If a place charges $1.00 for delivery do you have to pay tip?

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: Chrono I usually tip at restaurants at a constant 15% for good service. For pizza deliveries on the otherhand, I don't think that much because why should I give someone more than a dollar that drove 3-5 blocks to get to my house? Being in the delivery business, you've agreed to use your vehicle to make deliveries. I'm sure you're compensated by the restaurant itself usually per mile. I used to drive and do consulting jobs that would might be 5 miles to even 50 miles away, you don't see me complaining about driving there. My employer just reimburst me per mile. True, I didn't like it, but I didn't make a big fuss about the the amount he gave me per mile. I got 29 cents per mile, which isn't much at all.

I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.

I put almost 3k miles on my car in city driving every month, but I don't get paid per mile. I get paid 80 cents per pizza run, which could include 3 deliveries at one time. Now, here's the kicker, papa johns will only let me claim a certain number of miles per day (for IRS tax purposes) - saw I drive 120miles, they'll only claim 40.

That's impossible! How could they legally do this? If you drive that much then start deducting it as a business expense. .36/mile.

The hell if I know.

 

[Lucky]

well....that SUCKS.

 

[DT4K]

In answer to the original question:
You never "have" to give a tip.
But realize that the delivery charge does NOT go to the driver.
If the driver uses his own car, he either gets a per delivery charge, or mileage compensation. But that is designed to cover gas, insurance, wear and tear, etc.
So if you want the driver to get a tip, then give him one.

I usually give 2 or 3 dollars.

But to that guy who said delivering pizzas is hard work, stfu.
I did it for 2 years. It was one of the best / easiest jobs I've ever had.
Sure it gets busy sometimes and it sucks when you can't find a house or the customer is a jerk or nobody is home.
But overall, it's easy. Way easier and more fun than working in a restaurant.

 

[TuxDave]

If delivery fee was $1, sure I'll tip. But this freaking pizza place charged me $3.50 for delivery fee. The hell, so I gave him a $1 tip instead. ROAR.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

That's true. It's not something that can be helped by the driver, anyway.

Surprisingly, more delivery drivers that I've worked with are either college educated or currently attending then not. Make no mistake. . . As a group, we are neither stupid nor lazy.

One guy I work with has his 4 year degree, but he doesn't quit because he loves the flexibility and in order to start up in a new career that he would enjoy, he would need to take a significant pay cut for a while. AFAIK, he plans to deliver for as long as he can make good money at it. Somehow, he consistently takes more deliveries than anyone else. By the end of a busy night, he might have everybody beat by 15-20 deliveries (no kidding!). He works 4 nights (about 40 hours) per week and makes over $50,000 per year + medical and dental benefits (which we are lucky enough to be offered by the restaurant).

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?

COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.

it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

Or just possibly, it's late because the driver sat on his butt and picked his nose for awhile. Maybe he hooked up with his girlfriend. How would I know? And how is it my fault if he's late and I'm hungry? Poor service = poor tip. Doing otherwise would only reinforce the concept of Poor service = still get good tip ergo no reason to deliver good service. It's a TIP, not a RIGHT.

You need only look at your local post office to find a bunch of slow unmotivated workers. Maybe the delivery guy is a post office reject.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

the driver is a representative of the store. the store has told me I'd get my pie in 40 minutes. Driver takes an hour and 20 minutes. I tip less, yes, because he is still a representative of the store and the store screwed up by not getting me the pizza in time.

gives the delivery guy incentive not to lie on the phones and to get there on time.

no. the driver is paid as an independent contractor most of the time and they're working on an on-call basis. there is none of this 'incentive' BS going around the pizzeria from drivers to phone people. someone at the store fvcked up and now you wanna fvck over the driver for their mistake. think about what you're doing.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

In most cases I agree with you. But bad service is bad service, regardless. And your employees (waitresses/waiters/deliverers as well as your business in general) have to pay for it. You want a good healthy business, give good business to the customers (Get their food to them in a timely manner, be polite, ect ect).

