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If British troops capture Bin Laden... they will hand him over IMMEDIATELY

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i wonder if the UK would feel the same way if a plane flew into big ben...or some other landmark with lots of ppl on their turf.
 


<< << EngineNr9 & Czar, two nuts in a sack. >>



Gonad the Barbarian- amazingly well said >>



Hehehehe. Three cheers for Gonad the Barbarian.
 
Czar and EngineNr9, just curious - if you don't think Bin Laden deserves to die, did the Nazis executed after the Nuremberg tribunals (gotta make sure I keep pointing out they were tribunals 😉) suffer from an injustice in your obviously enlightened opinions?
 
Do you guys really think that Osama is going to be captured alive? yea, right. They are going to put at least 4 clips of 50 cal into his head, and claim he was hit during a gun battle. You can quote me now: Osama Bin Laden will not stand trial in the US, he will not even make it out of his hiding place alive.
 


<< Any more questions?

Yeah, what gives you the right to call for someone's death? >>



It is my opinion that he should be killed. He was the mastermind behind an attack that killed thousands of Americans (and others), and has made it his mission to kill Americans where ever we are, for that I think he should be killed. Do you need to me keep going over it? What do you think should happen to him? Should we let him go? Or, maybe you would like to invite him to the Peoples Republic of Berkeley to have a nice dinner and talk about why he hates America?
 
This may be just BS, but, this place has been right a LOT here lately.............



<< Osama bin Laden plans a TV suicide that will trigger attacks on London, Paris and the US, the DAILY MIRROR of London is planning to report on Monday, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.... >>

 


<< Any more questions?

Yeah, what gives you the right to call for someone's death? >>





<< It's so easy to talk about killing people, from the comfort of your home. Your hatred accomplishes nothing other than making you less of a person and more of a dumb animal. >>



How embarrassingly naive your statements are showing you to be. Let's take the real example of a "dumb animal." When animals get rabies, they become a danger to both themselves and people, and and they are killed, for safety reasons. There is no "hatred" involved when we euthanize a rabid animal. A person like Osama Bin Laden may as well be a rabid wild animal (only OBL is far more cunning, far more dangerous, and just as untreatable and incorrigable), and sentencing such a being to death is not only entirely appropirate, but also the morally correct thing to do.

Being opposed to taking life under any circumstances, whether moral or not, is the sign of a shallow thinker. OBL is a threat to humanity, and as such, needs to be stopped. If it so comes to pass that it takes place by execution after a military tribunal, then so be it.
 
When animals get rabies, they become a danger to both themselves and people, and and they are killed, for safety reasons. There is no "hatred" involved when we euthanize a rabid animal. A person like Osama Bin Laden may as well be a rabid wild animal (only OBL is far more cunning, far more dangerous, and just as untreatable and incorrigable), and sentencing such a being to death is not only entirely appropirate, but also the morally correct thing to do.

Well that's been my point all along, although I wouldn't go as far as to say "morally correct". When we're dealing with a situation like this, it's important that we be pure of intention. The problem is too many people are interjecting themselves into the situation and making it a matter of hatred and vengance. What's more, these are people who aren't even involved in what's going on, they're just sitting in their house going "kill kill kill, he deserves to die! Oops, Friends is on now, gotta go". Tell me that's not repugnant, we should be capable of a little more than that. What purpose does any of this malice serve? It's just destructive, we need to come full circle and realize that we don't have the right to dictate these things, or to put ourselves on a moral high horse. At the same time we do have a right to protect our way of life, and that's all this really needs to be.
 
EngineNr9: Excellently said!

Who cares what happened at Nuremburg? I mean, at one time in history, people would have reacted to such an event by killing every Muslim in the country. Yet I haven't heard anyone suggest that. Times change and if Britain refuses to hand him over(assuming they would get him alive first) without some conditions, the US best keep any agreements it makes.
 


<< EngineNr9: Excellently said!

