If Domenstic Partners can get benefits, why can't my girlfriend?

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: senseamp
Domestic partnership for straight people = Marriage.

I suspect that a domestic partnership is quite a bit easier to dissolve than a marriage. If so . . .

Not always so.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Mackie2k

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Mackie2k

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: senseamp
Domestic partnership for straight people = Marriage.

I think the OP is looking for the benefits of marriage without the possibility of a divorce or alimony.

Marriage is *not* what he is seeking.

Exactly.

Domestic Partners don't have to give 50% of their stuff away if they breakup. Washington is a "no fault" state, meaning if my Wife has an Orgy with 50 dudes and sell's my kid on EBAY I pretty much get @#$@'d in the divorce.

Marriage is where we are heading, but until then I'd like to provide her with benefits that I work for and earn everyday, no different then what a Domestic Partner gets.

And yeah, I agree, it would probably get me 15 minute of fame, but a pink slip too......in this economy, I don't like stirring the hornets nest.

Well shit, then maybe it should be legal for gays to marry.

Or maybe you can add an orgy clause to your prenup

Or choose your partner wisely.

Fine with me, let them marry. As it stands, they get 100% of the benefits of being married, without any of the consequences.

It's UNFAIR to people who choose to not get married to penalize them. Let me setup a domestic partnership wtih my GIRLFRIEND and I'd be set.

no?

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

So it's still OK to discriminate? I mean, it must not be discrimination since has an option - but perhaps he's not ready? There's lots of variables and you're pretty much acting like the people that GLBT community has been fighting against for years. Good job enabling.

how is it discrimination?

domestic partnership = gay community's alternative to marriage.

Actually a domestic partnership is the non-religious alternative to marriage.

No, civil marriage is the non-religous alternative to marriage.

The concept of marriage is religious whether it's in a civil court or by other means. You can enter a domestic partnership with someone of the opposite gender - but they don't receive benefits like your wife/husband would. But they should, and it shouldn't matter their gender.

 

[markgm]

Are you sure that domestic partner benefits apply only to same sex couples? Every company I've ever worked at do not restrict the benefits to same sex couples. In fact, I've heard multiple times that more straight people take advantage of civil unions and domestic partner benefits than gay folks do. Maybe your issue then is just a state issue but not a business one. In that case, talk to your lawmakers!

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

So it's still OK to discriminate? I mean, it must not be discrimination since has an option - but perhaps he's not ready? There's lots of variables and you're pretty much acting like the people that GLBT community has been fighting against for years. Good job enabling.

how is it discrimination?

domestic partnership = gay community's alternative to marriage.

Actually a domestic partnership is the non-religious alternative to marriage.

No, civil marriage is the non-religous alternative to marriage.

The concept of marriage is religious whether it's in a civil court or by other means. You can enter a domestic partnership with someone of the opposite gender - but they don't receive benefits like your wife/husband would. But they should, and it shouldn't matter their gender.

No. The concept of marriage is not religous.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: dougp

The concept of marriage is religious whether it's in a civil court or by other means.

no, not really.

if you don't want a religious marriage, you have the option of going to the JOP and calling it a day.

gays have no such alternative in states without legalized gay marriage.

 

[wheresmybacon]

My GF and I me the definition of domestic partners as described in my benefits package @ work. We filled out the documentation, got it notarized, etc etc. She now has my benifits.

I'm a guy, BTW.

I'm thinking this probably varies by State and/or company.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

gay people can get married

And you can gobble cock in the privacy of your own bedroom. Your point?

😉

:laugh:

 

[Deeko]

This concept of this thread is amusing, and whats even more amusing is the fact that people agree.

 

[Kelvrick]

Yea, its bullshit.

My company offers it to domestic partners, same sex or opposite sex, though. Got some ribbing after the human resources meeting when I asked if it has to be same sex to get the domestic partnership benefits, but ended up just doing a marriage so I could change options in the middle of the year.

 

[Mackie2k]

Originally posted by: markgm
Are you sure that domestic partner benefits apply only to same sex couples? Every company I've ever worked at do not restrict the benefits to same sex couples. In fact, I've heard multiple times that more straight people take advantage of civil unions and domestic partner benefits than gay folks do. Maybe your issue then is just a state issue but not a business one. In that case, talk to your lawmakers!