Its not a matter of bashing the people who deliver the pizza, its a matter of sending a message back with that deliverer to the local pizza restraunt.

it doesn't happen.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: benchiu

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven? COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours. it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

I could really care less why it's late, if it's late, then I will tip less. It's their job to get it to you in a timely manner. 30 minutes is reasonable, 45 is not unless they have specifically told you it will take that long, or the weather is bad, etc. It's also why I rarely order delivery to begin with, I'd rather pick it up anyways because it's faster and my food is fresher.

if you could really care less then why don't you? stoppostingkthxbye

 

[Pepsi90919]

I realize it's not always a lie. But if you wait 60 minutes at a restraunt where it normally takes 15 to be served, do you not complain? tip less?

no, i get up and leave. i don't sit there plotting out my revenge trying to make some poor waitress' life even more stressful because i'm some dick who can't direct my hate through the proper channels.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?

COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.

it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

Or just possibly, it's late because the driver sat on his butt and picked his nose for awhile. Maybe he hooked up with his girlfriend. How would I know? And how is it my fault if he's late and I'm hungry? Poor service = poor tip. Doing otherwise would only reinforce the concept of Poor service = still get good tip ergo no reason to deliver good service. It's a TIP, not a RIGHT.

You need only look at your local post office to find a bunch of slow unmotivated workers. Maybe the delivery guy is a post office reject.

put down the crack pipe.

 

[CTrain]

I laugh at you people who claim delivering pizza is "hard work".
Seriously you can't expect the same kind of tips as servers in restaurants.

Even if most of you won't admited, dining out is an experience...its a form of entertainment.
Why do you think people who go out on a date always go to a "dinner and movie".
With that said, I expect the servers to provide me with good service and therefore deserving of a TIP.

Now imagine my lazy @ss at home wanting to get a pizza in my scruffy clothes.
I'm not in the same state of mind of tipping for service am I ???
My thinking is....heres a couple of bucks for your trouble now get out of my house.

I don't mean to offend you drivers but delivering food does not require the same skills as servers.

 

[Ness]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

If the guy is late, I tip less.

why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven? COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours. it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

the driver is a representative of the store. the store has told me I'd get my pie in 40 minutes. Driver takes an hour and 20 minutes. I tip less, yes, because he is still a representative of the store and the store screwed up by not getting me the pizza in time. gives the delivery guy incentive not to lie on the phones and to get there on time.

But it's not always a lie

Say you call up an order a pizza, at the same time, a business orders 35 pies. If their order goes in before yours, your order is almost guaranteed to be a little late. The person (phone girls at my store) taking orders might not have know that that order was going in, etc.

Should this situation occur, then the store should be responsible and call you back, stating that their might be a delay. No, they aren't obligated to, but we also aren't obligated to tip.

I've said this before last time, and apparently some people just don't get it, just because you are "only the driver" doesn't mean you don't represent the store as a whole. If you don't like the fact that your store is screwing it up for you, find a new store or bust their butts. Either way, it's not going to be my problem.

All of you people saying "I'll spit on your pizza" and whatnot, good for you, you have the mental equivlent of a 10 year old and your poor attitude reflects why you weren't tipped. Take the lesson and improve next time around.

A tip is earned, not expected.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Lucky


I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.

Solution: Go to school? Get a better job? I realize there are circumstances that may prevent this, and if you are already in school, then your making the right sacrifices to have to keep from doing this the rest of your life.

Every job I take in my profession will require this amount of miles put on my car monthly and .25 is sadly a common standard in my industry, as low as it is. I'm already out of school by a few years.

and kudos to the post above this.

 

[waggy]

when i was younger i worked at pizza hut as a delivery guy. I was getting paid $5.50 an hour. $.25 per delivery (so if i had 3 pizzas out i got $.75 even if i did it all on one trip).

It was an easy job! i drove around and got paid good money. i avaraged $3 per deliver. you figure i did about 3-5 deliverys an hour it adds up.

i tip 15% of the bill. I didnt work as hard as the girls in the store. most of my work as sitting in my car driving around town.

everyone saying how hard delivery is are nuts. it was far the best job for pay vs amount of work i did.

If i order from a place witha charge i do subtract some of it. say i order a pizza for $12 adn there is a $1.50 charge. i would usually tip $1+change (if above $.50) to $2. with a charge i would take $.50 off the tip because of the charge. It really depends on if i get the pizza when they said it would be here.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ness1469
A tip is earned, not expected.