Who cares what happened at Nuremburg? I mean, at one time in history, people would have reacted to such an event by killing every Muslim in the country. Yet I haven't heard anyone suggest that. Times change and if Britain refuses to hand him over(assuming they would get him alive first) without some conditions, the US best keep any agreements it makes. >>




Well, it would look pretty bad for us if we didn't, but what do you really think would be done? In my opinion, nothing at all. There would be plenty of rhetoric, but very little or no action. They aren't going to impose economic sanctions or go to war with us. Even if they decided to stop turning over criminals to us after that, we could do the same to them.

In others words, there really isn't any absolute motivation for us to keep such an agreement. It would definitely bruise future relations between the UK and the US, and we might get a bad rep, but little else.

Just so you know, I don't advocate breaking such an agreement (if it were made), I'm more for the idea of never entering such an agreement and watching as the Labour party starts sweating bullets when they lose their electorate. 😉

The tories are less friendly toward the EU than the Labour Party, and would probably love to jump on an issue like this and demand that the UK turn bin Laden over to the US. I doubt the people of the UK have much sympathy for Osama, so they might just succeed. 😉
 
Awwww... what a beautiful, gentle sweet world people like Czar and EngineNr9 live in.
Too bad it isnt the world the rest of us lives in. The world where WWII was basically YESTERDAY in relation to history.
We are a species that HAS ALWAYS and WILL ALWAYS find a reason to kill and destroy each other.
We were killing each other since day Uno and we will be killing each other till the bitter end.

The trick is to kill those who want to kill you before they have the chance.
 
The Nuremberg Trials were a public relations move, not justice. They invented the crimes after they were committed, and charged the Nazis in a court that was also created after the crimes. The U.S. Constitution expressly forbids such actions. It was a perversion of the legal system. It would have been more appropriate, more just, to charge the Nazi b@stards in a millitary court and then execute them. Or hell, just to execute them as they were caught.

Even as a public relations move, they weren't entirely successful. They gave the Nazis a forum in which to spread their views. It made the conquered Germans extremely angry.

A Nuremberg Trial for Bin Laden wouldn't just be wrong, but it would be stupid.
 
Balt: True, the US could make an agreement then turn around and ignore it, but such an act would affect future dealings. How much, who knows, but one can not claim the moral high ground and act immorally at the same time without some consequence.

FrancesBeansRevenge: We choose the world we live in, if we didn't we'd all be serfs serving some Lord. Our society is the product of those who dared to dream, not those who accepted the way things were.
 


<< <<terrorism is the worlds problem, countries have been losing lives for a long time, its the worlds decision>>


I see your point, but I respectfully disagree. We are the ones who have finally (and too recently) decided to go in and get him. We have set up the entire stage, giving aid and training to the anti-Taliban forces, getting Pakistan to agree to the whole mess, and many other diplomatic and physical barriers. We have put the most work into this, because we are the ones who have been stung the most. Bin Laden belongs to us. >>



Bla..bla...bla... you are called TYPICAL American.... ~sigh....
 
<<Bla..bla...bla... you are called TYPICAL American.... ~sigh....>>


Bla..bla...blah... you are a TYPICAL American-bashing hypocrite. We are all just a bunch of egotistical capitalist swine, right? Maybe you should consider the fact that this conflict has hurt me more than it has hurt you? By the way, it's called the spoils of war, and it has existed for longer than you have. Apparently the Brits agree, judging from their sudden reversal.



Pocatello, nice find. Updating title...
 
I say we put Osama in the worst prison we can find... outside of the United States. 🙂 This way we get around the whole cruel and unusual punishment thing... After he is settled in his new home, we'll give all of his new "buddies" in that prison plenty of bacon grease to lube him up with. That way he'll be exceptionally unclean... and violated at the same time.

The best part is that we can put it all on the internet - LIVE - on a webcam pay site. The proceeds could go to the victims' families.

There are worse things than being executed - The UK will be begging us to execute him. The sad thing is, as cruel as this punishment would be, he deserves worse.
 
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