If a ti 4200 has lasted me this long..

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
This is for Megatomic you wanna sell your ATI 9800 PRO. Let me know the price.

:shocked: Sorry but I can't sell until the 6600GT is available. I can't afford anything more right now.

 

[amheck]

HAHAHAAH. Too funny. Yuu are talking to yourself.

Good luck with the siftmod. My try was unsuccessful, along with a host of others. Worth a shot, I suppose, if you really want to go that way.

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Are you guys not listening what i am saying?

ATI 9800SE 380/680 For $144-149 with free HITMAN CONTRACTS, unlock 4 pipline with Omega Drivers, and here you go. You have a 9800PRO which can Overclock and kill 9800XT.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Are you guys not listening what i am saying?

ATI 9800SE 380/680 For $144-149 with free HITMAN CONTRACTS, unlock 4 pipline with Omega Drivers, and here you go. You have a 9800PRO which can Overclock and kill 9800XT.

The 9800SE softmod was good when the 9800 was the newest gen card and usually was priced around $225. Now that we have better cards out, there's no reason to risk softmodding older cards, when we'll have better price to performance choices available very shortly. Plus, don't be stupid. An overclocked unlocked 9800SE is not going to kill a 9800XT. I bet you won't get 10mhz past 9800XT speeds with 99% of the 9800SE cards out there. If you want to softmod something so badly, wait for the rivatuner script that will allow you to try softmodding vanilla 6800 cards into underclocked GTs.

 

[amheck]

Are you not listening to what I'm saying? :roll: Check out the hot deals forum to find out how to get a BBA 9800pro for $129.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Are you guys not listening what i am saying?

ATI 9800SE 380/680 For $144-149 with free HITMAN CONTRACTS, unlock 4 pipline with Omega Drivers, and here you go. You have a 9800PRO which can Overclock and kill 9800XT.

I love how people like to talk about how good the value on a softmoddable 9800 (SE to Pro, or 256 Pro to XT) card is because they think you can flash it and overclock it and then it might come close to the level of the card you are comparing it to (such as a 6600GT). But of course, this is completely based on the assumption that you are overclocking and modding the hell out of the 9800, but you'd leave the 6600GT at stock, which of course makes no sense. You have to take into account the o/c ability on the 6600GT (which is as of yet unknown) before you heap ungodly praise onto the SE for the same reason. Also, as rage said, you have an E-Machines...listen and learn before you spout nonsense.

 

[kamranziadar]

Hahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaa. Alright Alright looks like we have a bunch of Juniors here.

 

[kamranziadar]

Zobarstyle your picture explains. You don;t have any Brain. Check the Stats of my Emachine. It costs me $500. How can you beat that Nonsense.

 

[THUGSROOK]

you own an e-machine?

now thats funny!

 

[fsstrike]

Originally posted by: Dman877
GF4's are at least 3 years old, maybe 3.5. Definitely not 2 though.

GeForce 3 is approx 3 to 3.5 years old. GF4 is approx 2.5

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Zobarstyle your picture explains. You don;t have any Brain. Check the Stats of my Emachine. It costs me $500. How can you beat that Nonsense.

:roll:





I have to nominate you for "worst sig" in OT

Your advice is FOREVER suspect. :roll:

 

[ZobarStyl]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Zobarstyle your picture explains. You don;t have any Brain. Check the Stats of my Emachine. It costs me $500. How can you beat that Nonsense.

I;ll Having to Take your words for this, since you Are speaking of hte engrish so Well, I obvous have the noob And you are lordgod Of emachines.. Explains you Haved, much thanks,


But then again, chances are good that you simply haven't done your homework and believe your sub-par rig has any merit to it, even at 500 dollars. Given the sheer amount of information missing from your sig, such as the brand of your RAM and HDD and your completely missing motherboard, I'll venture so far as to say they sold you a POS and you don't even know it. Plus you got into this whole argument talking about you softmodding a 9800SE to Pro, but you use a vanilla 9600? How would you even know how the card performs when you don't even own one?

Here's a tip, build your own rig, then talk about it. You act like you know what's in your box, but unless you put it together you've nothing to back it up.

 

[whoiswes]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Zobarstyle your picture explains. You don;t have any Brain. Check the Stats of my Emachine. It costs me $500. How can you beat that Nonsense.

your grasp on the english language is about as developed as your knowledge of computers.

/won't somebody think of the grammar???
//i can beat that nonsense quite soundly, thank you.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl


Here's a tip, build your own rig, then talk about it. You act like you know what's in your box, but unless you put it together you've nothing to back it up.

ding, ding, ding...We Have a winner!

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Are you guys not listening what i am saying?

no, because you are a n00b who bought an emachine

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Hahahahahahahahaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaa. Alright Alright looks like we have a bunch of Juniors here.

talking about your willy?

 

[carlosd]

Ti 4200 is 2.5 years old, since it was released in march 2002.

