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If Canada invaded New York........

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Lifer
........and took over Buffalo, would anyone here participate if Bush started handing out dynamite vests and saying "go up there and blow yourself and as many Canucks up as possible"?

Now I can just imagine all the jokes this may generate, but think about it....do you ever think you would feel strongly enough about something to strap on some TNT and take a bus full of women and children to glory with you?

I say this only to point out that we're not dealing with people even remotely like us in the Middle East....far from it. They are barbarians.

I keep seeing threads about how this side or that side should just stop the cycle of violence, it's whoever's fault, etc, etc.

It's time to realize that there is a lack of something over there that civilized people have. It's called brains. It's called not being in the Middle Ages anymore.
They are not as advanced as we are, obviously, so we need to stop treating them as if they are. You can call it sinking to their level if you want, but it's the only thing they understand.
The religious fanatics either need to be killed, jailed, sent to Cleveland, whatever it takes. Then we might be able to help the younger generations over there and stop the cycle.

Just my opinion.
 
Short answer: no
Long answer: Why would I support attacks against Canada? I plan to move there someday, and I don't want to arrive only to find the country in ruin. 🙂
 
Well, I think a lot of the actions in the Middle East are a result of their religious beliefs. We may think it's barbaric but as a primarily Christian nation we have a different belief system. I'm sure they think that Catholic confessionals are misguided as well. (poor comparision but you get the idea)

However, if Canada invaded New York, we would retaliate and end up occupying Canada entirely. We could double the size of the US within a few weeks. 😀

Of course, no one would really want to live in the new 51st state so we would probably use it for nuclear waste storage or something.
 
give me a break, our military bases in new york contain more hardware than canada has as a country.

besides, 90million americans have guns, i'm sure they find a tad of resistance. americans woulda have to use bombs, they'd use the vast amount of weapons that you can buy at your local wal-mart.
 
The cool about Canada invading the US is that we wouldn't have to bother our military about it, local police can handle it. 😀

And no, if President Bush handed me a dynamite vest and ordered me to hit civilian targets, I would defintely refuse. Why do suicide bombing when guerilla warfare is more effective anyway.
 
If I was being persecuted, didnt have a job and had low possibility of getting one, and truly believed in my cause for freedom, then yes I would do it. Only if I had no other way of fighting back, obviously. In the hypothetical we are assuming Canada has an overwhelming modern warfare advantage.

suicide bombings are their only way to dent modern armies in a practical sense, short of their 2 bombings of that "indestructable" tank. Terrorism is the *only* way they can wage "war". Now I dont support that, but if I thought my life, liberty and country were being threatened and I had no alternative, I'd do it as well. Not solely women and children...but I cant recall the palestinians targeting solely them either.

<cant believe Im replying to this idiotic flamebait>
 
So would they take hillary too? If so, I'd thank them. 🙂

Lucky, I don't think terrorism is the only choice available to the palestinians. Obviously though it hasn't worked.
 
Desperate people take desperate measures. The differences in culture, religion, awareness, environment, etc. all add up to a different mix than most of us can grab hold of and swallow.
 


<< So would they take hillary too? If so, I'd thank them. 🙂

Lucky, I don't think terrorism is the only choice available to the palestinians. Obviously though it hasn't worked. >>




so what do they have? All (known) incoming arms shipments are confiscated, and even those arms are used to go toe-to-toe with the isrealis. And it depends on your defintion of "hasnt worked". From what I read, its obviously made many people angry against the isreali gov't for their inability to stop it. 60 israelis killed in march alone.
 
A better analogy is the Mexicans moving into California. They are immigrating there and the Latino population will in the not too far distant future be larger than all other groups combined.

Are any Americans strapping on explosives or participating in riots or killing them because of that fact?

The Jews starting immigrating into Palestine long ago. The Arabs when they realized how many Jews were moving there, started riots and started the killing.

It was the British and then the U.N. that split the land because the Arabs could not live in peace with them.
 


<< And it depends on your defintion of "hasnt worked". >>



Well my definition would include something about tanks moving to make another large offensive against you. Terrorism is never the only option, and to suggest it as such is justifying it, which I can not do.
 
I (don't live in NY but anyhow I) wouldn't really care if i pay my taxes to Washington or some other capital (as long as they are low).
If the Canadians offer me a lower tax rate but the same benefits as the US gov I say "Go ahead! Invade us! Please!!!"
 


<< I say this only to point out that we're not dealing with people even remotely like us in the Middle East....far from it. They are barbarians.
...It's time to realize that there is a lack of something over there that civilized people have. It's called brains. It's called not being in the Middle Ages anymore.
They are not as advanced as we are, obviously, so we need to stop treating them as if they are. You can call it sinking to their level if you want, but it's the only thing they understand.
>>



Don't be so full of your self, it's obvious that your just ignorant of their culture or plight. I don't agree with violence from either side, but the Palestinians are being opressed, and they are desprate. Also, if you want to point out a single group such as the hamas, don't be a fool and call them "the middle east." The Israelis don't do suicide bombings, but they are agressors, want total domination, and kill more palestinians (including innocent ones) than the other way around. America is an economic power, but far from the most civilized culture. Were there is money involved in everything, morals fly out the door. We have bombed and killed more innocent people either directly or indirectly for our own benefit than any other nation, I call that uncivilized, barbaric, etc.
 
You're forgetting something. We have something to live for - thus none of us will strap TNT to ourselves and blow up stuff. Don't forget that even the trailer trash has something to live for -- i.e. unemployment, social security, winning a lottery, etc. Those people on the other hand have nothing. When you don't have anything and have no chances of getting anywhere in this life it's easier to make those kinda decissions.
 
First off, why would they take over Buffalo? There's nothing here. This city sucks.

No, no one would participate because most americans don't believe they'll be martyrs for doing it. There's no real religious differences between the US and Canada. It's not so much a matter of who is more advanced than who, but rather who is willing to kill and die for Allah.
 
<< We have bombed and killed more innocent people either directly or indirectly for our own benefit than any other nation>>

Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Saddam, Amin, Aideed(sp?) Milovisec(sp?) etc, etc, etc.

That means you're wrong, by the way.

<<The Israelis don't do suicide bombings, but they are agressors, want total domination, and kill more palestinians (including innocent ones) than the other way around>>

The Israelis are the defenders, not the aggressors. Name one time the Israelis started something rather than responded. Then name all the times they've tried even recently to reach out and stop the violence, asking for a cease-fire only to be answered by another suicide bomber.

<<You're forgetting something. We have something to live for - thus none of us will strap TNT to ourselves and blow up stuff.>>

Exactly my point. Which is why we need to stop treating them as if they have the same values that we do.....they don't.
 
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