I beg to differ a bit on this *guy*....you have someone do something for you, a tip is expected unless the company states tips are not wanted.

If you don't want to tip do it yourself.

Now, if the service is fuxored or ruins your experience then a tip of $0 should be left...it lets the slacker know he/she is not riding behind the free meal truck.

I am not wealthy by any means (except the useless crap in my head), but I tip well and even better when service is great. I am an observant individual, I don't expect everyone to be, but when my server starts reading my mind and the minds of those in my party I appreciate it.

And again...it doesn't really matter if you are ordering lobster tails or a pizza, there is a minimum amount of service a delivery entails...if you are ordering large that driver may only be able to carry just your order (I averaged about 3 for each trip, although they weren't always in a straight path).....so tip based on that.

Also if you *KNOW* you are in the boonies and the restaurant is making deliveries to you (I hated the far orders, I got double delivery money ($1), but it took up to 30 mins sometimes and usually terrible wear on my car (standing water, shellrock roads, potholes, etc).....

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ness1469
A tip is earned, not expected.

I beg to differ a bit on this *guy*....you have someone do something for you, a tip is expected unless the company states tips are not wanted.

If you don't want to tip do it yourself.

Now, if the service is fuxored or ruins your experience then a tip of $0 should be left...it lets the slacker know he/she is not riding behind the free meal truck.

I am not wealthy by any means (except the useless crap in my head), but I tip well and even better when service is great. I am an observant individual, I don't expect everyone to be, but when my server starts reading my mind and the minds of those in my party I appreciate it.

And again...it doesn't really matter if you are ordering lobster tails or a pizza, there is a minimum amount of service a delivery entails...if you are ordering large that driver may only be able to carry just your order (I averaged about 3 for each trip, although they weren't always in a straight path).....so tip based on that.

Also if you *KNOW* you are in the boonies and the restaurant is making deliveries to you (I hated the far orders, I got double delivery money ($1), but it took up to 30 mins sometimes and usually terrible wear on my car (standing water, shellrock roads, potholes, etc).....

uhm. a tip is always optional.

sure people have come to expect one all the time. but its not a case if you dont want to do it yourself. THEY are paid to do that job. a tip something based on good service.

If they expect a tip then they dont always try hard to serve people.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
If the order is over 20 bucks, leave 4.

20% tip for delivery?! That's absurd. 20% is a very high tip. I tip a flat 10% on delivery orders unless something's really different from normal. If the delivery arrives cold, I don't tip at all. If it arrives really fast, I'll tip a little more.

Tipping is not mandatory. Tipping is supposed to be a reward for exceptional service. I generally tip about 10% out of charity for average service, but I don't consider it anything other than charity. I certainly do not feel obligated to tip when I get poor service. I was at a restaurant with some friends once and the waitress managed to mess up two of the three orders and also to get each of the separate cheques wrong. It wasn't even busy in the restaurant. I left no tip and my friends went nuts. It's just sad.

ZV

 

[alkemyst]

in a service industry a tip is expected...it's their wage .... in a non-service industry phone guy, cable guy, etc tips are extra.

Your waiter makes usually less than half minimum wage....if he was busting his rear to give you extraordinary service for that 15% then the other 10 tables he is handling suffer and he get's 15% of a $40 bill for an hour (the other tables did not tip since they got average performance) + his $2-$3 bux per hour. Woo Hoo! I made $9 this hour....since as a waiter I work usually 4-6 hours a day, that will have me set for life!!!!

Sure in a high star restaurant I have my own private waiter (or two)....but the average Chili's/Bennigan's/Outback/Red Lobster/etc waiter/ess is waiting on 10+ tables at a time.

You go though, Daddy Warbucks.

 

[Ryan]

I'm honestly contemplating starting a website called the Pizza Diaries, kinda like a blog for my pizza life, including a breakdown of my tips. That way, you people can see how many people tip higher or lower then you do....

Maybe that'll be my project for this week.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
in a service industry a tip is expected...it's their wage .... in a non-service industry phone guy, cable guy, etc tips are extra.

You waiter makes usually less than half minimum wage....if he was busting his rear to give you extraordinary service for that 15% then the other 10 tables he is handling suffer and he get's 15% of a $40 bill for an hour + his $2-$3 bux per hour.

