a navy to challenge ours wouldn't have worked, either.
I guess that we would have probably never have gone to war with Germany in this scenario, and our conquest of Japan would have been delayed, but likely would have still happened.
A victory for Japan would have involved the US signing a peace treaty soon after Pearl Harbor. The Japanese had no intention of conquering the US, just crippling us enough so we couldn't interfere in their conquest plans in Southeast Asia.
So, Germany owns Europe, and Japan owns the Pacific, pretty much. But well before Pearl Harbor, the US was already building up the military. All the ships that were sunk at Pearl were already scheduled to be replaced. In fact, several of the newer battleships (USS North Carolina, USS Washington, South Dakota, and more) were already in the water and working up to ready status at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack. So were some new carriers.
So, if we had made peace with Japan, it would have only prolonged the eventual conflict with them in the South Pacific, which, we would have won anyway.
Germany could never, every have mounted an invasion of the United States. Their navy was pitiful compared to ours, even after the attack on Pearl. And neither Germany nor Japan could match the industrial might of the US, so trying to build up a navy to challenge ours wouldn't have worked, either.
I guess that we would have probably never have gone to war with Germany in this scenario, and our conquest of Japan would have been delayed, but likely would have still happened.
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hitler would have held out MUCH longer if he had not violated his non aggression pact with soviet russia. He could have conquered Britian given time. after britians fall, he could have easily walked into INdia and serveral other british protectoretes, that sought to be taken away from britian. He could then trick the british protectorates, IE India, into being his allies to finish the job. there are alot of indians and with them he could have then attacked soviet russia. but Germany kicked ass for a while, but then got overwhelmed by sheer numbers. If hitler was not so insane and not tried to kill jews and stuff and made them his allies he could have gotten farther, but he might never have gotten into power if not for his blaming the problems on another race policiies.
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Completely ridiculous question.
What if the dinosaurs did not become extinct?
What if the Roman Empire didn't collapse?
What if the world was flat?
What if the dinosaurs did not become extinct?
What if the Roman Empire didn't collapse?
What if the world was flat?
1) It would be like Jurassic Park, and they would only exist on an Island off South America for our amazement, and it will be utter chaos and great entertainment when they are let out.
2) I dunno, but Gladiator was an awesome movie
3) Globes would be useless
What would be so bad about Europe being one large Germany?
I mean, killing the Jews was f*cked up, don't get me wrong, but he told them to leave and they should have left.
I don't think Hitler was as evil as all this propaganda makes him out to be. Power hungry, yes, but supremely evil? No.
The world would probably be very much the same as it is now, just different group of people ruling over us. Everyone would probably be socialist instead of capitalist.
And on the whole freedom of speech issue, as much as you like to think you have freedom of speech, you don't.
I mean, killing the Jews was f*cked up, don't get me wrong, but he told them to leave and they should have left.
I don't think Hitler was as evil as all this propaganda makes him out to be. Power hungry, yes, but supremely evil? No.
The world would probably be very much the same as it is now, just different group of people ruling over us. Everyone would probably be socialist instead of capitalist.
And on the whole freedom of speech issue, as much as you like to think you have freedom of speech, you don't.
1 - my pet would be a t-rex i'd call BigBird
2 - i'd be a senator and my name would be maximus m2kewlius
3 - columbus would be fvcked
Another thing to consider is that originally, Hitler didn't want to conquer England, he wanted to make peace with them. So if Germany "won" in Europe, you might also have to consider that England may have survived intact, which would be an even further deterrent to Germany trying to cross the Atlantic and take the US on.
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