if draft happens will you go

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I guess it depends on the war, though. I'd server if it meant defending my country, but none of the wars that we're currently involved in have much to do with national defense.

Afghanistan made sense, going after the home base of the people who did attack us on American soil.

Of course after that our Commander-in-chief either lied to the country or demonstrated complete incompetence and sent troops off to die for Haliburton and daddy while ignoring Bin Laden, Iraq and North Korea and also ignoring the intelligence he disagreed with warning of insurgency after "mission accomplished."

Sadly, I might even vote for him as the lesser evil.

 

[habib89]

does it have to be the army? i'd probably join the airforce before they drafted me if they ever put one into effect.. it's my duty.. and honor..

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Depends what the cause was

If it was to go to Iraq hell no...

If it was another world war 2 yeah...if someone attacked us on our soil I'd definitely be out there

I'm not going to get drafted to go fight for some cause I'm not about just because it's my duty as a citizen...screw that

Tell me...why would you go if it was WWII

Uh, its it in his post...

"if someone attacked us on our soil"...

So if he was sent to Germany? Also if there was a draft who is to say he wouldn't be sifting through Agfhganistan or Pakistan searching for the people responsible for killing more people than died in Pearl Harbor. Don't kid yourself PH was was an excuse to join the 2nd world war just as the sinking of the Lusitania was to join the first.

They were allies, self proclaimed allies at that. Who is kidding who? I was simply stating that the answer to your question was in his reply...before you even asked the question. I know PH was an excuse to enter the war...and it worked. It allowed the American puplic to get behind it. Im not saying the war in Iraq is right/wrong, but if you think it is linked to our "war" on terror in any major way...you are sadly mistaken. If our troops were only in Agfhganistan and Pakistan...the thought of bringing back the draft would have never surfaced.

Actually if you think Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror you are sadly mistaken. Not because it is a terrorist state mind you. Also the question was if there was a draft enacted would you go. The poster we were replying to assumed he would be going to I raq which is unlikely to be the case.

Edit: We were "allies" but didn't help until we were attacked?

 

[HappyPuppy]

Gawd, this thread makes me LOL! Get it, LOL? A gaggle of fatass wargame playing pseudo geeks proclaiming under what conditions they would subject themselves to a MANDATORY military draft.

Get real, most of you wouldn't have to worry about being drafted. The military doesn't have the resources to transport your grossly fat asses and has even less desire to deplete their reserve funds in order to stuff copious amounts of edibles into your grease smeared faceholes. The last time I checked, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines don't offer bulk Tweenkies as the main course at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

The truth is I wouldn't want you niggling, self centered pieces of horsecrap representing me, my family or friends in the world community. Our country will be better served if you maintain your status quo jacking to cartoons and subsisting on greasy food in your 8x8 cubicles.

I love you more for your honesty. At least we don't have to wonder who our enemies are.

 

[imported_Mike]

Actually if you think Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror you are sadly mistaken. Not because it is a terrorist state mind you.

Then why? My opinions are not set in stone...do you have any links? Please forgive me, but just becuase you say Iraq has a major role in our "war" on terror...doesn't mean Ill believe it right away.

Edit: We were "allies" but didn't help until we were attacked?

not sure what this pertains to? :confused

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Gawd, this thread makes me LOL! Get it, LOL? A gaggle of fatass wargame playing pseudo geeks proclaiming under what conditions they would subject themselves to a MANDATORY military draft.

Get real, most of you wouldn't have to worry about being drafted. The military doesn't have the resources to transport your grossly fat asses and has even less desire to deplete their reserve funds in order to stuff copious amounts of edibles into your grease smeared faceholes. The last time I checked, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines don't offer bulk Tweenkies as the main course at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

The truth is I wouldn't want you niggling, self centered pieces of horsecrap representing me, my family or friends in the world community. Our country will be better served if you maintain your status quo jacking to cartoons and subsisting on greasy food in your 8x8 cubicles.

I love you more for your honesty. At least we don't have to wonder who our enemies are.

Don't worry HappyPuppy if things are the same as they once were they will repeat boot camp until they are no longer fat asses and have gained respect for what a draft means. Once in combat there is very little time for personal opinion of what war is justified.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Of course. :roll: It's a small price to pay to put my life on the line (or lose it) so that others can keep their freedom.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Gawd, this thread makes me LOL! Get it, LOL? A gaggle of fatass wargame playing pseudo geeks proclaiming under what conditions they would subject themselves to a MANDATORY military draft.