Sure in a high star restaurant I have my own private waiter (or two)....but the average Chili's/Bennigan's/Outback/Red Lobster/etc waiter/ess is waiting on 10+ tables a night.

You go though, Daddy Warbucks.

They make minimum wage. If their tips plus base pay don't add up to minimu wage, their employer is required by law to make up the difference for that pay period. So it's not as though they would only make $3 per hour is no-one tipped them. That's just a common fallacy among people who are too busy being "socially aware" to have a clue. They may well be dis-satisfied with their position and their place, but that's not my problem.

ZV

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
put down the crack pipe.

Looks like I hit a nerve. Failed the Post Office exam, did ya?

Hey, I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of people who aren't "go-getters" like you. Some of them just might wind up as delivery guys. So quit acting like you have personal knowledge of every delivery person in the world.

BTW, I always ask the restaurant how long it will take for them to deliver, and they almost always overestimate the time. Smart move on their part, since no one will complain if they're told "1 hour" and the food shows up in 30 minutes, whereas if they said "30 minutes" and the food showed up an hour later, lots of people would be mad.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
I'm honestly contemplating starting a website called the Pizza Diaries, kinda like a blog for my pizza life, including a breakdown of my tips. That way, you people can see how many people tip higher or lower then you do....

Maybe that'll be my project for this week.

Be sure to collect "demographics." You know what I mean.

I was rocking last night! (Well, I only took 37 deliveries, but that's OK, everybody else who worked the entire shift got between 29 and 33 deliveries, so I still rocked!) I got two tips for more than $10, a couple of $7-8 buckers, and many more for around $5.

My tips (NOT including delivery commission) averaged out to $4 per delivery.

All you cheap-asses owe thanks to the tippers, because THEY keep the delivery people coming in to work every day, delivering hot prepared food INTO THE HOMES AND HOTEL ROOMS of every customer who requests our services.

BTW, I don't work for Domino's, Pizza Hut, or Papa John's.

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: rbloedow
I'm honestly contemplating starting a website called the Pizza Diaries, kinda like a blog for my pizza life, including a breakdown of my tips. That way, you people can see how many people tip higher or lower then you do....

Maybe that'll be my project for this week.

Be sure to collect "demographics." You know what I mean.

I was rocking last night! (Well, I only took 37 deliveries, but that's OK, everybody else who worked the entire shift got between 29 and 33 deliveries, so I still rocked!) I got two tips for more than $10, a couple of $7-8 buckers, and many more for around $5.

My tips (NOT including delivery commission) averaged out to $4 per delivery.

All you cheap-asses owe thanks to the tippers, because THEY keep the delivery people coming in to work every day, delivering hot prepared food INTO THE HOMES AND HOTEL ROOMS of every customer who requests our services.

BTW, I don't work for Domino's, Pizza Hut, or Papa John's.

So the real question is, what were you delivering ? Pizza ? What was the average price of each delivery (so we can get a %)? Only other pizza chains I can think of are gumby's pizza, donatos pizza, litte caesars (no delivery afaik)...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: alkemyst
in a service industry a tip is expected...it's their wage .... in a non-service industry phone guy, cable guy, etc tips are extra.

You waiter makes usually less than half minimum wage....if he was busting his rear to give you extraordinary service for that 15% then the other 10 tables he is handling suffer and he get's 15% of a $40 bill for an hour + his $2-$3 bux per hour.

Sure in a high star restaurant I have my own private waiter (or two)....but the average Chili's/Bennigan's/Outback/Red Lobster/etc waiter/ess is waiting on 10+ tables a night.

You go though, Daddy Warbucks.

They make minimum wage. If their tips plus base pay don't add up to minimu wage, their employer is required by law to make up the difference for that pay period. So it's not as though they would only make $3 per hour is no-one tipped them. That's just a common fallacy among people who are too busy being "socially aware" to have a clue. They may well be dis-satisfied with their position and their place, but that's not my problem.

ZV

Do you have a copy of the law that requires an employer to "make up the difference"? I am banking you are right, however, I don't see why an employer should make up the difference esp if no one decided to tip.

I am not in the service industry so I am curious.

Besides it all is minium wage really fair?