If all you ever do is move threads that are posted in the wrong forum...

[mugs]

Seems like the same people repeatedly post P&N threads in OT. Some do it even after participating in or starting a thread on the same topic in P&N. Sometimes the threads get locked, sometimes they don't. And it never stops. Have you considered the possibility that some people don't think the rules apply to them, so they need a little more encouragement to obey them?

 

[waggy]

personally i think they should rename P&N to just political news. Some news gets lost in the shuffle wich is why it gets posted in OT. At least then there can be a discussion about the news article.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy
personally i think they should rename P&N to just political news. Some news gets lost in the shuffle wich is why it gets posted in OT. At least then there can be a discussion about the news article.

Oh yeah, I've been saying that for years. Really, it's Politics & Political News. I like to see a serious discussion about a non-political news topic in Off Topic every once in a while. P&N clearly isn't for all news topics, otherwise a lot of non-serious, inconsequential topics from OT would have to be moved. Obviously P&N isn't the place to discuss Jon & Kate's divorce, but it is news...

No, what I'm talking about are the people who try to use OT as a sounding board for their political topics, because P&N doesn't get as much traffic. And it's not just threads that cross the line into P&N territory, there are some posters who find a political angle in just about any thread and post political crap in non-political threads.

I'm not calling anyone out by name, because that's against the rules. But you've seen what I'm talking about, and I think OT would be a better place without it.

And I'm not talking about the OP of the thread in OT today that Harvey kindly merged with the P&N thread, though that thread brought this problem to mind and prompted this thread.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
personally i think they should rename P&N to just political news. Some news gets lost in the shuffle wich is why it gets posted in OT. At least then there can be a discussion about the news article.

Oh yeah, I've been saying that for years. Really, it's Politics & Political News. I like to see a serious discussion about a non-political news topic in Off Topic every once in a while. P&N clearly isn't for all news topics, otherwise a lot of non-serious, inconsequential topics from OT would have to be moved. Obviously P&N isn't the place to discuss Jon & Kate's divorce, but it is news...

No, what I'm talking about are the people who try to use OT as a sounding board for their political topics, because P&N doesn't get as much traffic. And it's not just threads that cross the line into P&N territory, there are some posters who find a political angle in just about any thread and post political crap in non-political threads.

I'm not calling anyone out, because that's against the rules. But you've seen what I'm talking about, and I think OT would be a better place without it.

And I'm not talking about the OP of the thread in OT today that Harvey kindly merged with the P&N thread, though that thread brought this problem to mind and prompted this thread.

I believe you ... really.

People with just short of 80iq who try to insert politics into every nook and cranny get mighty tiresome after a while. This is why some react violently whenever political things are even brought up. Some need to have their nose rubbed in it to be convinced.

 

[olds]

Wrong forum like this?:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2313623&enterthread=y

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Wrong forum like this?:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2313623&enterthread=y

Whatcha mean?

It's in the proper forum.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Wrong forum like this?:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2313623&enterthread=y

Whatcha mean?

It's in the proper forum.

Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Wrong forum like this?:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2313623&enterthread=y

Whatcha mean?

It's in the proper forum.

Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

For a serious response to the OP.

OT is a catch all forum in some ways. As far as P&N and OT, bringing up something which is political or news isn't grounds for moving a thread. Rather it's how "hard core" it is. If something which has political overtones but is being dealt with in a lighthearted way, I'm going to let it slide.

Now if it descends into partisan bickering and I see it, it's moved.

At other times it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Cliffs- it all depends.

 

[DrPizza]

+1 what Hayabusa said.

All the time, I see people posting in newsy threads that P&N is for all news. It's not. "My girlfriend and I just got engaged!" would certainly fall under the definition of news, and is something that many newspapers regularly report, but not something (I hope) that people want to see posted in P&N.

And, many other items that meet the definition of news unarguably belong in OT - does anyone really want to see "I have a toenail fungus, pics" in P&N? (I don't want to see it in OT either!)

In between the two extremes, where P&N and OT meet there's going to be a gray area. Some moderators may lean one way a little & move a particular thread, others may just leave it.

Cliffs - it all depends.

 

[4537256]

IMO, this is a very finicky thing to complain about. If the subject title is enough to get you to click on it and read, then why would it matter if its wrong area or not?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: 4537256
IMO, this is a very finicky thing to complain about. If the subject title is enough to get you to click on it and read, then why would it matter if its wrong area or not?