 

[Marsumane]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Oh come on wait for 2 more months for 6600gt and what you will get 128bit. If i can wait for 2 months i will buy 6800gt then, it will be around $200 then. See Delorian did overcloked it very nicely

Well, this assumes (as many other posters have) that the 6600GT will be available -- that is, widely available, at MSRP, in AGP -- in 2 months. It might be. It might not.

BUT, if you can wait, it will certainly be a better deal than a 9800Pro at $200 (not that the 9800Pro at $200 is a terrible deal; it's just that you might get a card that's a bit faster for the same price in a few months). You might also consider that if the 6600GT does become available at $200, the price on the 9800Pro will likely drop.

If you're less interested in waiting, you might also want to look at a used 9700Pro or 9800 (the regular 9800, not the 9800SE), both of which are ~10% slower than the 9800Pro and running under $150 used (I just looked on Ebay; some 9700Pros have been going for as low as $120 recently, probably because a lot of people are upgrading from them and demand keeps falling. They're still about $140-150 in FS/FT here).

I agree with this guy on his comment on the release dates. THe deal is that computer hardware has launch dates that usually arent met right on schedule. This means that we really dont know for sure that the 6600 series will be out on time. Therefore, I never reccomend waiting too long for a piece of hardware. The only way it would be worth waiting, is if your current hardware suits u fine in games that are out today. If it doesnt, then set a date, and buy a new card by that date.

For instance, we all thought the 9800 series would drop in price once the newgen cards came out. We've seen a few rare deals here and there, but nothing of any significant drops. Those that waitied, are either still waiting, got in on a rare deal, or baught their card a couple months late. By the time the 6600gt comes out, it may be over $200 and the 9800p may not drop at all. It also may be 2 months late. In that case, 2 months late adds up to 1/3 of a yr from now. Then how long is your card being used for? Is it really worth the extra 2%-40% (rough estimates of my own) (also avg to be 20%) increase in games that the 6600gt provides considering you may get 16% less time out of it?
(considering u upgrade exactly 2 yrs from today)

What im saying is that theres tradeoffs and unknowns to waiting. Also there is always something better comming. ALWAYS. You should take this into consideration before waiting until this school yr is 1/2 over to hope for a better deal.

Oh and by the way, the 9800p will last you, if you arent picky about your res, aa, and af atleast the 2 yrs. I used a geforce 3 ti200 up until about 2 months ago. Thats 3-4 yr old archetecture. I could play anything on it.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Oh come on wait for 2 more months for 6600gt and what you will get 128bit. If i can wait for 2 months i will buy 6800gt then, it will be around $200 then. See Delorian did overcloked it very nicely

Well, this assumes (as many other posters have) that the 6600GT will be available -- that is, widely available, at MSRP, in AGP -- in 2 months. It might be. It might not.

BUT, if you can wait, it will certainly be a better deal than a 9800Pro at $200 (not that the 9800Pro at $200 is a terrible deal; it's just that you might get a card that's a bit faster for the same price in a few months). You might also consider that if the 6600GT does become available at $200, the price on the 9800Pro will likely drop.

If you're less interested in waiting, you might also want to look at a used 9700Pro or 9800 (the regular 9800, not the 9800SE), both of which are ~10% slower than the 9800Pro and running under $150 used (I just looked on Ebay; some 9700Pros have been going for as low as $120 recently, probably because a lot of people are upgrading from them and demand keeps falling. They're still about $140-150 in FS/FT here).

Although Im not into searching the American sites for price comparisons (Im from the UK), I think Matthias99's advice is sound. The 6600GT will last you longer than a 9800Pro (Dont get an SE please, softmodding is risky and wont always pay off) but if you cant wait for the 6600GT to come out in reasonable numbers and at a reasonable price (no-one could tell you for certain what the price will be or how many they have but we can make reasonable educated guesses) then the 9800Pro wont disappoint.

kamranziadar.... if you bought that e-machine yourself without a 70% or more money off voucher, then your credability has about as many holes as swiss cheese thats been attacked by a drill. Im suprised with your obviously indescribably low intelligence that you havent went and told the poor OP that he should get an e-machine because you can overclock them and softmod them to uber speeds that nothing else can match.

As has been said, not everyone wants to risk destroying a piece of expensive hardware just to get a little extra out of it. Softmodding is dangerous and has been proved to be as such many times, not to mention that not all cards are guarunteed to softmod. Being a student myself, I can appreciate the fact that people on low budgets usually strive to buy the best bang for their buck whether they dabble in overclocking or not. I currently have nothing overclocked but I know my Mobile Barton can hit 2.3ghz stable and my 9800Pro can exceed 9800XT speeds. If and when I need it, I'll be overclocking. Just dont assume everyone does or wants to.

I wish you all the luck VeZ, on finding and purchasing the right card for you.