Get real, most of you wouldn't have to worry about being drafted. The military doesn't have the resources to transport your grossly fat asses and has even less desire to deplete their reserve funds in order to stuff copious amounts of edibles into your grease smeared faceholes. The last time I checked, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines don't offer bulk Tweenkies as the main course at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

The truth is I wouldn't want you niggling, self centered pieces of horsecrap representing me, my family or friends in the world community. Our country will be better served if you maintain your status quo jacking to cartoons and subsisting on greasy food in your 8x8 cubicles.

I love you more for your honesty. At least we don't have to wonder who our enemies are.

Bitter are we? They're simply replying to the poll, if drafted would you go or dodge. By choosing which war to fight in they're saying they would dodge and flee the U.S. or go to jail....their answers are not understandable b/c?...

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: fredtam
Actually if you think Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror you are sadly mistaken. Not because it is a terrorist state mind you. Also the question was if there was a draft enacted would you go. The poster we were replying to assumed he would be going to I raq which is unlikely to be the case.

Edit: We were "allies" but didn't help until we were attacked?

We've created thousands of new recruits for terrorist organizations in Iraq and the middle east by the Bush administration's incompetence in planning for the aftermath of "mission accomplished," while destroying a dictatorship that offered little or no assistance to terrorists.

Look up "lend-lease" to see that we were indeed helping our allies in WW II before taking up arms ourselves.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Actually if you think Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror you are sadly mistaken. Not because it is a terrorist state mind you.

Then why? My opinions are not set in stone...do you have any links? Please forgive me, but just becuase you say Iraq has a major role in our "war" on terror...doesn't mean Ill believe it right away.

Edit: We were "allies" but didn't help until we were attacked?

not sure what this pertains to? :confused

I will not bother to explain the grand scheme of things. As to your confusion take a look at when both WWI & WWII started and then our entry into those wars.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Gawd, this thread makes me LOL! Get it, LOL? A gaggle of fatass wargame playing pseudo geeks proclaiming under what conditions they would subject themselves to a MANDATORY military draft.

Get real, most of you wouldn't have to worry about being drafted. The military doesn't have the resources to transport your grossly fat asses and has even less desire to deplete their reserve funds in order to stuff copious amounts of edibles into your grease smeared faceholes. The last time I checked, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines don't offer bulk Tweenkies as the main course at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

The truth is I wouldn't want you niggling, self centered pieces of horsecrap representing me, my family or friends in the world community. Our country will be better served if you maintain your status quo jacking to cartoons and subsisting on greasy food in your 8x8 cubicles.

I love you more for your honesty. At least we don't have to wonder who our enemies are.

your describing blowhards like rush limbaugh, who ducked service by citing an ass pimple. congenital condition that did not prevent his father from fighting ww2

more chickenhawk fun http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-b...NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks

put it this way, it doesn't matter if your grease smeared pie hole is too fat to get drafted. if you support bush and his policies you are obligated to get yourself into the condition that will allow yourself to be drafted at the very least. better yet you should vollunteer after getting yourself into shape.


bah.. anyways this president has NO moral authority to force people to serve considering how him and his elitist squad of gung ho hacks behaved when their time came.

and moralist repubs were so worried about clintons sexual behavior how will our children see this they asked? what example does this set for them? they asked. and now they stick their heads in the sand and support this scum puppy. character my ass.

 

[Mill]

Sure why not? What's the point of living if I'm scared of dying all the time?

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: fredtam
Actually if you think Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror you are sadly mistaken. Not because it is a terrorist state mind you. Also the question was if there was a draft enacted would you go. The poster we were replying to assumed he would be going to I raq which is unlikely to be the case.

Edit: We were "allies" but didn't help until we were attacked?

We've created thousands of new recruits for terrorist organizations in Iraq and the middle east by the Bush administration's incompetence in planning for the aftermath of "mission accomplished," while destroying a dictatorship that offered little or no assistance to terrorists.

Look up "lend-lease" to see that we were indeed helping our allies in WW II before taking up arms ourselves.

