If everyone obeyed "don't drink before you drive" how would it affect alcohol sales?

[ch33zw1z]

The law at this point sees context. .08 or under is not legally intoxicated, if you are a CDL holder, I believe it's .04....which takes context to the next level

 

[Carson Dyle]

The law at this point sees context. .08 or under is not legally intoxicated

Most states have at least two levels. Where I am, the 0.08% level is called DUI ("under the influence"), and 0.05% is called DWAI ("while ability impaired"). Terminology varies quite a bit, but 0.05% for a typical 180 pound person is achieved by walking past a bar with patrons drinking on the patio.

 

[BoomerD]

The law at this point sees context. .08 or under is not legally intoxicated, if you are a CDL holder, I believe it's .04....which takes context to the next level

I maintained a Class A CDL for over 30 years. The .04 restriction was only applicable when driving a vehicle that required a CDL... .08 applied in my personal vehicle.

 

[Carson Dyle]

And then there's something like 0.02% for drivers under 21. It's all totally arbitrary. Numbers plucked from someone's ass.

 

[Ichinisan]

I feel there should be two separate penalties for DUI.

1: Going over the limit, but still driving ok. That should be like a speeding ticket. And have the cop follow you home to make sure you're not going anywhere else.

2: Being actual real drunk and being all over the road. This should be a loss of license and a huge fine, maybe even jail time depending how bad it is.

Same for using cell phone. Using a cellphone at a stop light should not be the same penalty as someone using it while driving and actually being a danger. The problem with the law system is that there's no common sense used it's just black or white.

Do you really know anyone that got in trouble for using a phone at a stop light?

 

[cbrunny]

Do you really know anyone that got in trouble for using a phone at a stop light?

In Ontario it's a stiff penalty, even at a stop light.

Drivers with A to G licences
If you have an A, B, C, D, E, F and/or G licence, you’ll face bigger penalties when convicted of distracted driving:

• a fine of $490, if settled out of court (includes a victim surcharge and the court fee)
• a fine of up to $1,000 if a summons is received or if you fight the ticket in court and lose
• three demerit points

Novice drivers
If you hold a G1, G2, M1 or M2 licence, and are convicted of distracted driving, you’ll face the same fines as drivers with A to G licences. But you won’t receive any demerit points.

Instead of demerit points you’ll face:

• a 30-day licence suspension for a first conviction
• a 90-day licence suspension for a second conviction
• cancellation of your licence and removal from the Graduated Licensing System (GLS) for a third conviction
  • to get your licence back you’d have to redo the GLS program

• • source: https://www.ontario.ca/page/distracted-driving
    
    Don't know anyone personally that has been penalized but the stiff penalty goes a long way to discourage usage.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I was ticketed in CT for using a handheld device, I was at a stop light talking on the phone. Gotta be hands free

In MA, it's still OK to talk, not text, on the phone, >21yo

 

[who?]

The legal limit used to be 0.10% but apparently cops thought some people seemed impaired but their BAC was between 0.08% and 0.10% so they got the law changed so the 0.08% limit is based on real world observations.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It would pretty much kill the bar business.