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If evolution is true, how come humans are the only intelligent beings?

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Well Lifer, you are picking a characteristic of a species and then asking, "Why aren't they (other creatures) like us?" Why do they need to be? Why does an ant have to be anything other than an ant? An elephant be anything other than it is? There is no reason. All creatures live and breed to create the next generation. That is all that is required. That we are intelligent means no more than an elephant is the largest land animal, or the bee makes hives and honey. Why do people not produce honey? We do not need to. They do not need to be "smart"
 
Bah! you all are fools.

We didn?t "evolve" we were put here by god! GOD!

All the "proof" you have is fake! Set here by the Bush administration! How do they do that? They have a time machine that let them do it.

How could we evolve from apes? Do you see how hairy they are? We don?t have that hair. Well some do but not everyone.

Anyway the Good book says that god put Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. They were the first humans!

Pfft apes? pfft

😀
 
hmm good question.

i also wonder if there has been any scientific proof of anything evolving?

hmm i guess mutating = evolving? if it suits its envirnoment better?

 
YART (yet another retard thread)-

good lord. how long will it take for people to stop presenting these absolutely asinine proofs? How come we're not hairy like apes? How come I didn't see my fish evolve into a four legged animal last week? STFU. It's not even worth pointing out the plethora of fallacies in this thread.

could we maybe stop these posts entirely, mmm k? yeah that'd be greeet.
 
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Those who keep questioning our superior intellect when compared to any animal really need to get a clue. It's not just our ability to reason,
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but our ability to be compassionate (not just maternal love)
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Any dog owners want to take this one?

to reason and solve complicated problems using various methods that we invent even when no one teaches us (ie the process of elimination, simplifying complex problems by separating its parts, etc)
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My sister's hampster was pretty good at this, we nicknamed him houdini because of his ability to open any cage.

and the advanced use of communcation.
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Apes can become fluent in sign language. They just don't have the voicebox for human speech.

I argue, that we are significantly more intelligent such that our minds will have to deal with emotional issues such as selfishness, guilt, greed, etc;
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You mean like a cat?


 
It's the Quest for Fire thread
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Thread title should read "Why are humans the only arrogant beings?" 😉
 
I dont have the time/patience to read through this thread, but just want to let everyone know that I dont believe with such thing called evolution.
 
OK, after 3 pages I don't know who'll read this, but my observation is that perhaps man has this place simply because that's its natural place in the greater order of things...

Or, as Lovelace and others would have said it... the Gaia theory, that the entire planet and its ecology are somehow a single organism, and humans play the part of the sperma 🙂
 
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Evolution has kinda slowed down for us humans ever since we changed from hunter/gatherers to an agricultural society.. Doesn't mean evolution has totally stopped.. I mean, I'm a lot stronger and taller than even my grand father.. I'm too tired to explain that..
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You being taller than stronger than your grandfather doesn't have anything to do with evolution....
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More due to better nutrition and information.

You knew what and how to train. You also know what foods that help.

 
Now, for all we know our standard of intelligence is subpar. I personally think that elephants and whales are at least as smart as we are. They both have long-distance communication, advanced societies, and can solve problems in their environment. I think we need to pull something up like David Brin's Uplift Trilogies and make them more like us.

And on a second not I want an elephino. Yes, the old joke about crossing an elephant and a rhino... but think about it... has a trunk... with a spike on the end of the trunk... weighs a sh!tload... has armor... and you can ride it!
 
Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Those who keep questioning our superior intellect when compared to any animal really need to get a clue. It's not just our ability to reason,
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but our ability to be compassionate (not just maternal love)
Click to expand...
Any dog owners want to take this one?

to reason and solve complicated problems using various methods that we invent even when no one teaches us (ie the process of elimination, simplifying complex problems by separating its parts, etc)
Click to expand...
My sister's hampster was pretty good at this, we nicknamed him houdini because of his ability to open any cage.

and the advanced use of communcation.
Click to expand...
Apes can become fluent in sign language. They just don't have the voicebox for human speech.