Oh my god don't do anything that may create more terrorist. :roll: When was the last time you were in the middle east? Mine was '95 and trust me there was no shortage of people who hated America. By your logic Klixxer should be planning an attack on us right now. :roll:

 

[imported_Mike]

I will not bother to explain the grand scheme of things.

lol, mmmkay?

As to your confusion take a look at when both WWI & WWII started and then our entry into those wars.

I am certainly no history buff, but IIRC we were sending aid(monetary & military supplies) before our "official" entry. Top officials did not want to enter the war as the public was not in favor of it, until PH (which you mentioned earlier & I agreed) was their great excuse to enter the war. (WWII)

 

[Hyperblaze]

I'm not part of America...

But if war ever happened around here....

I'd find someway to help out.

I rather not be in a situation where I have to shoot people though.

 

[HappyPuppy]

I have a headsup for you. The vast majority who say they would not go or wouldnl't go unless they agreed with the conflict would, in fact, go. My statement is supported by historical fact.

In the context of Iraq, DaveSimmons is bringing up some facts which are irrelevant because the situation already exists.

If we pull out of the ME what will fill the vacuum? Will it be detrimental to us or the future generations of the relatively few free countries in the world? I guess you all have to decide on your own.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I have a headsup for you. The vast majority who say they would not go or wouldnl't go unless they agreed with the conflict would, in fact, go. My statement is supported by historical fact.

Although I agree that most people who say they wouldn't go, probably would go. Especially looking at the alternatives...

I'm not sure, but I think any facts on that exact matter are probably pretty irrelevant as times have changed drastically. There is less "pride" in being an american sweeping the younger generation...along with that comes less patriotism. IMO

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I have a headsup for you. The vast majority who say they would not go or wouldnl't go unless they agreed with the conflict would, in fact, go. My statement is supported by historical fact.

In the context of Iraq, DaveSimmons is bringing up some facts which are irrelevant because the situation already exists.

If we pull out of the ME what will fill the vacuum? Will it be detrimental to us or the future generations of the relatively few free countries in the world? I guess you all have to decide on your own.

I just have this issue with killing folks....

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I have a headsup for you. The vast majority who say they would not go or wouldnl't go unless they agreed with the conflict would, in fact, go. My statement is supported by historical fact.

Although I agree that most people who say they wouldn't go, probably would go. Especially looking at the alternatives...

I'm not sure, but I think any facts on that exact matter are probably pretty irrelevant as times have changed drastically. There is less "pride" in being an american sweeping the younger generation...along with that comes less patriotism. IMO

You have said it all.

 

[Eli]

Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Too bad for you it doesn't work like that.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Seriously when have we ever faced a serious overseas threat?

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I have a headsup for you. The vast majority who say they would not go or wouldnl't go unless they agreed with the conflict would, in fact, go. My statement is supported by historical fact.

Although I agree that most people who say they wouldn't go, probably would go. Especially looking at the alternatives...

I'm not sure, but I think any facts on that exact matter are probably pretty irrelevant as times have changed drastically. There is less "pride" in being an american sweeping the younger generation...along with that comes less patriotism. IMO

You have said it all.

Are you trying to tell me to shut up?? :|

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Seriously when have we ever faced a serious overseas threat?

Our country is young.. PH is the only one that I know of.

I don't like the politics, but I would defend my land and family to the death.

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Too bad for you it doesn't work like that.

Well, that's just too bad then. They can kiss my cold dead ass if they think they can drag me off to fight(against my will). The whole idea goes against the ideals that this country was founded on, IMO.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Seriously when have we ever faced a serious overseas threat?

Our country is young.. PH is the only one that I know of.

I don't like the politics, but I would defend my land and family to the death.

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: Eli
Now, for the record.. I will say that if our country was faced with a genuine threat, I would happily join the national guard... be it via the military, or otherwise....

Too bad for you it doesn't work like that.

Well, that's just too bad then. They can kiss my cold dead ass if they think they can drag me off to fight(against my will). The whole idea goes against the ideals that this country was founded on, IMO.

What the fvck is it you think this country was founded on. Do you not think there were people against the revolutionary war? If nothing else I figured you people would pay attention to South Park. Did they draft? No not really. They didn't have the authority. If they did they would have. Next time I'm bowing to the Queen I'll send your regards....oh wait.......