My understanding (and I'm asking HR to clarify) is that our company doesn't support opposite sex domestic partnerships, nor does our state (see law above).

Our company has been giving domestic partners (same sex) benefits for years, well before the 2007 law was put in place.

We'll see what they say, but I'm sure they will deny my request again.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

So it's still OK to discriminate? I mean, it must not be discrimination since has an option - but perhaps he's not ready? There's lots of variables and you're pretty much acting like the people that GLBT community has been fighting against for years. Good job enabling.

how is it discrimination?

domestic partnership = gay community's alternative to marriage.

Actually a domestic partnership is the non-religious alternative to marriage.

No, civil marriage is the non-religous alternative to marriage.

The concept of marriage is religious whether it's in a civil court or by other means. You can enter a domestic partnership with someone of the opposite gender - but they don't receive benefits like your wife/husband would. But they should, and it shouldn't matter their gender.

marriage existed long before religion

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

So it's still OK to discriminate? I mean, it must not be discrimination since has an option - but perhaps he's not ready? There's lots of variables and you're pretty much acting like the people that GLBT community has been fighting against for years. Good job enabling.

how is it discrimination?

domestic partnership = gay community's alternative to marriage.

Actually a domestic partnership is the non-religious alternative to marriage.

No, civil marriage is the non-religous alternative to marriage.

The concept of marriage is religious whether it's in a civil court or by other means. You can enter a domestic partnership with someone of the opposite gender - but they don't receive benefits like your wife/husband would. But they should, and it shouldn't matter their gender.

marriage existed long before religion

The idea of religion has been around a long time too ... I'd assume the thought of a domestic partnership was around long before marriage.

 

[umbrella39]

OMG you can't get your non-spouse covered? This is madness. If you want her covered, marry her.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Originally posted by: broon
My company offers this. A domestic partner can be same sex or opposite sex.

Yes - in California we have this right and I use it as my GF does not have dental offered through her work so she is on my dental plan.

Strage company that pays 100% of her premium but does not offer dental.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

So it's still OK to discriminate? I mean, it must not be discrimination since has an option - but perhaps he's not ready? There's lots of variables and you're pretty much acting like the people that GLBT community has been fighting against for years. Good job enabling.

how is it discrimination?

domestic partnership = gay community's alternative to marriage.

So seperate but equal is OK now?

It's not discrimination when you are discriminating against the majority!

 

[AreaCode707]

Government shouldn't regulate romantic relationships in any form. Each person should have the ability to grant legal benefits to one other adult that shares their residence and any children/dependents as currently defined by law.

Leave marriage to the churches and romance and sex to the consenting adult individuals.

<---- Christian

 

[nakedfrog]

Man, those gays have it so good!

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Man, those gays have it so good!

Fuckers always have the best clothes and hair. :|

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Anubis
marriage existed long before religion

Depends how you define either.

I suppose violently enforcing some sort of semi-ownership around the communal camp fire over the female you more or less forcibly impregnated might have come before deciding after a particularly horrendous thunderstorm that you needed to slit a small animal's throat and offer it to the larger and more powerful predator in the sky.

But I couldn't find any youtube videos offering conclusive documentation of this. 😉

 

[dmw16]

Originally posted by: loki8481
you have the right to get married, gay people don't?

Yep, this.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: senseamp
Domestic partnership for straight people = Marriage.

I suspect that a domestic partnership is quite a bit easier to dissolve than a marriage. If so, then it is not really fair to expect the OP to get married in order to be entitled to the same benefits as a same-sex couple that essentially has a piece of paper that says they're in the same arrangement that the OP currently has with his girlfriend.

I agree with this.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: broon
My company offers this. A domestic partner can be same sex or opposite sex.

And also with this (same for me).

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Originally posted by: broon
My company offers this. A domestic partner can be same sex or opposite sex.

And also with this (same for me).

Ditto and I know several people who have utilized this for their opposite sex SO.

 

[manlymatt83]

Oh freaking hell. Just let everyone get married and then there won't be issues. Why the heck is this still an issue.