I argue, that we are significantly more intelligent such that our minds will have to deal with emotional issues such as selfishness, guilt, greed, etc;
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You mean like a cat?
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Compassion is charity. Any dogs you know willing to give up their food to some stray?

I believe you are capable of construction a cage the hamster cannot get out of. Please explain how this disproves whatever point you are trying to make about it. If you cannot construct said cage, then you are dumber than the hamster, which in your mind only, may not be that bad.

Can apes use sign language to explain what the ape social system involves, and how it is beneficial to the survival of ape-hood? Because humans certainly can, and it is certainly possible within the confines of any human language.

Cats are programed to strive for their own survival (and that of the species) and immediate pleasure. If you believe they can do anything else, you'll need to prove it.

Please do so, otherwise you're just spewing out your ass.

I have but a single observation I needed to bring up, which I had even bolded for you. I see you made no attempt to disprove that one.
 
you need to learn what evolution really is.

it is basically just organisms increasing their genetic fitness so that they can continue to grow as a species. being super intelligent on the level of humans is not necessary for them to maintain their fitness. that's why they evolve along their own lines.
 
David Brin's Uplift Trilogies
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Those books are fantastic! I still want to know wether we did have a missing patron or not!?! or if we really did pull ourselves' up by the proverbial bootstrap?!? The idea of 'Fins being incredible space navigators because of their brain's adaptation to an underwater enviroment is a fascinating concept.
 
Yup sure were fantastic. I liked the whole 'missing patron' thread of the plot... kind of like the whole missing link type of thing everyone was looking for in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
 
Yup sure were fantastic. I liked the whole 'missing patron' thread of the plot... kind of like the whole missing link type of thing everyone was looking for in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
 
It really depends on what values you are assigning to intelligence....there are some amazing things animals do that no human can.

Humans have created more from their need to kill or advance over their fellow man.

Most innovation came from past wars and battles....whether it be computers, medicine to keep soldiers alive, etc.

Man's greed drives their advancement.
 
As both a scientist (about 7 years of college level zoology/biology and bio/chemisty) and someone who studies religion in my spare time (not as in memorizing verses, but in studying different types of religions) I wanted to make some points.

1) Religion does not prove there is a God(s)...Religion and a Creator(s) are mutually exclusive events...also there may not be a Creator(s) and/or there may not be any correct religion.
1a) Religion is easy to attack because there is not one single religion out there that 1) follows their 'book' 100% and 2) has not been modified/created to control people.

2) The majority of Evolution study never really stated everything came from 1 single cell and spawned every possible creation in the world/universe...even in the earliest days scientists thought that many ancient 'species' (for lack of a better word) either just happened to be or were created by some sort of God(s). [Yes many scientists believe evolution exists and creation also]
2a) Creationists can attack evolution easily by discrediting things like a daisy or an ant became man....however in many species if you study their embryology you will see stages very much like lower level species below them. Also they like to throw out things like saying 'scientists think we are only 1% different than monkeys'...the uneducated buy into this as if the scientists are confused and think a 'monkey' is almost human....

I believe there is a God, I also believe he/she/it would create a creature(s) that could change and adapt to their surroundings and get better with time...I have no idea what people's fear of evolution is as there is nothing in any religion to really say it does not exist and there are many other scientific things easily proven that are never mentioned or thought of back then. I can understand anyone's doubt of a God(s) since while science usually points in the same directions, religions point in all different, disjunctioned directions...plus the fact that you are dealing with an entity that cannot be sensed with any of the 5 senses nor instrumentation we have.

Things like cloning do not discredit a God either...since you are playing with DNA which was 'created' already....

I also do not understand how almost all religions think there is no possibility of life outside our planet....there are tons of creatures never mentioned in the bible/koran/et al on our own planet yet alone considering even 1/1000 of all the other planets in the universe.

Now if a scientist could create the 4 DNA building blocks and then create a double helix or another structure that grew and became a living organism....I may think slightly different about my beliefs esp if that new living organism was a totally new species.

So far I have not seen any evidence to 100% discredit a Creator (again religion has nothing to do with it) or Evolution at the same time nothing 100% credits either either. 🙂
 
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