We have the forums split up to prevent cluttering

 

[gorcorps]

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out your issue here exactly. So you basically don't like those who bring up politics in OT discussions? If that's so then I agree that it's really annoying, but it's also their freedom to say so. It's OT so pretty much anything goes regardless of how stupid it can be.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out your issue here exactly. So you basically don't like those who bring up politics in OT discussions? If that's so then I agree that it's really annoying, but it's also their freedom to say so. It's OT so pretty much anything goes regardless of how stupid it can be.

ot is the catchall, right? It's not motherboards. It's not networking. It's not console gaming. It's not the garage. It's not personal forum issues. See where this is leading? It's not politics and news.

Many in ot are quick to point out when a political subject is raised that "p&n -->". It seems that most are aware of and understand the issue. mugs has just decided to take it to a new level since there are a few members who continuously insist on inserting a political slant on things where it's not necessary at all and it's meant to be divisive. There's also a distinct possibility that these few are scared to take their opinions to p&n where they might actually be challenged and expected to defend their statements.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out your issue here exactly. So you basically don't like those who bring up politics in OT discussions? If that's so then I agree that it's really annoying, but it's also their freedom to say so. It's OT so pretty much anything goes regardless of how stupid it can be.

ot is the catchall, right? It's not motherboards. It's not networking. It's not console gaming. It's not the garage. It's not personal forum issues. See where this is leading? It's not politics and news.

Many in ot are quick to point out when a political subject is raised that "p&n -->". It seems that most are aware of and understand the issue. mugs has just decided to take it to a new level since there are a few members who continuously insist on inserting a political slant on things where it's not necessary at all and it's meant to be divisive. There's also a distinct possibility that these few are scared to take their opinions to p&n where they might actually be challenged and expected to defend their statements.

An interesting point of view. I like it.

Also, if I wanted to read the news, I'd go to P&N or CNN.com or something. OT is a playground and shouldn't have any semblance of threads that could belong in other forums.

That being said, we can't even have a freaking conversation without changing the topic EVEN ONCE without a certain mod locking threads right and left simply because an enjoyable conversation between several people that isn't rude or offensive in any way isn't the original topic. :roll: Even when the OP is one of those participating in the conversation. And, yet, stupid threads where the OP posts a retarded video from youtube with a halfwit eating his own sperm is allowed to stay or doesn't get noticed and political and software threads get ignored because the mod is too busy locking valid threads? :roll:

Edit: Warning heeded

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
All the time, I see people posting in newsy threads that P&N is for all news. It's not.

I understand that. I said that earlier in this thread, and I say it every time Nik complains about news being posted in OT. Those obviously aren't the posts I'm talking about here. I recall one thread where the topic was first posted in P&N, it was clearly a P&N topic, a certain poster posted in that P&N thread, and then he created a thread about the topic in OT. That's just blatant disregard for the rules. Whenever you see a thread in OT that really should have been posted in P&N, it's almost always posted by one of a few members. And they continue to do it because the only consequence is that eventually the thread may get moved.

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out your issue here exactly. So you basically don't like those who bring up politics in OT discussions? If that's so then I agree that it's really annoying, but it's also their freedom to say so. It's OT so pretty much anything goes regardless of how stupid it can be.

Yes. There are some people who somehow manage to find a political angle in every thread, no matter how unrelated to politics the topic is. P&N was created for a reason.

Originally posted by: Nik
Also, if I wanted to read the news, I'd go to P&N or CNN.com or something. OT is a playground and shouldn't have any semblance of threads that could belong in other forums.

Nik, the thing you don't seem to understand is that Politics is the more important word in the title of P&N, not News. If anything that appears on cnn.com is deemed to belong in P&N, then we'd miss out on a lot of good, lighthearted discussions in OT. There are a lot of threads in OT that are about the news and have no business being in P&N. All sports threads are news - do they belong in P&N? You go a bit overboard with complaining about threads that are posted in the right forum.




I'm actually surprised that this thread hasn't been locked yet, since the "resolution" is apparent (no action). I'm also surprised that the mods don't seem to recognize what I'm talking about. If you really haven't noticed that a few posters are responsible for most of the P&N topics/posts in OT, I could list some for you via PM.